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Room config tool isn’t adjusting the offset like it did in 2020.
Any tricks within the program itself to accomplish this?
Any tricks within the program itself to accomplish this?
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Thanks for doing all that, but I already posted all that info...except it doesn't matter which tool you use, they all change the same file. -
If anyone is still having this issue (like I was), I uninstalled all FS products and reinstalled 2020 and Play and no longer have the problem.Comment
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That is really interesting. Explains why some of us (who maybe did not have earlier versions) did not see the same issue. Glad you have figured it out!Comment
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Do you guys know how to save the negative number. All the other measurements save and my target line is 24 inches offset to the left. It says use negative numbers for left so -24 but when i do it save it as 24 not -24Comment
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If it's not saving, go in and test it to make sure. Maybe it just doesn't show on the tool. The file is more important.
If still not, then edit in the file.
"C:\ProgramData\Foresight\ForesightRoomConfig.json "
Just look for that DX setting and add a negative. The number will be different as it's metric. Don't change the number, just add a negative,.Comment
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I started putting this above but I can't put a picture, so...
Sorry... open windows explorer (the folder icon that you use to look at files and paste this into the top:
C:\ProgramData\Foresight\
That will take you to the folder where the file is that is called: "ForesightRoomConfig.json"
Right Click, click "Open With"
DE-SELECT the checkbox that says "Always use this app..."
Click on NOTEPAD (or click "more apps" if that isn't shown
Once open, you will see a bunch of gobbligook (technical term) that looks like this below and there is a section for every launch monitor type, just like in the config program:
{
"MessageTransferLatency_ms": 50.0,
"ScreenWidth_m": 3.3527981894889778,
"ScreenHeight_m": 2.4383986832647109,
"GolferEyeHeight_m": 1.6764,
"GC2Config": {
"RightHandRoomOffset_m": {
"X": 0.457,
"Y": 0.0,
"Z": -3.353,
"W": 0.0
},
"LeftHandRoomOffset_m": {
"X": -0.457,
"Y": 0.0,
"Z": -3.353,
"W": 0.0
},
"RightTeeOffset_m": {
"X": -0.00019999999999997797,
"Y": 0.05,
"Z": -3.607,
"W": 0.0
},
"LeftTeeOffset_m": {
"X": 0.00019999999999997797,
"Y": 0.05,
"Z": -3.607,
"W": 0.0
},
"RightHandRotation_deg": {
"RotationAdjust_deg": 0.0,
"ElevationAdjust_deg": 0.0,
"AzimuthAdjust_deg": 0.0
},
"LeftHandRotation_deg": {
"RotationAdjust_deg": 0.0,
"ElevationAdjust_deg": 0.0,
"AzimuthAdjust_deg": 0.0
}
},
"GCQConfig": {
"RightHandRoomOffset_m": {
"X": 0.83819954737224445,
"Y": 0.050799972568014815,
"Z": -1.9811989301525779,
"W": 0.0
...it goes on and on.
ACTUALLY, I'VE NEVER really paid attention...it looks like you enter right in the config tool and it calculates left for you. So I think you shoul djust enter it all in positive numbers and that's why it's showing positive numbers. Did you test it?
Here is my Quad info:
"GCQConfig": {
"RightHandRoomOffset_m": {
"X": 0.83819954737224445,
"Y": 0.050799972568014815,
"Z": -1.9811989301525779,
"W": 0.0
},
"LeftHandRoomOffset_m": {
"X": -0.83819954737224445,
"Y": 0.050799972568014815,
"Z": -1.9811989301525779,
"W": 0.0
},
"RightTeeOffset_m": {
"X": 0.27939954737224448,
"Y": 0.10079997256801482,
"Z": -2.336798930152578,
"W": 0.0
},
"LeftTeeOffset_m": {
"X": -0.27939954737224448,
"Y": 0.10079997256801482,
"Z": -2.336798930152578,
"W": 0.0
},
"RightHandRotation_deg": {
"RotationAdjust_deg": 0.0,
"ElevationAdjust_deg": 0.0,
"AzimuthAdjust_deg": 0.0
},
"LeftHandRotation_deg": {
"RotationAdjust_deg": 0.0,
"ElevationAdjust_deg": 0.0,
"AzimuthAdjust_deg": 0.0
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Ok. I tried this. Put the numbers for right handers to minus numbers. Saved and overwrought the original. Went back to FSX2020 but the line didn’t move. Went back to room config tool and it did indeed change it to minus and save it but doesn’t reflect the changes on FSX2020 -
It I opened as admin about 20 tries ago and now I dont even have that option
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The thing is we pay 500 $ for software that doesn’t work and foresight wants its users to figure out how to fix it .
I stopped using fsx play .
Been using E6 connect for sim play and fsx 2020 for practice and club data .Comment
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You could try not adding a negative number but making sure the launch monitor is set to the "handedness" you are hitting from. I've got a GCQ for righties, a GC3 for lefties. Using the room config tool, the one supplied with FSX Play, NOT FSX 2020, and running it "as administrator", things work perfectly without using negative numbers (I couldn't get it to work that way, though it makes sense), I do have to make sure that the GC3 is set to "L", not "R" on the setup screen.Comment
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Just reconfirming...you should NOT be putting in a negative number form the way I look at it. It appears that you enter information on the tool for a RIGHTY and it swaps it when you select LEFTY.
Maybe you should mess around and try setting it up for righty and see if it offsets.
If it doesn't, I'd uninstall everything, restart and start over,..or create a ticket with support and get their help.Comment
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Our experience with getting offset to work with FSX Play differs from FSX 2020.
When looking at the screen, our offset is on the right quarter of the screen so it’s rather significant. So our offset is to the RIGHT of true screen centerline. If your offset is to the LEFT of true screen centerline, you’d enter negative numbers in the tool.
Here’s where it gets fun, and after trialing and erroring and spending hours with support we have it pretty well dialed in.- DX measurement for FSX Play is a random BS number, it’s not the true DX measurement of how far from screen centerline our launch monitor is. FSX 2020 uses the “true” DX distance.
- With FSX Play closed, run your room config tool as admin. This is important; make sure the number in DX is the same for GC2, GC3, GCQuad. This is even more important, if the DX number is the same, click in field, add a digit, delete the digit, click save settings. Do this for each launch monitor.
- Close the room config tool and open FSX Play. Choose a course and MAKE SURE YOU SET A BALL DOWN, see how the offset moved. If it’s too far to the right (when looking at screen) decrease the value in DX by a couple inches. If offset is too far to left (when looking at screen) increase the value in DX.
You need to close Play and go through the room config process all over again for each launch monitor. - Once you find your DX number for Play, write it down. Before each round you’ll need to run room config and enter that number in DX. If the number is already there ADD A DIGIT AND DELETE THE DIGIT SO THE PROGRAM FORCES YOU TO SAVE THE CHANGES.
- Good luck
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That is likely the default, because the default is to have the ball in the center and therefore the default location of the lm needs to be offset. But...what you are writing makes no sense if I'm understanding you.
Maybe I'm confused...you are a LEFTY, correct? or are you a righty and have this offset to the left? If so, that is completely different. -
I know it mad zero sense to me also. The default is the center of the screen but the way they have the room config tool set up makes it 18 inches. I guess because the way the GCQUAD is set on the floor the corner edge of the unit ends up being 18 inch hence default 18 inches. The problem is if you want to move your aim line left you only have values between 0-18 to work with. You can move the line to the right as far as your like but moving left your at absolute zero max. Hope this explains it. Not sure why they did that, would have been easy for them to just make “0” the far left edge of the screen then we can use that as a base to move right from the edge -
Yeah, I just don't think many other than you have the unit left of center being a righty. I understand the space issue but that just seems odd how you could even swing at all. So again, you have your unit to the left of the center of your screen (if facing the screen) and you are hitting righty?
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The Fauskie method is good. I don't have to do step 4, but everything else is applicable.Comment
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Thank you for your patience as the Foresight Sports software development team identified and resolved the Center Line bug in FSX PLAY. This has now been resolved and the update has been posted to the FSX PLAY Product Support Page.
If you have any questions which you would like Foresight Sports Technical Support to assist with please contact us: Request Technical SupportComment
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I reached out to a youtuber that seems to understand this stuff and he explained that the alignment stick isn't used for indoor simulation and that I should try to align my GC3 "square" to the screen/target line.
He also said that the target line should be centred to the hitting area, therefore my roomconfigtool numbers need to be tweaked because for me it's slightly left of the hitting area. (I could post an image if anyone wants)
He also explained it doesn't really affect data too much, like "in-out or out-in" swing.
This has been really difficult to explain to people at Foresight, and I'll bet I'm not the only one setting up an indoor sim that's having trouble. I can't find an image of what the target line should look like with the roomconfigtool properly set up. But, I'm thinking now that it should be aligned with the centre of the hitting area, but also that it's not that critical to playing and practicing. More of a wild goose hunt, than anything important.
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What does this "you-tuber" do, screw down his quad? Sounds like a few screws loose. How are ya gonne know if your quad is perfectly square other than to use the stick. (trick answer, you can't). If you're a 15 handicap, then yes agreed, the numbers don't really matter.
Your quad will move.
Your alignment needs to be perfect.
It does matter, or you should just buy a cheaper lm that's less accurate.
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Hey Baller! I agree. But I'm getting nothing in the way of answers from Foresight. They don't seem to understand the questions, which makes me think I'm asking such an irrelevant level of inquiry that the answer cannot even be imagined. Like, perhaps "the alignment stick is only meant for outdoors at the driving range"??? I don't know??? Or, perhaps, "you're supposed use the roomconfigtool to tweak the target line (even though that means entering incorrect numbers) to align it with the centre of the hitting area"??? ...again, I don't know??? And Foresight seems to be doing everything they can to avoid answering these questions.
I'm going to post an image below. Tell what do you think?
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Your picture makes total sense and it is totally up to you. Your choices are:
1) Aim straight ahead (using yellow line) and use the room config tool to move the aim line to where you are
OR
2) Use the red line and hit at an angle. Personally, I'd rather aim straight and use method 1 if those were my only two options, however, why can't you move the LM to be more towards the center and then point along the yellow? That is what I would do unless you don't have enough room to swing.
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You'd point it at where you are aiming, along the path of your red line. Just to clarify then, you'd need to always be taking a stance relative to the same line, squared/perpendicular to that line with your stance to hit a straight shot. If you align the GC3 along the red line, but then stand perpendicular to the edge of your mat, you're always going to be hitting to the right. I believe the room config tool is meant to help with that, it would offset the target and the target line enough that you could stay square to the mat & then the adjustment angle for the GC3 would be much smaller. See the attachment. The blue line is the position of the alignment stick if the blue dot is your target.
Were you to use the room adjustment tool to move your aimpoint to the black dot, then you'd place the alignment stick parallel to the face of the GC3 and your stance could be parallel to the mat. That's how mine is set up, it's just a lot easier to use prominent features to aid with your alignment. I'll upload a pic of mine a little later this morning.Comment
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Select "Room View"to see the majority of the SIM area. My room is 173" wide. Then "Distance...Overview"
shows my projector in the middle of the floor and the distance to the right of it that the GCQuad sits. Distance...Detail"
shows the exact distance from center of the room the face of the GCQuad is. My DX distance in the Room Adjustment tool is set at 69. Had to tweak it to that to get the lines to match.
So if I lay the alignment stick down on my hitting mat, see "Aligmne...Placement",then I get "TA"
as the adjustment the GCQuad will make to the data. (it's always 0.1° L for me because I have the height adjustment block carpet taped to the laminate flooring, and then a template screwed into the top of the block so that if it get's bumped we don't have to realign, you just set it back into the template).
After all of that the "DTL"shows how everything is squared up. My stance to hit it to the target is always perpendicular to the mat.
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The pictures and captions are really useful... thx!
When I look at other people's set ups on YouTube, most seem to have the target line slightly left of the hitting area, and since I've made sure my dimensions in the roomconfigtool are correct and this is where my target line ends up, I was wondering if this outcome is the "recommended" outcome from Foresight. I can't get an answer to this question from them, in any way shape for form.
It seems, everyone needs to tweak the roomconfigtool numbers in order to get the target line centered to the hitting area. If this is true, I feel like Foresight should be working on getting the roomconfigtool to function the way considered best for users. I'd also like to know from them if the alignment stick is only meant for outdoor/range use, since a few people have told me this (but nothing clear from Foresight or their instruction guides).
Anyway, Thx! I have every answer I need now.
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@MeeeTooooo
I am sorry if you felt our answers had not addressed your questions about the Room Configuration Tool sufficiently. I attempted to draw attention to the Configuration Tool as a separate instance than the Alignment Stick, as one operates apart from the other. But I can see now, that it didn't fully address your inquiry about the Alignment Stick - Ignoring the question was not intended, just not fully understood. I apologize for any frustrations caused here.
In regards to your questions about the Alignment Stick, based upon your needs and a few others on this forum we have begun to build a more in depth guide for Alignment Stick use (when to use, how to use, and what is impacted during use), rather than the simplified explanations offered in your devices user guide that was provided at purchase with the product. I can appreciate your confusion here, and we will do our best to offer a better resource to the marketplace soon.
I am glad to see that Baller & MongoOnlyPawn had been able to offer the clarification needed though.
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