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  • Maxomoto
    Member
    • Aug 2015
    • 66

    #1

    HMT not reading anything?

    Hi. My GC2 + HMT used to work. Now the HMT seems to not get/send any club data. HMT is properly showing "HMT Connected" on the GC2; green light on the HMT is on when the ball is in the hitting area. Dots are on the club, tried 4 and 1 dot. Any ideas? Best. Max
  • Maxomoto
    Member
    • Aug 2015
    • 66

    #2
    Ok. Did some more testing. I get readings once in a while. Mostly 1 dot readings. I got 1 4-dot reading with my driver. But the majority of shots - no club reading. 1. Different or more lighting does not do anything - seems not to be the problem. 2. Position of the ball in the hitting are seems not to make a difference. Close to the edge or right in the middle - same.

    So it might be the stickers? I did put new stickers on - but the stickers are 2 years old, got them from Par2Pro back then. Or I read it could be the LED panel in the HMT?
    Last edited by Maxomoto; 11-23-2018, 01:53 PM.

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    • mthunt
      Ultimate Member
      • Aug 2014
      • 4746

      #3
      Stickers don’t go bad. Try your spare flash and make sure the sticker on the club is fresh.
      My Courses:
      World Par 3's by mthunt
      Toronto GC (L) mthunt
      Burlington G&CC by mthunt
      Weston G&CC by mthunt
      London Hunt Club L mthunt
      Park CC Lidar mthunt
      Sunningdale GC Robinson L
      Sunningdale GC Thompson L
      Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
      Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
      The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
      The National GC L mthunt
      Mississaugua GC L mthunt
      Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
      Markland Woods CC mthunt
      Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
      Magna GC L mthunt
      Barrie CC L mthunt
      mthunt Range

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      • Maxomoto
        Member
        • Aug 2015
        • 66

        #4
        The flash in the GC2 is for the HMT? Didnt know that.

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        • mmlincon
          Extreme Member
          • Aug 2014
          • 901

          #5
          Sounds like its your LED array. If you have any way to test with a lefty vs a righty is may work and would help confirm the arrays are failing. Only way to fix it is to send it into Foresight.

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          • Maxomoto
            Member
            • Aug 2015
            • 66

            #6
            Oh. Damn. Will ask them. "Test with a lefty" meaning I put the GC2 on the other side and get a lefty club with stickers? Why would that be different? Are there two LED panels?

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            • mmlincon
              Extreme Member
              • Aug 2014
              • 901

              #7
              Honestly, I have no idea. I sent mine in when it would only pick up 1 dot occasionally with a 4 dot club. They tested and said it worked fine. So, I paid for shipping and calibration. I get the unit back and it was exactly the same. I could tell the tester was a lefty based on the base plate configuration. I sent it back and they guessed it might be the arrays and replaced them for $500. Unit worked like new after that.

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              • mmlincon
                mmlincon commented
                Editing a comment
                I think we will start seeing more and more of the HMTs out there having this issue. The LED arrays obviously have a MTF but I don't even know if Foresight knows was that is. If they do they don't advertise it. It probably depends on a number of factors.
            • Maxomoto
              Member
              • Aug 2015
              • 66

              #8
              Hm. That is actually pretty bad. 500 Euros every once in a while to replace that array adds up. Where is the array? In the HMT? Would be an idea to look into it and see if this is another 10 Euro part, that they sell for 500....like their aimstick or their stickers.

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              • mmlincon
                Extreme Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 901

                #9
                I think it would be difficult to replace them. It is the LEDs that encircle the cameras on the HMT. Basically, over time/usage they will decrease in intensity and the images start to get too dark for the cameras to pick up the dots. It's not great especially since we've all been told the only wear and tear parts are the flash on the GC2 and batteries. I don't remember when the first HMTs started rolling out but we are around 5 years or so I would guess. If you have a heavily used HMT and it's one of the earlier models it maybe getting close to having this issue. I think this is only the 4th one I've heard of that is showing this so all in all that isn't horrible. It sucks to be one with it but it's not like you need to buy a new one.

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                • Maxomoto
                  Member
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 66

                  #10
                  Update: I ordered the reflective tape mentioned above (from Conrad) and punched round stickers out with a standard paper punch. Now I get 4-dot readings with every shot again. So it was the not so reflective stickers from Cory. Great. The tape will last quite a while. Yeah!

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                  • mmlincon
                    mmlincon commented
                    Editing a comment
                    you never mentioned you were using third party stickers - if/when it starts happening again you'll want to use official Foresight stickers just to make sure it isn't a reflective tape issue. If the stickers you had were working and then stopped it's a sign the intensity of your LEDs are reducing. More reflective material will extend the usage period. Hopefully the old stuff was just sub par and you'll still get a bunch of use out of the arrays.
                • shellman19
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2017
                  • 228

                  #11
                  Originally posted by Maxomoto View Post
                  Update: I ordered the reflective tape mentioned above (from Conrad) and punched round stickers out with a standard paper punch. Now I get 4-dot readings with every shot again. So it was the not so reflective stickers from Cory. Great. The tape will last quite a while. Yeah!
                  I'm sorry but I don't see the post about reflective tape from "Conrad" that you are referring to in your post???

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                  • mthunt
                    Ultimate Member
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 4746

                    #12
                    How many shots would one of these arrays last? I wonder if I should remove the HMT when playing rounds. Thoughts?
                    My Courses:
                    World Par 3's by mthunt
                    Toronto GC (L) mthunt
                    Burlington G&CC by mthunt
                    Weston G&CC by mthunt
                    London Hunt Club L mthunt
                    Park CC Lidar mthunt
                    Sunningdale GC Robinson L
                    Sunningdale GC Thompson L
                    Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
                    Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
                    The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
                    The National GC L mthunt
                    Mississaugua GC L mthunt
                    Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
                    Markland Woods CC mthunt
                    Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
                    Magna GC L mthunt
                    Barrie CC L mthunt
                    mthunt Range

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                    • mmlincon
                      mmlincon commented
                      Editing a comment
                      I have no idea... a lot! But if you aren't using the HMT data it's probably a good idea to just remove it to save the LEDs. I've considered this with the Quad even but so far I just leave it on.
                  • Maxomoto
                    Member
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 66

                    #13
                    Originally posted by shellman19 View Post

                    I'm sorry but I don't see the post about reflective tape from "Conrad" that you are referring to in your post???
                    Sorry. Here https://golfsimulatorforum.com/forum...icker-re-order

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                  • Maxomoto
                    Member
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 66

                    #14
                    I think mmlincon you are right. The more reflective stickers from the tape (I think they are a lot more reflective than the original Foresight stickers or the ones I got from Par2Pro) improved it a bit, but after a few shots I already get a lot 1-dot readings or no readings at all again. So it seems it is the array. Will get in touch with Foresight. I think 500 Euros is absolutely ridiculous for LEDs....

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