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  • New LiDAR Course, Montauk Downs State Park Golf Course, New York

    Hi All,

    I have just published a new LiDAR course, Montauk Downs State Park Golf Course, under the name "Montauk Downs - LiDAR". This course is located at the very tip of Long Island in NY, was originally opened in 1927, and was redesigned in 1968 by Robert Trent Jones Sr. with the assistance of his son Rees.

    I have never played here myself but designed it by request from a fellow enthusiast of TGC2019 who wanted to be able to play on his local course. It was a fun course to design, playtest, and eventually play on the sim for real. Since I hadn't played this course before, I had to rely on photos and videos.

    There are 4 sets of tees and 4 pin positions. Please give it a play if you have a chance and leave comments. As always, any advice is appreciated.

    By the way, the published course is set to 12:00 noon although the pictures below are set to a different time.

    Cheers,

    Stephen

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    Japan
    Tochigigaoka Golf Club
    Konosu Country Club (L)
    Olympic Country Club R&H
    Olympic Country Club F&R
    Olympic Country Club H&F
    Olympic National East (L)
    Taiheiyo GC - Gotemba
    Shonan Seaside CC

    US
    Torrey Pines North Course - L
    Torrey Pines South Course - L
    Scarsdale Golf Club (L) - NY
    Montauk Downs - LiDAR - NY
    Golf Club Fossil Creek L - TX
    The Tribute (LiDAR) - TX
    Boca Raton Resort & C (L) - FL
    RB GC & Resort v2 (L) - TX
    River Creek Park Golf Club (L) - TX

    Others:
    Bali National Golf Club 3

  • #2
    sirish19 Impressive! Nice touches with the houses and animals... I have to ask, is that a screened practice range next to one hole? Was that designed as part of the course, or as the practice range for the course?

    Do you know if there is any way to design a custom practice range for a course and have it show up as Practice to use as a range? If you design it as the range for the course does it ever show up next to or on the course (where those playing the course can see it)?

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    • #3
      I drove 4hrs alone at midnight to play Montauk downs when I was living in New york city 25yrs ago..
      I don't remember much about the course now, but will play this course and maybe will remember some holes.
      I will post my stream here.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Brettster View Post
        sirish19 Impressive! Nice touches with the houses and animals... I have to ask, is that a screened practice range next to one hole? Was that designed as part of the course, or as the practice range for the course?

        Do you know if there is any way to design a custom practice range for a course and have it show up as Practice to use as a range? If you design it as the range for the course does it ever show up next to or on the course (where those playing the course can see it)?
        Hi Brettster, yes, this wire fence is for the driving range. In real life, there is big netting there and it seems to be part of the character of two of the holes that it separates. That is just for decoration (although the fence should keep the balls from going OB onto the driving range. I am not exactly sure how to build a practice range as you are not actually designing a course with holes.
        Japan
        Tochigigaoka Golf Club
        Konosu Country Club (L)
        Olympic Country Club R&H
        Olympic Country Club F&R
        Olympic Country Club H&F
        Olympic National East (L)
        Taiheiyo GC - Gotemba
        Shonan Seaside CC

        US
        Torrey Pines North Course - L
        Torrey Pines South Course - L
        Scarsdale Golf Club (L) - NY
        Montauk Downs - LiDAR - NY
        Golf Club Fossil Creek L - TX
        The Tribute (LiDAR) - TX
        Boca Raton Resort & C (L) - FL
        RB GC & Resort v2 (L) - TX
        River Creek Park Golf Club (L) - TX

        Others:
        Bali National Golf Club 3

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        • #5
          I have played this 2-3 times now and Stephen did an amazing job putting this thing together. It's such an awesome public course experience, and I am so thrilled that I can play this from my home sim anytime i want. Thanks so much Scott for your amazing attention to detail here!
          Last edited by nickfisher47; 01-07-2021, 12:14 AM.
          My Published Course:
          Green Harbor (L) - MA, Marshfield, MA
          Stow Acres North (L) - MA, Stow MA

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          • #6
            Thanks guys. I realized that the photos were a bit too dark so I put together a little better presentation of the course here.

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            Japan
            Tochigigaoka Golf Club
            Konosu Country Club (L)
            Olympic Country Club R&H
            Olympic Country Club F&R
            Olympic Country Club H&F
            Olympic National East (L)
            Taiheiyo GC - Gotemba
            Shonan Seaside CC

            US
            Torrey Pines North Course - L
            Torrey Pines South Course - L
            Scarsdale Golf Club (L) - NY
            Montauk Downs - LiDAR - NY
            Golf Club Fossil Creek L - TX
            The Tribute (LiDAR) - TX
            Boca Raton Resort & C (L) - FL
            RB GC & Resort v2 (L) - TX
            River Creek Park Golf Club (L) - TX

            Others:
            Bali National Golf Club 3

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            • Brettster
              Brettster commented
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              sirish19 - WOW - phenomenal presentation of the entire course! Can you explain how you did that, did you do flyovers and take pictures, then paste into a template with the Montauk Downs logo (top/left), and then pull the tee yardages from the hole on a scorecard in TGC2019?

              I'm really impressed with that layout and would like to see that for every course put up for Sim Golf, it gives you a good idea of what is ahead for the course, the challenges, the holes to try to reach in 2, the layup locations, etc. Would be amazing to see these put together in books for each course, or even to have them available for download/printing if needed. Thanks!

          • #7
            Great job on the course.
            Really well made course.
            since it's been more than 25yrs since I played, I don't remember much of the course, but remember hole 7 par5.
            When I played, I went for the green on 2, but was wet.
            I did much better today.
            I didn't realized all the par3 was this long and hard.
            Maybe I will get to play again, when I visit New York again.
            Here is my stream.

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            • #8
              sirish19 It looks great! Very easy to see the time and effort you put into your courses. Looking forward to playing this one.
              My published courses:
              Musket Ridge Golf Club
              TPC Potomac (Avenel Farm)
              Worthington Manor G.C.
              Baltimore CC (East)
              Caves Valley Golf Club
              TPC Sawgrass - Stadium
              Lodestone Golf Club
              Pebble Beach Golf Links
              Myrtle Beach National - King's North

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              • #9
                Originally posted by bob chung View Post
                Great job on the course.
                Really well made course.
                since it's been more than 25yrs since I played, I don't remember much of the course, but remember hole 7 par5.
                When I played, I went for the green on 2, but was wet.
                I did much better today.
                I didn't realized all the par3 was this long and hard.
                Maybe I will get to play again, when I visit New York again.
                Here is my stream.

                https://youtu.be/tupOqPREcUs
                Hi Bob, thanks for playing my course and a very nice round. I would say you definitely did much better on #7 this go around. Nice distance on your tee shots, you should definitely be going for the green in 2 with that kind of length. I can go for it in 2 with my avatar on the playtest but for sim rounds, I definitely need to be laying up. we should play a round together some time, you are much better than I am but at least we are in the same time zone.
                Japan
                Tochigigaoka Golf Club
                Konosu Country Club (L)
                Olympic Country Club R&H
                Olympic Country Club F&R
                Olympic Country Club H&F
                Olympic National East (L)
                Taiheiyo GC - Gotemba
                Shonan Seaside CC

                US
                Torrey Pines North Course - L
                Torrey Pines South Course - L
                Scarsdale Golf Club (L) - NY
                Montauk Downs - LiDAR - NY
                Golf Club Fossil Creek L - TX
                The Tribute (LiDAR) - TX
                Boca Raton Resort & C (L) - FL
                RB GC & Resort v2 (L) - TX
                River Creek Park Golf Club (L) - TX

                Others:
                Bali National Golf Club 3

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by sirish19 View Post

                  Hi Bob, thanks for playing my course and a very nice round. I would say you definitely did much better on #7 this go around. Nice distance on your tee shots, you should definitely be going for the green in 2 with that kind of length. I can go for it in 2 with my avatar on the playtest but for sim rounds, I definitely need to be laying up. we should play a round together some time, you are much better than I am but at least we are in the same time zone.
                  Hi.
                  we should play together sometimes for sure.
                  you can find more people to play with at TGC19 discord.
                  come and join and have some talk with us.

                  Here is the invite.
                  Check out the The Golf Club - Simulators community on Discord - hang out with 2988 other members and enjoy free voice and text chat.

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                  • #11
                    I just played this. Nice track. Well done!!!

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                    • #12
                      Montauk is being played at TGC19 #Noonan society this week.
                      enjoy it.

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                      • #13
                        Brettster thanks. I can't really take a lot of credit for this, there are several great designers over at TGCTours who do something similar to publicize their courses. CrazyCannuk also shows something similar in one of his videos on publicizing your course.

                        I also thought that it looked pretty cool and can help promote the course. As a designer, it is always great when people play my courses and appreciate the time put into them but with so many great courses coming out and already available on TGC2019, it is often hard to get noticed so I decided to play around with putting something together like this. I took a fairly quick and easy approach and just created a PP presentation to put each hole on a slide. Before publishing, I did a flyover and took overhead shots of each hole and then found a good shot for each hole and adjusted the time to get the best lighting for the shot. I also took a screen shot of the hole yardage (note that I made a mistake and copied yardages for 16 on 16, 17 and 18 ) and pasted. For the overhead shot, I used Doodle on an iPad to feather the edges around the hole and copied and pasted on the slide. Then I simply saved each slide as a jpeg and uploaded here. Pretty simple but did take a couple of hours to put it all together.
                        Japan
                        Tochigigaoka Golf Club
                        Konosu Country Club (L)
                        Olympic Country Club R&H
                        Olympic Country Club F&R
                        Olympic Country Club H&F
                        Olympic National East (L)
                        Taiheiyo GC - Gotemba
                        Shonan Seaside CC

                        US
                        Torrey Pines North Course - L
                        Torrey Pines South Course - L
                        Scarsdale Golf Club (L) - NY
                        Montauk Downs - LiDAR - NY
                        Golf Club Fossil Creek L - TX
                        The Tribute (LiDAR) - TX
                        Boca Raton Resort & C (L) - FL
                        RB GC & Resort v2 (L) - TX
                        River Creek Park Golf Club (L) - TX

                        Others:
                        Bali National Golf Club 3

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                        • #14
                          Played this last night with my son and he got his first sim hole in one on number 2. He was pretty stoked. Funny, i've been golfing for over 25yrs and don't have one IRL and he's been playing for about a year and half now and already has one IRL.

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                          • #15
                            Originally posted by wbond View Post
                            Played this last night with my son and he got his first sim hole in one on number 2. He was pretty stoked. Funny, i've been golfing for over 25yrs and don't have one IRL and he's been playing for about a year and half now and already has one IRL.
                            Nice, congratulations to your son. I have been playing golf for over 20 years and have never had a hole in one IRL, but have gotten one on the sim so far. I happened to be recording my swing and recording the round so I got evidence, haha.
                            Japan
                            Tochigigaoka Golf Club
                            Konosu Country Club (L)
                            Olympic Country Club R&H
                            Olympic Country Club F&R
                            Olympic Country Club H&F
                            Olympic National East (L)
                            Taiheiyo GC - Gotemba
                            Shonan Seaside CC

                            US
                            Torrey Pines North Course - L
                            Torrey Pines South Course - L
                            Scarsdale Golf Club (L) - NY
                            Montauk Downs - LiDAR - NY
                            Golf Club Fossil Creek L - TX
                            The Tribute (LiDAR) - TX
                            Boca Raton Resort & C (L) - FL
                            RB GC & Resort v2 (L) - TX
                            River Creek Park Golf Club (L) - TX

                            Others:
                            Bali National Golf Club 3

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                            • wbond
                              wbond commented
                              Editing a comment
                              I have my hole in ones and holeouts saved on the original TGC, but i couldn't figure out how to save his shot in TGC2019. I wonder if it was because he was playing under the guest name or that option isn't available. Either way, we hit replay and he recorded it on his phone and of course sent it out to basically everyone he knows.
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