Closure rate How are these data to be interpreted ??

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  • AimforPain
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 16

    #1

    Closure rate How are these data to be interpreted ??

    Hi,

    I have a question about the closure rate,

    - What does this number mean
    - How is this number influenced in the golf swing
    - What is a good value in comparison?


    I have only found this explanation so far,​

    Closure Rate
    The rotation of the club head heel to toe measured about the shaft in degrees per second or rpm.

    Many Thanks

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  • Ronsc1985
    Super Member
    • Feb 2015
    • 648

    #2
    It's commonly called face rotation The faster face rotation you have the harder it is to hit it straight since faster closure rates require better hand eye timing. If you are starting the ball straight then don't worry about it. If not then consider trying to decrease your hand action. There is no magic number. It all depends on your timing and consistency in said timing. Probably the best ball striker ever, Mo Norman, had very little face rotation just prior to and after ball contact.

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    • delaloi
      Advanced Member
      • Oct 2017
      • 312

      #3
      Ronsc has it right. In the interest of consistency generally you'd like to see the rotation number lower rather than higher (fast rotation probably means you are pretty flippy with your hands), but there are good players who just time it up well.

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      • StalefishFS3
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2019
        • 186

        #4
        Yes, the rotation number is technically "better" when it is lower, i.e. 1500 is better than 3000. But, and a big but, the real key is having your closure rate in a consistent range for all shots.

        Unlike me who could have a closure rate of 1000 on one shot, and 3200 on the next.

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        • Tom Howarth
          Senior Member
          • May 2020
          • 172

          #5
          I'm really impressed with the 158 MPH club head speed. Is this Kyle Berkshire posting?

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          • tlrcash
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2020
            • 113

            #6
            Originally posted by Tom Howarth View Post
            I'm really impressed with the 158 MPH club head speed. Is this Kyle Berkshire posting?
            Looks like it’s in kilometers.

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            • Tom Howarth
              Tom Howarth commented
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              Ah ha. That makes sense.
          • AimforPain
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2023
            • 16

            #7
            Hello everyone,

            Thank you very much for the feedback, that helps me.
            Interesting, so the smaller the number, the calmer the hands at the moment of impact.

            Yes, there are kilometres, I am in Germany. Miles would be intense

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            • Yrrdead81
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2016
              • 127

              #8
              Just to add on. There is almost no correlation between closure rate and ability that I have seen. Though it would seem that a lower number would be "better" this hasn't been shown to be the case.

              Literally the last metric you should worry about.

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              • Dbchaplin03
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2021
                • 11

                #9
                Does this software show you the low point in front or behind the ball? I ordered a Bushnell Launch Pro but haven’t received it yet.

                I also ordered the Skytrak + and haven’t received it because I had regrets about the Bushnell/GC3 since I’ll be using it outside with an iPad and most of the Foresight software is for a PC vs an iPad. I don’t think either of them show low point but I wanted to ask.

                Still trying to decide which one to keep and which to return so if you have any advice as owners of Foresight products I welcome your feedback.

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                • AimforPain
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2023
                  • 16

                  #10
                  Not sure about low point... What i have found,
                  A negative attack angle indicates that the lowest point in the swing arc is after impact (maximum compression).​
                  A positive attack angle indicates that the lowest point in the swing arc is before impact (maximum compression).​

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