Xi tour vs x3

[StuartG]

I agree in general but when you fit clubs there are some general rules to live by when you want to alter the path etc by changing requirement and when you change for instance total weight of the club and shaft length you know that most players will decrease their fade given the same moi around the hands. So you know that the curvature changed when changing the club but to be honest you dont need club data for that, you need to understand how the swing works and observe the ball flight.

If i look at my self the only club data that would gain time and precision in my fitting is spin related. But since i dont try to alter spin loft or swings with my club fitting the most common solution for me is to do some magic with kick point, balance point and a combination of shaft bend profiles and different tiptrimming options. Non of them require anything else then spin and spin axis.

Sure i might tiptrim a shaft poorly once in a while but to be honest i see no increase in quality cost after i swapped from the Xi+, which btw was "hacked" and had all parameters.

Well, like all the general 'rules' for fitting, shaft launch characteristics (or kickpoint) is a very undependable and unpredictable way to try and tweak launch and spin for many - but this is a discussion on selecting an LM, not on fitting techniques - so might be best not to take this tangent too far. At least not here. :-)

Bottom line, each person has to make their own decision on what data is important to them when selecting an LM.

[Brutaly]

Well, like all the general 'rules' for fitting, shaft launch characteristics (or kickpoint) is a very undependable and unpredictable way to try and tweak launch and spin for many - but this is a discussion on selecting an LM, not on fitting techniques - so might be best not to take this tangent too far. At least not here. :-)

Bottom line, each person has to make their own decision on what data is important to them when selecting an LM.

Well i spine all my shafts and match spine individual in a set and also match bend profiles but i suspect very few fitters do that so i can understand that kick point feels unreliable in general. OP said that he might use his device for fitting so think it is kind of relevant.

[StuartG]

Well i spine all my shafts and match spine individual in a set and also match bend profiles but i suspect very few fitters do that so i can understand that kick point feels unreliable in general. OP said that he might use his device for fitting so think it is kind of relevant.

And my point was just that what really matters to this discussion is what the OP thinks is important data for fitting (which he didn't clarify), not what you or I think is important data for fitting or whether we agree or not.

[Skippy]

Thanks for all the input I am actually going to the golf works academy here in February so hopefully I will understand fitting and club making a little better and maybe that will help me make up my mind.

[Brutaly]

Thanks for all the input I am actually going to the golf works academy here in February so hopefully I will understand fitting and club making a little better and maybe that will help me make up my mind.

May i suggest this as a preparation for that class.

https://wishongolf.com/common-sense-clubfitting/

That book will almost certainly clear things up for you and might even help you chose the right LM for you.

[Skippy]

Thanks I will check it out.

[TheBurtonEus]

Skippy I have an Xi+ for sale. I'm currently working on the transfer fee with Flightscope. I am also selling it with e6 (3 courses), and an older Samsung tablet for $4,000USD as a starting price for negotiation. I'll send you a pm.

[Fairways_and_Greens]

I really would like to have club path data and be able to play simulations. Can the Xi tour or x2 connect to an indoor simulator?

[StuartG]

The older Trugolf e6 v1.6 supports those units. Doesn't support chipping or putting though - really only the full swing so the experience is quite different from sims using other LM's.

[Dax]

I have an indoor TM3e for sale at the moment that I am also selling with e6 1.6 as well as a solution for putting. I think this will give you the data points you are hoping to find.