range balls

[Tommyaa]

Hallo guys, I have the gc2 with software and 5 courses, as far as I can tell taking it to the range and using range balls show pretty accurate numbers even with range balls that normally doesn't fly as long, what's your experience??? do you use shot boos or anything like that?

[2480]

I use range balls with mine. I got a box of 500 brand new for something like $150 bucks. They are a little different but still work for practice if you ask me.

[Ronsc1985]

Two Piece new range ball go about the same as regular two piece balls such as Pinnacle, Top Flite etc. After they have been used for awhile at a commercial range they do deteriorate mostly because the dimples wear down from being picked and washed by some kind of machine which wasn't designed for gentle handling. If you are hiting them ino a net at home then it would take a lot of ball beating to deteriorate quality, new range balls.

As an aside I quit buying different balls for the sim bay. I use Titleist Pro v's, They don't deteriorate at all unless you crack them, which for me takes at least 500-1000 driver hits.
I usually change the ball when the paint fill in the Titleist logo is worn away. Even at this point, unless they develop a crack, the ball speed, spin etc is the same as a new from the box replacement..

[JV17]

I use range balls on the range with the GC2 and high end balls (Pro V or Chrome Soft) in the bay at home. I do see a difference, but not enough to be seriously concerned about as you can figure out what difference using a better ball would make at the range.

[goatbarn]

I crack a new Titliest Pro V usually inside of 100-150 full swing shots. That's way short of 1000 though! I wish I could play a ball for 1000 shots without it cracking.

I think somewhere between 100-200 is normal for a ball to break.

[wbond]

I agree. I'm using maxfli softfli and callaway supersoft and I crack them well short of a 1000 swings. I was wondering if it was because of the compression of the ball playing a factor.

Sorry, slightly off topic of original post.

I crack a new Titliest Pro V usually inside of 100-150 full swing shots. That's way short of 1000 though! I wish I could play a ball for 1000 shots without it cracking.

I think somewhere between 100-200 is normal for a ball to break.

[Ronsc1985]

I crack a new Titliest Pro V usually inside of 100-150 full swing shots. That's way short of 1000 though! I wish I could play a ball for 1000 shots without it cracking.

I think somewhere between 100-200 is normal for a ball to break.

You must have a high swing speed. Mine is 90-93 mph.

I used to crack balls all the time when I had a Vector Pro. After thinking about it for awhile it occurred to me the problem was I was hitting the ball in the same place all the time due to the ball marking requirement. By changing the marking to both sides of the ball the frequency of cracking decreased by about half. If you tend to tee the ball up with the same orientation all the time this may be why you crack them so often.

[goatbarn]

Makes sense for me with the Flightscope. Indoors I have the metallic dot facing screen and am slamming the ball in the same spot every time.

[wbond]

This sounds like it could be my problem. When I use my skytrak, I always place the putting alignment toward the unit so I'm hitting it in the same spot quite often. I don't have a high SS, about 93 give or take a couple mph.

You must have a high swing speed. Mine is 90-93 mph.

I used to crack balls all the time when I had a Vector Pro. After thinking about it for awhile it occurred to me the problem was I was hitting the ball in the same place all the time due to the ball marking requirement. By changing the marking to both sides of the ball the frequency of cracking decreased by about half. If you tend to tee the ball up with the same orientation all the time this may be why you crack them so often.

[Tommyaa]

I think you misunderstood the question, I meant if I go to my local driving range and set up the gc2 and get a bucket of range balls, should I still get pretty much that same number using those range balls to measure my distances etc. I'm thinking it calculates the ball flight from the first inches so before wind etc effects the ball but I don't know if range balls will get shorter distance on the gc2 and ,aye it's an idea to boost the shots for calculation??

[Ronsc1985]

I think you misunderstood the question, I meant if I go to my local driving range and set up the gc2 and get a bucket of range balls, should I still get pretty much that same number using those range balls to measure my distances etc. I'm thinking it calculates the ball flight from the first inches so before wind etc effects the ball but I don't know if range balls will get shorter distance on the gc2 and ,aye it's an idea to boost the shots for calculation??

If you are outdoors at the range why do yoiu need the GC3 to calculate distance, you can see where they land. The GC2 measures ball speed, launch angle azimuth, vertical and horizontal spin period. The carry distance calculation on the GC2 is at one set of ambient conditions, i.e. wind, temperature, air pressure etc. When you go outside if the ambient conditions are the same as the GC2 uses then the results will be pretty much the same. If conditions are different then you get what you get.

If you know what the ambient conditions are, and hardly anyone ever does know the actual numerical values, you can use a program like Trajectoware to compute the carry distance for the launch conditions measured by the GC2.

[Tommyaa]

Because I use it for practice on the outdoor driving range instead of just hitting balls I go with my PC and play a course on it just hitting balls out on the range but looking at the PC that makes it much more fun practicing on the range , but the range balls flies a bit shorter but I don't know how much of that happens in the air, it seems that I get very realistic numbers on the gc2 so maybe using range balls doesn't effect the numbers too much, like if you use trackman it tracks the ball and you really get the range ball distance

[Ronsc1985]

Because I use it for practice on the outdoor driving range instead of just hitting balls I go with my PC and play a course on it just hitting balls out on the range but looking at the PC that makes it much more fun practicing on the range , but the range balls flies a bit shorter but I don't know how much of that happens in the air, it seems that I get very realistic numbers on the gc2 so maybe using range balls doesn't effect the numbers too much, like if you use trackman it tracks the ball and you really get the range ball distance

Seems to me you are chasing your tail. If you are already using a course simulation on your PC at the range then just use whatever it says the ball went. Trying to correlate this with the range balls is pretty much a waste of time since the range balls at a commercial range are all of different quality due simply due to the rather rough handling they receive from the ball picker and washer. You also have the additional problem of the difference between what the ambient weather conditions are at the range and what the simulation program is using. It is very difficult to even tell what the ambient conditions are the range are without good weather measurement equipment. Wind is particularly difficult because the ground level wind velocity and direction may be a lot different then at the height your ball is flying. At least enough different to make the computed and actual ball flight vary significantly.

[Dax]

Goat, on the TM they recommend that the dot not face the unit and so when I practice I put the dot facing the floor with my wedges and the ceiling with my driver (and of course everything in between). This does help with extending the the life of the balls a bit and more importantly my screen.

Makes sense for me with the Flightscope. Indoors I have the metallic dot facing screen and am slamming the ball in the same spot every time.

[Bubba22]

Hey Dax how does the the dot position extend the life of the ball or screen?