Announcement

Collapse

TGC Tour - Congratulations!

Congrats to @Keither5150 winning the TGC 2016/2017 Winter Tour - Sony Open in Hawaii!

Join this weeks TGC 2016/2017 Winter Tour - Careerbuilder Challenge with 2 rounds at The PGA West(Palmer)[Saturday] : http://golfsimulatorforum.com/forum/...lder-challenge
See more
See less

Ernest Sports ES16 - New Camera Based LM

Collapse
This is a sticky topic.
X
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • I loaded a new firmware today and hit a ton of balls in the app. Then I switched to TGC and played an awesome course called Mississaugua G&CC. You guys should check it out. Apparently they've had the second most Canadian Opens.

    I played all 18 with the ES16 and was very very impressed. I expected I'd struggle getting used to it and score high but it was not the case. I had a couple of 7 foot putts, a few 7 yard chips, bunker shots and all. In 18 holes I had I think 2 or 3 no reads which I think was due to ball placement, I chip that went 4 feet right of where I'm sure I hit it, 1 putt that went 2 degrees right and one five iron that went too far. The five iron went 210 in the air from heavy rough. Not likely. For 18 holes, that was very impressive. I love that the club data is in the post shot screen as well. My only complaint is having to place the ball on a spot the size of a pin with logo upright and facing the device to get it to accept the location. It really could use a laser pointer. All in all I'd say it's accuracy is on par with Skytrak except it has club data.

    People have spoken about the GC2 having draw bias. I'm one of them. I figured it was being in doors but I'm not sure now. The ES16 has no draw bias. My normal flight is close to straight. It was with the ES but I draw the gc2. Strange. It might be how I'm aligning on the gc2.
    Last edited by mthunt; 01-12-2017, 03:01 AM.

    Comment


    • mthunt
      mthunt commented
      Editing a comment
      You could epoxy a $5.00 laser pointer to this in a minute.

    • Baller
      Baller commented
      Editing a comment
      Have you been getting email notifications for the updates? I haven't gotten one of those since my exchange unit and thinking something went wrong because of that. I've been updating, but don't have anything to tell me what's changed.

    • mthunt
      mthunt commented
      Editing a comment
      I plugged it in yesterday and it updated. I'm not on an email list.

  • It sounds live this device is going to be a winner. Plus much cheaper than gc2 as well. Or the new gcq.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    GC2 Eastern Time Zone, USA

    Comment


    • Great news on the new update mthunt. Keep us posted.

      Comment


      • Hi Guys! I've been reading through many of these 40 pages about the ES16 trying to decipher if the face angle and path are derived/calculated or measured. I've read through many of the pages and it's hard to keep all of the firmware versions straight. Can someone let me know if it's measured or derived/calculated? Is this any better than the Skytrak calculation/derivation/guess? Thanks! Appreciate it!

        Comment


        • Lefty13
          Lefty13 commented
          Editing a comment
          Ok... I just read on page 37 it's currently calculated/derived. I'm a little uneasy about this but wondering if the club data is that much better than the Skytrak... I'm assuming it is as I've read lots of good feedback here recently but there was lots of concern in the beginning. Will the data be useful and real enough to help improve my game? Thanks again everyone!!

      • Skytrak only captures and shows ball data. GC@ and Skytrak with TGC shows club data but it's calculated but not accurate.

        ES16 has the following club data points and what I believe is calculated. I can say that it seems accurate to me.

        club face (calculated which is the same as trackman)
        club path (I believe still calculated but changing)
        club head speed (Measured)
        aoa (Measured I believe)
        face to path (Calculated which is the same as Trackman)
        smash factor (Measured)

        plus all ball data which is all measured.

        If someone knows for certain, let me know.


        Comment


        • Lefty13
          Lefty13 commented
          Editing a comment
          Thanks MTHunt! Really appreciate the info today and all of the info already posted here! Same goes to Bubba and the rest of you folks!

          While I'm not expecting Trackman or GC2 accuracy, are people thinking it's helpful enough to improve and not just a gimmick? My initial impression was that it was all measured so was shocked to read it's calculated; however, since MTHunt mentioned trackman does the same thing, I feel much better. I'm a happy Skytrak owner who really wishes he had accurate club face data. I was thinking the ES16 might give me that information so was going to make the jump up to it. I think it sounds like it's worth the move but this is a tough decision!

        • Baller
          Baller commented
          Editing a comment
          Yes, all ball data is measured; aoa is measured, and uses both Doppler and camera so should be very accurate and seems so. Therefore, it also has the ability to read the club data, which hopefully comes down the line, whereas Trackman only uses Doppler.

          But key word in that last part is... hopefully! Either way, I'm happy with my purchase. I like the size, the weight, that software features, the portability, the battery life... I think it's well worth the price.

        • Lefty13
          Lefty13 commented
          Editing a comment
          Thanks Baller! It sounds like most people feel it's a noticeable upgrade over the ST... A buddy of mine has one and might sell it... I'm debating buying it from him but it's going to probably cost me a couple of grand to upgrade after II sell my ST and then pay him the difference. It's a bit hard paying that amount so I'm trying to make sure it's a good upgrade and I'm going to get some extra value for the difference in the price.

      • So tempting. So tempting.

        Comment

        Working...
        X