TGC Penalty System Explained

[Maverick]

TGC Penalties explained:
Light Rough, Rough, and fairway sand are about 1 club or about 7% loss of distance. Heavy rough is about 2 clubs or about 13% loss of distance . Green side bunkers are about 50%. Bunkers 50 yards or less from green will have 50% penalty applied. Great than 50 will have 7% penalty applied.
Ignore all displayed lie penalties in the game.

TGC penalty settings(when TGC is enabled):

GC2 users:
Set all penalties sliders in GSX to default of zero.

ProTee system users:
In ProTee Interface, set green bunker penalty to 40 and all other penalties to zero.

[Vincent_Vega]

Maybe if we left well enough alone, we could avoid a new topic with heated discussions about whether the penalties are set to the right percentage, whether they really work like that, yada, yada, yada...

Didn't they just quote the true numbers?

Heated? Haha. Seems like a bit of a stretch.

[ForeLeft]

I think penalties are like IRL. You can guess it will be x%, but never know. I like that. If the game made it so it was always fixed, say 20%, I can always club up accordingly and then there is really no penalty and no advantage of hitting the fairway.

[aja]

Maybe if we left well enough alone, we could avoid a new topic with heated discussions about whether the penalties are set to the right percentage, whether they really work like that, yada, yada, yada...

Didn't they just quote the true numbers?

[ProTee United]

There are no true numbers. These are all physics decrease. Its all relative. I gave you the approx percentage.
I already said above green side ~20%, heave rough ~6% and the rest ~3%. There is nothing else.

[Mike80]

ProTee United Are the numbers you mentioned above Distance Decrease or Physics Decrease or both combined? You mentioned two penalties with Distance and Physics decrease.

Will you provide the Distance Decrease and Physics Decrease for each lie and green side bunkers?

Just want to know the true numbers. Thanks!!!!

[Mike80]

ProTee United Thanks! Sorry to bug you again on this. Are the numbers you mentioned above Distance Decrease or Physics Decrease or both combined? You mentioned two penalties with Distance and Physics decrease.

Will you elaborate on the numbers stated above with Distance Decrease and Physics Decrease.

Glad to know the green side bunker is 40 or less yards and not the 50 or less previously stated in this thread. Because I assumed the 50 and it messed my shot up thinking the penalty was more than what it really was.

Just want to know the true numbers. Thanks!!!!

[ProTee United]

I looked this up. Currently:

HeavyRough ~6%
The rest ~3%
Greens side bunker < 40y ~20%

[Mike80]

ProTee United Can you confirm the exact distance for a green side bunker. In this thread they stated 50 yards or less. But in my test the 50 yard bunker acted like a normal fairway bunker with penalty.

Please confirm the exact yardage so I know when to expect the higher penalty.

Also if you can please state the distance decrease and physics decrease for the following:
Light Rough
Rough
Heavy Rough
Bunker 50 yards or more
Bunker 49 yards or less

I may not of the bunker distance correct above so indicate the correct distances.

Thanks! I think this will help everyone understand when they have a higher or lower penalty.

[ProTee United]

Its not a 50% or 7% penalty. Its more a 20% and 3% "physics" decrease, which might result in a 50% or 7% yardage loss, but is depending on several variables like backspin, ball speed and launch angle.

TGC recognizes several course surfaces. Unfortunately it does not know the difference between a fairway bunker and green side bunker. Bunkers within a certain distance from the flag we treat as green side bunkers which have the higher penalty.

[Mike80]

Can someone confirm the bunker 50 yards or less penalty.

I was in the bunker exactly 50 yards. So at 50% loss I would have to hit a 75 yard shot. So I hit my 75 yard shot and it went over the green about 75 yards. So I was thinking maybe the 50% penalty is really 49 yards or less. Because I hit a mulligan and now a 50 yard bunker shot with 7% penalty would have to hit a 53 yard shot. So I hit it like 53 yards and it was perfect distance.

So I'm thinking below is correct:

Please confirm that a bunker shot 49 or less yards is 50% penalty.

Please confirm that a bunker shot 50 or more yards is 7% penalty.

[Cklguy2013]

Do the penalty settings above still apply for Protee users?

[drewpac]

Just saw zmaxs interface settings (alt e) and noticed the 40 on greenside bunkers...ill have to check those settings tomorrow...so if I understand correctly, I need to edit the penalty in alt e and leave the sliders alone?

[drewpac]

I never touched the sliders for bunkers, rough, etc and they are all the way to the left.

[Bubba22]

Did you set greenside bunkers to 40?

[drewpac]

To get these penalty settings do I need to adjust the sliders in the protee interface or is it supposed to adjust automatically? When I hit out of a greenside bunker I get crazy fliers. I barely hit a flop shot and it goes 40 yards. Thx