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I currently use a r10. I've been casually looking to upgrade to a camera-based system. My? is about the resale values. Is a gc2 with hmt really worth 5500$ or so. Newer units like the gc3/blp, skytrack, eye mini can be in similar price range. I see used skytracks for sale for 800$ at 2nd swing, factory refurbished gc3 for 5 k . Am I missing something ?
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$5,500 is about the current price for GC2 & HMT. Prices have come down from years past. It is "older" tech compared to the new launch monitors but it does give you the same ball and club data as a Quad. -
GC3 doesn't measure face angle, loft & lie, impact location. HMT does. Big difference.Comment
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Thanx for the insight !Comment
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Unless you need the portability of the Quad/GC3, with the current prices of the GC2/HMT, it's better bang for your buck because it gives you all the data that a Quad with clubhead data ($18K). Accuracy difference between Quad is negligible.
Of course I say this as someone that DID upgrade from GC2/HMT to Quad purely for the portability because my new living situation is forcing me to hit balls outside for a while.
And MY GC2/HMT will be on the market soon.
Just got it back from Foresight where it had the LED boards replaced. The originals lasted me almost 10 years so it should be good for a while.
Only other consumable is the flash which can be easily purchased and swapped out and they seem to last forever.
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Mine is for sale as well (GC2/HMT), and yes, 5500 is probably the fair price for a well-working set (mine is). Individually (i.e. a GC2 only) they are probably a little more depending on age of the units. So a GC2 can range anywhere from 2000 - 3000, an HMT ranging from 2500 - 3500. HMTs are much more rare -- under 2800 were ever made.
There are two major benefits to the GC2/HMT: first, unless you are close to scratch, you simply will not notice the difference between GC2/HMT data and Quad data. Quad has tighter tolerances, but for a hacker like me, GC2/HMT is a Quad. If you only use it inside and don't need portability, other than it not being as "sexy" as a Quad, you won't notice a bit of difference.
The second benefit is given the way things are going in the software world, there are no subscription fees. And never will be. So when you own it, you are only paying the subscription for the software you are using, not a subscription for the hardware (example: BLP). And you do not need anymore the overpriced FSX software from Foresight. There are way better options now for that.
The downside: GC2s and HMTs are getting old. You will need to likely rely on 3rd parties to repair, but Andy on these boards is very reasonable and can repair a lot of things on a GC2. Foresight WILL repair it, but they have stated if you need to send it to them, it could be months before they can get to it because they are designated "end of life". I think that is a misnomer because GC2s are very well made and lots of us can and will continue to use them happily for years to come.Comment
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Great info, thanx for the insight. Another question, when a gc2 is purchased used, what else is required to use for simulation? Just the chosen software? Transfer fee etc.? Is the old fr1 software ok just to get started? I would think the computer requirements would not be as important as the newer software.Comment
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When you buy a GC2 from somebody else, you don't need to pay a transfer fee for the GC2 hardware. The GC2 will be registered with Foresight under someone's name. It may not even be registered under the person you are buying it from. The only reason to pay the $500 to Foresight to put the GC2 in your name would be if you had to send it in for repair. But as stated earlier, Andy can often repair things instead of Foresight if needed. Many many people are using GC2s that are registered under someone else's name.
A GC2 is wide open because it connects by Bluetooth. So you can use whatever software you want: TGC2019, GSPro or even FSX2020 or FSXPlay. You do NOT need FR1, FSX2018, FSX2020 or Play to use GC2. In fact, that is now usually not the preferred method. TGC2019 or GSPro or E6 are the preferred software(s). So you would buy the software from those particular software companies, install it on your computer, and away you go.
The one thing you would be incorrect on is the computer requirements. In order, these are the most to least demanding software for simulation play: GSPro, FSXPlay, TGC2019, E6 then FSX2020. GSPro in particular, especially the newer courses, really needs a high-end gaming computer to run it. And that depends on whether you want to run it in 4K, or just 1080p. The GPU is the most critical piece of hardware for an acceptable simulation experience.Comment
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Thanx! After a couple years on this forum and others my brain is filled with so much info it's tough to keep things straight in my feeble mind! thanx againComment
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