FSX PLAY v1.9.2.5 Released today

[jasonreg]

FSX Play | Foresight Sports

FSX PLAY v1.9.2.5:

• Various Bug Fixes & Improvements

Anyone update as yet? Fingers crossed.

[TimE]

After downloading I don't have an option to change graphics settings. Does anyone have any ideas. I put in a Foresight ticket 2 days ago but haven't heard back yet.

[siebo]

I always call them because I want to talk to the tech people. Sometimes it takes a while and other times it is pretty quick. I called yesterday about the mulligan problem and it took about 5 minutes for them to come on the phone. They are short a lot of people because of the holiday so that may be the reason they haven’t replied to your ticket. I was told they will contact me next week about the mulligan Issue when they are back to a full staff

[tkvaughn999]

Have you checked in the general settings? Not in setting when starting round/practice?

[jasonreg]

After downloading I don't have an option to change graphics settings. Does anyone have any ideas. I put in a Foresight ticket 2 days ago but haven't heard back yet.

I always default to uninstall and re-install. Make sure any 3rd Party Aint-Virus/Firewall is turned off for the install - I have noticed that Foresight software does not play well with these programs. Worth a shot perhaps.

[ENadeau]

After downloading I don't have an option to change graphics settings. Does anyone have any ideas. I put in a Foresight ticket 2 days ago but haven't heard back yet.

I’ve been troubleshooting issues with the latest update all week and took a look at this. I can see the Display menu but I took a deeper dive into the settings and it looks like I’m unable to change the resolution in game. That one dropdown is locked for me when previously it was not.

[ENadeau]

I’ve completed 4 fresh uninstalls at this point, completely removing everything Foresight related including hidden files and folders and app and program data as well as blowing out Registry entries. Prior to the 4th install I completely rebuilt the PC with a fresh Windows image.

Still running into random bugs including the vertical data tiles not displaying, adding players to Favorites is locked and overwriting entries and player names in game overwrite after a mulligan/rehit/drop (this is happening to a bunch of people), and a few other small things which have been reoccurring on each re-install.

I’ve gone ahead and reverted back to version 1.8.4.2 which has remedied almost all issues. Foresight support has been responsive over the holidays but they did mention that their tech team is off until Jan 2nd. I’m fairly tech savvy and running a PC above min specs (13th gen i9, 32gb ram, 1tb SSD, NVidia 3090) and at 1080p and am chalking this up to a poorly released version.

The big draw for me with going to Foresight was how clean their software looked and it was not subscription based as I prefer to buy and own official courses/software outright. I’m almost at the point of looking at GSPro…

[MongoOnlyPawn]

You should try GSPro sooner rather than later. Other than some "elite" courses, which you have to purchase, I don't think FSX Play offers anything GSPro doesn't. For me, it just works. Significant help available on Discord channel. They do have a refund policy, I think it's 7 days.

[ARL67]

Why would Foresight release an update during the Christmas / New Years season when they may be short-staffed.
As I just got my GC3 in late October, I thought I'd stick with FSX Play until I got tired of the courses, but maybe I need to jump onto GS Pro sooner than later as poster above suggested, and many others.

[siebo]

I have GSPro as well and have had no issues with the software. I can run 4K on Ultra and it works great. That being said, I still like the graphics better on GSXPlay and i keep hoping they can get their shit together. We all have payed a lot of money to Foresight and I still feel we haven’t gotten our moneys worth. Most of us are still owed courses and for almost two years since FSXPlay was released, they still have major issues. My computer knowledge is limited. I can turn it off and on, download programs and sometimes solve minor issues. I’m assuming a lot of time goes into developing software. Can someone explain to me why GSPro has no issues(at least with me) and Foresight has so many? Are their program developers just that bad? I have a theory that the programmers at Foresight have no golf knowledge while the ones at GSPro do and that makes a big difference. Sorry about letting off some steam but Foresight can do that to me.

[jasonreg]

So, I have a very un-technical, more of an observation than explanation. Through some testing and swapping out a few different versions of GPUs over the past few months I think the issue is the way and the amount of reliance on the RAM on the GPU FSX Play is using over GSPro. I started with an RTX2080Super which had served me well for the past 4-5 years. FSX2020, Swing Catalyst and GSPro all played at highest graphics settings. Even FSX Play when it first arrived played well, though I had to lower to high or medium graphics. Since the Spring, FSX Play started to get very jumpy and I need to be often on the lowest settings to get above 30 FPS - what is considered minimum for not seeing the stuttering or jumping. And even GSPro - which runs much better than FSX Play - some of the newer courses released in the past 6 months were needing a lower graphics setting.

When I added an RTX4060Ti (16GB Version), I immediately saw an increase in FPS and could play any GSPro course at ULTRA and most FSX Play courses in at least medium if not high with > 30-45 FPS. Thing is, I really should not have seen such a big increase given if you compare the two cards they are essentially equal in performance: UserBenchmark: Nvidia RTX 2080S (Super) vs 4060-Ti. When I replaced the RTX 4060Ti with an RTX4080 (again 16GB VRAM) I could play any course at Ultra settings in both Play and GSPro.

What I think it comes down to is the level of detail in the course design. Trees, grass, wind effects on water etc. all gobble up on-board memory on the GPU and when that is saturated the RAM in the computer itself. The pipe between the GPU and the computer (GPU memory interface and PCI bus) also makes a huge difference - it is double (256-bit) in the RTX4080 vs 4060Ti (128 Bit) and the 4080 also has twice as much L2 cache. All that to say, this is not going away and the more realistic the courses are designed the higher requirements we will see from a GPU.

To your question, I believe FSX Play places higher demand on the GPU VRAM directly than does GSPro though you will notice that some of the more recent courses in GSPro are using more and more VRAM. With respect to the general bugginess of FSX Play, this is just sloppy programming and lack of proper Beta testing in my view. I think they (Foresight) have not invested in enough resources in their software design department and are paying the price. They are fixing bug A and releasing an update without realizing how it now generates bugs B, C and D.....This is a bit of an over-generalization but you get the point. I emphasize that I have not direct info - my opinions only based on personal testing and observation.

[Golfcrzy]

To me, Play courses feel significantly heavier than GSPro, with not a whole heckuva lot of distinction in quality. I’d bet dollars to donuts the GSPro community tests their courses more thoroughly than Foresight for performance on first release, and the builders are aware of methodologies that can lower the weight of the course packages. Having participated in that community, I’m impressed by the quality and progress old and new builders are making, and the tools they’re using are improving.

I think I bought one FSX course this year, Valderrama, and that was only because it included Awesome Golf Lifetime for free ($350 value), which is what I really wanted. Now I’ve got 50 FSX courses I don’t play.