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  • Review and shank protection question

    I've been using the ES Tour Plus since just before Thanksgiving and I think a lot of people are missing out. This is not nearly as finicky as people have said. I get almost zero no reads, and less than 1/4 no spin reads on the driver. Almost never happens with anything other than driver. The ball being used is key. A year ago I was at a state park course that was mowing the deep ravine that had about 175 yard forced carry from the back tees on a par 3. I picked up around 150 balls of all makes. After sorting through these and using the advice that the ES liked bold straight logos it became pretty clear that Pinnacles were the ball to use. Bought some new, the monitor recognizes them almost immediately (as in before I can get my hand out of the way) and no misreads.

    The club data appears to be calculated relatively accurately, the ball data is spot on. As noted, the monitor will not read fat shots. This comes into play the most for me on chips. Instead of taking a weird swing I use these: https://www.amazon.com/Rubber-Holder.../dp/B07BHWNKBL and put the chip shots on a lie that is not as tight as can be which makes it so much easier to pick clean.

    I picked this up for $1795 at Best Buy, no subscription. Only needs 8 feet out the front. I am very very happy with this unit. This would be a 4/5 star review overall and 6/5 given the price point. I have used a Trackman quite a bit over the last 6 months so I am pretty spoiled and know what my numbers should be pretty dang well. But playing 2 or 3 rounds a day in the simulator for the last month I could not be more satisfied given the fact I paid 1/10 the price of a Trackman. Good thing since with all those rounds my hands are getting worn out and I am going to have to buy gloves for both hands.

    The only issue I have is the vulnerability of the unit since it sits pretty close and slightly out front of the ball. A severe shank can hit the unit. You'd think no one could ever hit that bad, but never say never. The good news is this thing isn't made out of egg shells and has taken a couple blows with no damage. So I am trying to make some protection for the unit, especially if someone other than me were to play. I have proven that it will read the ball through a pane of Lexan but I am curious if having a piece in front of the unit will make the microphone not work as well leading to mis/no reads. I am sure I can make some protection with no nails to not mess with the radar, just curious if anyone else has created a protective "case" for their unit and how they did it.

  • #2
    I would be careful with hitting all chip shots off a rubber tee... that will screw up your short game real fast, in my opinion! Is that the only way to get around it? Other than that, the review sounds better than any other I've heard... but without a custom made FMJ (full metal jacket) is it really better to consider it? SkyTrak makes a FMJ for their units that you can buy and fits perfectly.

    Let us know if you find a FMJ for your ES Tour Plus?

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    • oakleyj
      oakleyj commented
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      I have almost no complaints about the unit. Best Buy allows returns on Xmas purchases until mid-January. So I will play the snot out of it for the next couple weeks while I am off (for research of course) and see what I think.

      The biggest weakness of the ES is the sound activation for the shot recording. If you hit fat, no read. The rubber tee I have referenced above holds a wood tee. So the chip shots are hit off the barest nub of a wood tee. With the bounce on sand and lob wedges it is tough to get a completely clean strike on a chip forward in your stance. Just like you wouldn't hit a lob wedge off bare dirt forward in your stance, you hit those shots when they are sitting up even if just a little bit. The ultra short tee actually has let me make a more real swing instead of doing weird stuff to nip it clean.

      I'm pretty sure I have a design for the bulletproof jacket that will work. The really rough prototype was working last night, but needs refined to make it pretty.

  • #3
    I think the main issues are that it's barely cheaper than Mevo+ but is more finicky, can't be used outdoors, has fewer software options, and has both shot delay and space/noise requirements (the weakest part of Skytrak and Mevo, respectively).

    All that being said, it's a solid unit for the price and I'm glad you're enjoying yours. Whatever protection method you come up with will have to be non-metallic to avoid interfering with the four Doppler radars and you should probably confirm that the cameras take similar readings with and without the lexan in place if you haven't done this already. Maybe putting the unit in chip mode to turn off the radar and hitting a ton of easily reproducible shots to compare data sets would be a good way to start?

    Good luck.

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    • oakleyj
      oakleyj commented
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      Mevo+ wasn't a consideration due to space restrictions. GC Quad wasn't a consideration due to not hitting the lottery yet.

      The "case" will be Lexan and wood that is pegged together. So no nails or screws at all. I've got all of $25 invested in the protection so far, so not like I am in deep with it. The real reason I want the protection is so the wife can swing away without fear. That hesitation that you will break something ruins your swing in the simulator.

      I have the next two weeks off so we'll see what I come up with.

    • oakleyj
      oakleyj commented
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      After more experimentation I had to give up on the Lexan protection. It increased the number of no reads on spin and for me the tradeoff wasn't worth it. If my wife toes one into the unit and breaks it she'll just have to cough up the money to get it fixed.

  • #4
    I chip off my mat with no issues. Good luck with a protective case. Keep us posted with your results.

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    • oakleyj
      oakleyj commented
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      Yeah, I just had to get more used to it.

  • #5
    Space was my issue too. I really liked my ES tour plus. It's very reliable and consistent with the game I play. It really is hard however to have no reads on chunked shots specifically with my 3 wood off the deck. It's something I'm trying to fix in my swing now. I do agree there are many positive things I like about the ES 16 tour Plus. Primarily, it gives good results and very realistic play.

    What amazes me is how accurate the putting is in tgc2019 and how challenging it is in E6. I never shank the ball into my unit, but I did strike the side and broke the LCD display when a club slipped out of my hand while practicing during the warm-up session. I have yet to send it back for repairs. The unit is working fantastically otherwise.
    Last edited by Chuck; 12-27-2021, 12:47 AM.
    Courses Created: Cresent Hill KY (L)
    Cherokee Park KY (L) 9
    Seneca GC KY (L) 18

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