FSX 2020 Swing Cameras no Playback

[jasonreg]

1. I have correctly installed this driver for DFK 33UX273 camera.
2. I used a usb3.2 port and am buying a USB PIC to use for the camera.
3. I am using a TetherPro USB 3.0 to Micro B Right Angle cable

All Good.

4. Those instructions were for the Imaging Source App. They are similar to FSX2020 but FSX has much less adjustability IMO.
5. Settings -> Video & Capture

[vutung]

So you really need to play around and see what works for your system but there are a few general principles:

1. Make sure you are using the correct device drivers (Device Driver for USB 33U, 37U, 38U Cameras and DFG/HDMI Converter 5.1.0.1719 (theimagingsource.com))
2. You need to be using USB 3.0 and you need to have each camera on a separate USB Bus. Add a PCI add-in card if required but I use front and rear connectors and this works well for me. Just make sure that you are using USB3.X.
3. Use the proper cables. Some will say that data is data and it either works or not. They may not be wrong but I like to put everything in my favor. I use USB3.0 cable, standard A plug to standard Micro-B plug (with lock screws), length approx. 3.0m direct from Imaging Source
4. I use the Imaging Source Capture program to set the camera settings (IC Capture - Image Acquisition). You can do this directly in FSX2020 but I find this easier for some reason.
5. Remember settings are camera specific. Settings for one camera are not (NOT) automatically used for a second or other cameras. You need to set up each camera separately. But you can save the settings and re-import to a good config if you are tinkering.
6. Resolution of the DFK 33UX273 cameras is 1440 x 1080. Don't try to use resolutions above this and if anything err on the lower (1280 x 1080) side
7. Make sure you are pointing your cameras (and Swing Catalyst) to your GPU. Use Settings -> Video Capture
8. Make sure you are using RGB 32 (or 16) under color space/compression. RGB24 uses 3 x more data and others use different data rates. Use Settings -> Cameras -> Advanced -> Configure -> Video Source Pin (this is also where you set resolution)
9. Enable quick buffering
10. I am able to get 238 FPS but if you are having issues start lower and see where you can top out with your system. Start at 120 FPS (or lower) and go from there.

Good Luck

1. I have correctly installed this driver for DFK 33UX273 camera.
2. I used a usb3.2 port and am buying a USB PIC to use for the camera.
3. I am using a TetherPro USB 3.0 to Micro B Right Angle cable
4. I'm doing it live on FSX2020, can you give me setup information on IC Capture - Image?
5. How to enable fast buffering
Thank you very much, have a nice day.

[jasonreg]

So you really need to play around and see what works for your system but there are a few general principles:

1. Make sure you are using the correct device drivers (Device Driver for USB 33U, 37U, 38U Cameras and DFG/HDMI Converter 5.1.0.1719 (theimagingsource.com))
2. You need to be using USB 3.0 and you need to have each camera on a separate USB Bus. Add a PCI add-in card if required but I use front and rear connectors and this works well for me. Just make sure that you are using USB3.X.
3. Use the proper cables. Some will say that data is data and it either works or not. They may not be wrong but I like to put everything in my favor. I use USB3.0 cable, standard A plug to standard Micro-B plug (with lock screws), length approx. 3.0m direct from Imaging Source
4. I use the Imaging Source Capture program to set the camera settings (IC Capture - Image Acquisition). You can do this directly in FSX2020 but I find this easier for some reason.
5. Remember settings are camera specific. Settings for one camera are not (NOT) automatically used for a second or other cameras. You need to set up each camera separately. But you can save the settings and re-import to a good config if you are tinkering.
6. Resolution of the DFK 33UX273 cameras is 1440 x 1080. Don't try to use resolutions above this and if anything err on the lower (1280 x 1080) side
7. Make sure you are pointing your cameras (and Swing Catalyst) to your GPU. Use Settings -> Video Capture
8. Make sure you are using RGB 32 (or 16) under color space/compression. RGB24 uses 3 x more data and others use different data rates. Use Settings -> Cameras -> Advanced -> Configure -> Video Source Pin (this is also where you set resolution)
9. Enable quick buffering
10. I am able to get 238 FPS but if you are having issues start lower and see where you can top out with your system. Start at 120 FPS (or lower) and go from there.

Good Luck

[vutung]

vutung - the image in post 27 of this thread does not show an error - it shows that the camera is not being used not that the device has an error. I suspect it has something to do with the way you have set up your cameras. Either frame rate or resolution is out of sync with the capabilities of your system. I think you are best to work with the IS help desk to make sure you have things set up correctly. Here is another thread on the topic and I know there are several more if you do a bit of searching on this site: FSX2020 Swing Camera Settings - Golf Simulator Forum

Good Luck,

@jasonreg Thank you, can you give me the settings parameters of the DFK 33UX273 camera on FSX 2020 software?

[jasonreg]

vutung - the image in post 27 of this thread does not show an error - it shows that the camera is not being used not that the device has an error. I suspect it has something to do with the way you have set up your cameras. Either frame rate or resolution is out of sync with the capabilities of your system. I think you are best to work with the IS help desk to make sure you have things set up correctly. Here is another thread on the topic and I know there are several more if you do a bit of searching on this site: FSX2020 Swing Camera Settings - Golf Simulator Forum

Good Luck,

[vutung]

It should work, just have to make sure you choose the correct drivers when doing the install.

Thank you very much, I will try it and see how it goes.

[MongoOnlyPawn]

It should work, just have to make sure you choose the correct drivers when doing the install.

[vutung]

Sorry vutung, I'm just not able to help, my limited skills are showing. I've googled your issue and it might be worthwhile to try and install drivers to that device from device manager. https://knowledge.ni.com/KnowledgeAr...GJ1SAM&l=en-US

Have you tried swapping the cameras to see if it affects both cameras?

Does Swing Catalyst see both cameras?

I hate to say this, but I think you need to get in touch with Foresight to see if they can help.

On swing catalyst software, those two cameras work fine, only when used on FSX software does it fail.
I sent an email to foresight asking for help but to no avail.
I'm very sad and don't know how to deal with it.
https://knowledge.ni.com/KnowledgeAr...GJ1SAM&l=en-US Does this method work for the DFK 33UX273 camera?

[MongoOnlyPawn]

Sorry vutung, I'm just not able to help, my limited skills are showing. I've googled your issue and it might be worthwhile to try and install drivers to that device from device manager. https://knowledge.ni.com/KnowledgeAr...GJ1SAM&l=en-US

Have you tried swapping the cameras to see if it affects both cameras?

Does Swing Catalyst see both cameras?

I hate to say this, but I think you need to get in touch with Foresight to see if they can help.

[vutung]

Not sure what to tell you, I've gone over everything I could think of except for one thing: heat. Could it be getting hot and locking everything up? When you say the camera freezes, does everything else work? Can you browse the web, send email, write on notepad?

Everything still works normally, I used a water cooler for the CPU and opened the processes to check everything was fine.
When the camera freezes, the FSX software can still be used normally, only the camera freezes.
I'll try inserting a USB pic card to split the camera and see how it goes.
I sent you a picture showing the usb3 vision device (unused). Do you have the same error as me? Is there any way to fix the error?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vpKY17O06G7Ztx-TLLXyOUZEb4Qkm8FL/view?usp=sharing

[MongoOnlyPawn]

Not sure what to tell you, I've gone over everything I could think of except for one thing: heat. Could it be getting hot and locking everything up? When you say the camera freezes, does everything else work? Can you browse the web, send email, write on notepad?

[vutung]

Not sure what you mean by FSX monitor, but are you using 2 0r 3 monitors? FSX sometimes has issues matching what to display if there are multiple monitors. If you can use 2 displays, could you set your Windows settings for multiple monitors, run FSX driving range on one, and Swing Catalyst on the other?

Got to get some errands done now, but I'll check back in later today. I wish you well, tech can be very frustrating when it doesn't work.

I only use one projector screen to run the FSX software, sometimes I use swing catalyst on the other screen.
But when I use only one FSX software on one projector screen, my camera still freezes.
Thank you very much, have a nice day!

[MongoOnlyPawn]

Not sure what you mean by FSX monitor, but are you using 2 0r 3 monitors? FSX sometimes has issues matching what to display if there are multiple monitors. If you can use 2 displays, could you set your Windows settings for multiple monitors, run FSX driving range on one, and Swing Catalyst on the other?

Got to get some errands done now, but I'll check back in later today. I wish you well, tech can be very frustrating when it doesn't work.

[vutung]

That's a top notch MB. You are trying to run 2 cameras, correct? Do you have usb ports on the front or top of your case? If you do, is the tab inside blue? The blue tab usually signifies USB 3.0 or better. If you've got blue tabs, I'd plug one cable into the front and one into the back (with a blue tab) that should put them on a different "bus" on the MB. You might want to try installing the drivers from Imaging Source?

I used the blue USB port but it's all on the back, I'll try using the front port camera.
I download the camera driver from here: https://www.theimagingsource.com/en-...3u/dfk33ux273/
Primarily I use an FSX monitor.

[MongoOnlyPawn]

Also, are you using more than one monitor/projector on FSX?