I'm just curious if anyone has a list or knows what bugs were fixed from Alpha Testing TGC 2019?
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I'm not seeing the ball carrying further than my GC2 readout. If anything on most shots it's carrying less than what I'm getting by a few yards.
it doesnt bother me though because it seems like I get a few extra yards of roll out more than I would IRL perhaps so it all evens out in the end.
my advice would be to just play and not worry about a couple yards here and there, as you know Leo Mode, every flight algorithm is different.
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Originally posted by LEO MODE View PostI noticed carry distance is slightly longer than GC2 throughout all clubs on 2019 (not just a driver as notoriously known on Foresight products for low spin). On TGC1 i also found out that the carry distance can be more or less vs GC2 - but still very similar which is not a good sign for driver shots especially - and yet on 2019 it is even longer than GC2.
I was thinking if the high bounce on the first roll would be the cause for TGC2019. But even with no wind and medium ground settings, the distance seems to be inflated than IRL (verified using ball flight model algorithm and Trackman outdoor numbers). Sorry to burst if you donât or canât believe me.My Courses:
World Par 3's by mthunt
Toronto GC (L) mthunt
Burlington G&CC by mthunt
Weston G&CC by mthunt
London Hunt Club L mthunt
Park CC Lidar mthunt
Sunningdale GC Robinson L
Sunningdale GC Thompson L
Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
The National GC L mthunt
Mississaugua GC L mthunt
Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
Markland Woods CC mthunt
Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
Magna GC L mthunt
Barrie CC L mthunt
mthunt Range
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Originally posted by Jwheels9876 View PostI'm not seeing the ball carrying further than my GC2 readout. If anything on most shots it's carrying less than what I'm getting by a few yards.
it doesnt bother me though because it seems like I get a few extra yards of roll out more than I would IRL perhaps so it all evens out in the end.
my advice would be to just play and not worry about a couple yards here and there, as you know Leo Mode, every flight algorithm is different.Last edited by LEO MODE; 03-30-2019, 03:31 PM.
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mthunt, that's something i never heard before, that outdoor they all match same numbers on low spin shots. I would love to see your proof on that and u just wrote up there that you saw a difference in carry on different GC2 firmware.....Last edited by LEO MODE; 03-31-2019, 01:04 AM.
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I just hit 30 shots on mthunts range from 7 iron to driver good and bad and tgc matched gc2 typically within 2 or 3 yards with several being exactly the same. Tgc was sometimes higher sometimes lower. There were some 5 yd differences higher or lower and the worst discrepancy was 10 yards once on a 1400 rpm driver shot. I didnt see tgc as having a particular bias longer or shorter.
I do see bigger differences when playing a round but that's expected as lie, wind, elevation etc come into play.
Not really seeing a problem in tgc2019. They will never be exact on every shot. Tuning the algorithm to one persons swing could make it worse generally.
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ok you're comparing with gc2 again which already has a bias ingrained....not here to stir things up but just wanted to tell the truth (and to be honest sometimes nobody wants to know the truth which I understand). I wasn't talking about the course and total distance either; pure standard no lie no nothing on a flat range. I am already seeing something interesting as I've been playing rounds and I'm sure people will start to notice. I have a lot of passion to fix and help everyone, not to start some war.Last edited by LEO MODE; 03-31-2019, 01:00 AM.
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Again, today considerable less on gc2 than game, but very happy with software results and the play. But I like truth (maybe I can't hit shit and gc2 is right), and if there's more truthiness here to unearth Leo I'm eager to find out.
Now where was I.... back to that bug up my butt about course lighting elsewhere on this forum......
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Reviving this thread just to ask for distance to pin in the âside bar scorecardâ (lots of room there) and an âup nextâ with distance to pin in the after shot card?1 Photo-KillaCale8
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Originally posted by calebm1001 View PostReviving this thread just to ask for distance to pin in the âside bar scorecardâ (lots of room there) and an âup nextâ with distance to pin in the after shot card?My Courses:
World Par 3's by mthunt
Toronto GC (L) mthunt
Burlington G&CC by mthunt
Weston G&CC by mthunt
London Hunt Club L mthunt
Park CC Lidar mthunt
Sunningdale GC Robinson L
Sunningdale GC Thompson L
Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
The National GC L mthunt
Mississaugua GC L mthunt
Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
Markland Woods CC mthunt
Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
Magna GC L mthunt
Barrie CC L mthunt
mthunt Range
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I would agree. Tons of fish to fry. Just some more random things that seem forgotten from the development of the game that would be nice to have someday. I have to believe if itâs not physics related or entire game type (think scramble) that a a few lines of code to showcase information readily available wouldnât be a big time suck.
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The high first bounce is just ridiculous and hard to explain to people that come to use my sim. I wish that bug would be fixed
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Yeah, that uphill bounce problem goes down badly with friends, have to do some quick explaining
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Solstice72 Even if it's in the console version, why can it not be fixed here? As I understand it, there are sim specific items in the software that we use. Is this really not the case?
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I hear ya wbond, I hear ya. For that issue it's not clear if it's legal, technical, or a lack of will.
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In TGC I used to employ the "E" key followed by the "V" key quite a bit when putting to get differing angles and side views of the putt. In 2019 it does little or nothing.
Also, does ANYONE get the flag stick to pull/replace using the recommended "C" key in 2019 or the "F" key from TGC??? Is that just my install or is it a glitch?
A show/hide minimap hotkey would be a nice touch.
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mthunt Everyone hates the first bounce because it just is super unrealistic. Sometimes you need to hit a low punchout shot or you're short sided and want to hit a chip/pitch shot into a hill to kill some speed and it just reacts so horribly.
Like others have said, it is very frustrating to try to explain it to guests when they come over.
The main frustrating thing for me is that Protee hasn't really addressed it at all.
If they can't fix it, tell us why.
If they won't fix it, tell us why.
If they are trying to fix it, tell us when they plan to have it fixed.
We just want some kind of communication on the issues.
As well as maybe a feature road map for the future(scrambles, # of players, more tournaments).
It seems our main feedback is mthunt , who mainly just defends protee.
As well as Protee_max on discord, but he is mostly just handling discord stuff, and troubleshooting issues with TGC.
It seems TGC is getting more and more users, and they will all be asking these same questions.
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Originally posted by JackedUpSwing View Postmthunt Everyone hates the first bounce because it just is super unrealistic. Sometimes you need to hit a low punchout shot or you're short sided and want to hit a chip/pitch shot into a hill to kill some speed and it just reacts so horribly.
Like others have said, it is very frustrating to try to explain it to guests when they come over.
The main frustrating thing for me is that Protee hasn't really addressed it at all.
If they can't fix it, tell us why.
If they won't fix it, tell us why.
If they are trying to fix it, tell us when they plan to have it fixed.
We just want some kind of communication on the issues.
As well as maybe a feature road map for the future(scrambles, # of players, more tournaments).
It seems our main feedback is mthunt , who mainly just defends protee.
As well as Protee_max on discord, but he is mostly just handling discord stuff, and troubleshooting issues with TGC.
It seems TGC is getting more and more users, and they will all be asking these same questions.My Courses:
World Par 3's by mthunt
Toronto GC (L) mthunt
Burlington G&CC by mthunt
Weston G&CC by mthunt
London Hunt Club L mthunt
Park CC Lidar mthunt
Sunningdale GC Robinson L
Sunningdale GC Thompson L
Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
The National GC L mthunt
Mississaugua GC L mthunt
Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
Markland Woods CC mthunt
Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
Magna GC L mthunt
Barrie CC L mthunt
mthunt Range
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JackedUpSwing It's mainly because protee has no control over the software, from my understanding they are basically just a reseller that fronted money to HB to make the game work for a sim. HB studios has went dark on the steam/xbox/ps3 version; those people are unhappy with HB.
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Is there a video of this first bounce issue I can view? I have the Steam version and I have not noticed this first bounce issue. Is it only in the ProTee version? I'm thinking about buying TGC2019 for SkyTrak.
Does this video show the issue?
I've hit that shot in real life many times on that hole. The bounce seems legit.Last edited by Jerome; 01-14-2020, 07:35 PM.
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I'm kind of wondering if TGC 2019 is getting orphaned....... No info, no fixes, even on minor simple things (flag in/out key not working for example), no updates for 8 or 10 months now?
I really like the game but I'm kind of wondering if its just been abandoned by its seller with no plans for bug fixes or improvements.
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