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  • GCQ Initial Impression/Early Review

    Anyone following the other thread I figured I would start a new one in case anyone wanted to get impressions without having to hear about the ordeal of a day I had

    I got my GCQ on Wednesday but it was held at Fed ex for a day so I received the unit last night. I spent most of last night and nearly alll day today getting the software set up. the Quad only runs on FSX version 3.0 which is a Beta for now (soon to be released). The engineers at Foresight were amazing today and patiently worked on things remotely until I could get it running.

    First impressions is that it is beautiful! The case and the display are amazing. The backlight it helpful but in daylight you can read it well. Ergonomically its easy to carry especially coming from a GC2/HMT. If you never move your unit around this is likely less of an issue, but I will be using mine at my club and at home. Some folks thought it looked big from my first photos but the GC2 was a foot behind it so the depth of field was wrong. I'm including new photos (hopefully they work as I did what another member suggested and scaled them down on my laptop as my iphone 7s files are too large)

    Its very fast to boot up and the extended ball capture is a huge deal, especially if you go from driving off a tee to hitting off the turf. My 5x5 country club elite mat is really worth it now as I can use most of it instead of a small strip.

    Accuracy is amazing. Ball data is right there with Trackman. I took the unit to my pro early this am and we tested them head to head. Ball data was spot on. Club data is better than on Trackman. Club head speed in spot on as are smash factor (Trackman tracks club speed after the ball is hit so the club head speed is always slower, but ball speed is accurate, giving false elevated smash. Impact point is perfect (tested with contact tape)

    One of the best new features is the alignment stick. Anyone who has fiddled with GCS/HMT knows its easy to be off a few degrees which screws up your numbers. That is all but gone and ball flight is exactly where they should be feel wise and numbers wise since you are literally setting your target line. This is really great when playing on FSX courses.

    FSX 3.0: WOW, detail is much improved especially on 4K. Its more responsive than 2.4 by a lot, not much change on driving range except there is a new shot viewer where you can see your averages etc on the side of the driving range without having to go into the info page. Courses are more clear with better graphics all around (all upgraded to 1.8 version)

    Downsides: Yes there are some of those too. Especially being an early adopter. Im having the same issues with lots of my smart home stuff and my self driving Tesla so to be expected. However, the connection issue is a bit of a mess. They have the Quad set up to connect via Wifi, ethernet and USB 3.0 . One of the techs says it also has bluetooth but its not turned on yet. The problem is FSX requires a internet connection to be active and your computer if using wifi (like mine is) can't accept two wifi connections. The same is true with ethernet. Either the wifi is on or the ethernet is on. See the problem? One of the engineers said you can use both but we couldn't get it to work. They understand the issues and I'm confident they will get it working soon. Thus for the time being only USB 3.0 will work and the cable that comes with the unit is small so I had to get a powered extender. Anyway, It was a bit of a PITA today but Im happy now.

    Anyway, thats all for now, outdoor impressions on the course to come if we get some sun this weekend..Take care..


    Last edited by RCorsa; 02-11-2017, 03:23 AM.

  • #31
    I guess the big question is... Was is worth the upgrade? Or does it have some more convenient/cool features that you could probably do without?

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    • #32
      @RCosta - Any update on this? Has Foresight managed to get your network setup working? I'd still like to see some screenshots or video of the improved ESX.

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      • #33
        No updates but to be honest haven't really worked on it as I've been slammed at work. Hope to have some updates by end of the week.

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        • #34
          When is FSX 3.0 going to be available?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by JoeJoeJoeUrBoat View Post
            When is FSX 3.0 going to be available?
            Very soon! It was supposed to be released last week, but I guess they've got some more bugs to iron out first.

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            • #36
              Here is a GCQuad vs TM4 shootout I found






              Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

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              • #37
                Who's hitting balls in that video. Mike Myers???

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                • goatbarn
                  goatbarn commented
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                  A terrorist.

              • #38
                The distance from the TM4 to ball seemed shorter than recommended. Difficult to appreciate depth perception on video but appeared to be about 8 feet.

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                • #39
                  Tough to tell, other than the creepy mask that was great info!

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                  • #40
                    Looks like a pretty good test. While looks like TM might be a little close to be in the sweet spot for accurate club measurement, at the start of the video they seem to indicate that they are a TM shop and have done vids with the TM in he past. As such, inwould suspect they know what they are doing on set up.

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                    • cspin
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                      I suspect they know what they are doing as well, but one thing that stuck out to me was how every shot the guy hit started left of center. Some faded back but most hung out left. He was obviously a strong player and had to be hitting the ball at his intended target. So, that leads me to believe that there is a good chance that his target line was not what the TM or GCQ were on. What doesn't make sense is that the two pros doing the talking never mentioned anything about it. The guy hitting was going trough a detailed pre shot routine on each ball, and checking his alignment to something. Would have been nice to know if the guy was pull fading the ball on his actual target line, since that is what the flight/data appeared to be showing.

                  • #41
                    So we finally had a break in the weather and I was able to do some more outdoor testing. My pro at the club uses a TM 4 as well so we did some outdoor comparisons. It's interesting but outdoor the numbers on ball data were nearly identical whereas indoors we saw some odd spin data on the TM. Clearly TM shines outdoors for ball data since it's actually watching what the ball does. Indoors we would occasionally question the quad numbers when there was discrepancies. However it's actually more likely the TM numbers are the ones that are off since we know TM is estimating the ball numbers indoors and when we went outdoors the numbers on both were nearly identical.

                    However the club data points are much better on quad without question. The face point strike location is also key on determining gear effect etc. The alligment works perfectly and given the large hitting area for the ball placement the usability of he quad surpasses anything else I've used.

                    Overall I'd give the quad an A+. No question it's worth the upgrade for me. If you are just playing courses and not doing game improvement indoor and outdoors then maybe not. Honestly if the TM was better I would simply sell my quad and get it but I really feels we are seeing a changing of the guard.

                    The biggest obstacle foresight has right now is getting over the trackman name which I agree will be an uphill battle but as far as tech goes, there is no question they've done it.

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                    • #42
                      I have a GC2 with HMT, FR1, and TGC software. I would definitely upgrade to the GCQ if they would enable the bluetooth to enable integration with TGC. Heck, I would even buy FSX as prerequisite to them enabling the bluetooth.

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                      • #43
                        They are starting to get a little PGA tour love. Ricky Fowler and Russell Knok just signed on to use the quad.

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                        • #44
                          Originally posted by onehandicap View Post
                          I have a GC2 with HMT, FR1, and TGC software. I would definitely upgrade to the GCQ if they would enable the bluetooth to enable integration with TGC. Heck, I would even buy FSX as prerequisite to them enabling the bluetooth.
                          This is the rub for me as well. I can understand the business model. But if you already buy FSX, it's tough to justify not giving consumers what the want. Only remaining angle is to sell courses.

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                          • #45
                            I'm ok with the bluetooth being disabled at this point because I think their primary market is club fitters and pros right now. In a year or two, when maybe I can afford the Quad, they will realize that there is a demand for people who want different options than just FSX. That is what I am hoping anyways. FSX is pretty solid and great for numbers, but the graphics are not up to par with TGC or E6.

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