Syncing shot values between Protee software and gc2

[Lonniegolf]

Hi everyone, I have set up Protee and tgc software with my gc2 and the carry distances on iron shots are 5-10 yards longer in Protee and tgc than what my gc2 shows. Is there a list of settings to match the software values with those of the gc2? I've searched everywhere on this site and haven't found anything . Please help!
Thanks

[mthunt]

Open GSX, select settings I think and there's sliders. That's where you can tweek.

[Lonniegolf]

Thanks I thought there might be a general list of settings that was developed

[Craig118]

Hi everyone, I have set up Protee and tgc software with my gc2 and the carry distances on iron shots are 5-10 yards longer in Protee and tgc than what my gc2 shows. Is there a list of settings to match the software values with those of the gc2? I've searched everywhere on this site and haven't found anything . Please help!
Thanks

You can Increase your ball drag settings for each club in the Protee interface to decrease distance.

[Lonniegolf]

Thanks I'll do that

[Dax]

Are you taking readings right off your gc2? If yes, then are is Protee set at same elevation?

[Lonniegolf]

Yes, I'll check thanks

[mthunt]

You can Increase your ball drag settings for each club in the Protee interface to decrease distance.

Craig, I always thought those setting were only for ProTee hardware. Do they work for a GC2 as well?

[mthunt]

Lonnie, I forgot to mention that you should make sure you're using the recommended GC2 firmware (3.5), current GSX version and current TGC version. When TGC first came out the ball was going too far.

[Lonniegolf]

Thanks, I'll check the firmware, I just updated it last week. I downloaded the tgc and gsx two weeks ago. I have two versions of gsx one shortcut is green and says gsx and the othe says gsx2 and is blue. Which one is recommended?

[mthunt]

GC2- 3.5.1.1
GSX- 0.6.7
TGC- 2.8

If you don't have those 3, start there.

[ks-man]

My GC2 has 3.10.0.0. It is pretty new. No idea what is different between the firmware versions.

[mthunt]

Go to "ProTee Edge Range - Autumn". It's pretty flat. The carry numbers should be pretty close to the GC2. I find a draw will carry a couple of yards less than the gc2 readout and a fade a couple of more. Straight is pretty close. If you're more than 4 or 5 yards high on the software than the gc2, then I suggest switching to 3.5. Make sure the sliders in GSX are all set to zero. If what you get is 3-4 yards high and that's an issue for you, go into GSX under the Protee tab and adjust away. I'm currious to know what you're getting with 3.10 with sliders at 0. Please post.

Just in case the carry is shown on the readout screen just hit "I" on your keyboard.

[ks-man]

Would you recommend a specific club to use or do you see the same results on all of them? Separately I started a thread about my questionable carry distances. My current ones are just below Optimal Flight but reasonably close. I e-mailed Foresight and they confirmed that the older firmware was generous with carry distances and the newer firmware "had been adjusted to match closer to what our tour players would expect".

I'm not sure what version that started with.

[Cklguy2013]

Hey Guys,

Interesting discussion on the Protee numbers. I recently zeroed my numbers right in on my Protee, it took a bit of work to do but I'm now very happy with my ball speeds and carry distances. I was fortunate enough to be on a Trackman a few times back in the fall. When on the Trackman I had my ES12 set up to check out how it stacked up ball speed wise and found it to be within 1 mph consistently. With the ball speed numbers, my Trackman report and some general knowledge of my carry distances, I tweaked the ball speed, and drag numbers in the interface to get the desired results. I now have VERY accurate numbers coming off my Protee.

The next order of business is the center of contact on my Hybrid, which I have to default to the 5 wood in Protee, on centered hits it is tell me that, I'm .39 Inches off, which I know isn't correct.

[mthunt]

We are talking about TGC here. I'm not sure if you're aware but TGC is not supported by Foresight. TGC works better with 3.5. I'm not sure about foresight software. If you're numbers are close on 3.10, use it. If your sliders are all 0 and on a flat range the numbers are within a few yards, leave it. Use a 7 iron. Don't be afraid to post your numbers.

[ks-man]

We are talking about TGC here. I'm not sure if you're aware but TGC is not supported by Foresight. TGC works better with 3.5. I'm not sure about foresight software. If you're numbers are close on 3.10, use it. If your sliders are all 0 and on a flat range the numbers are within a few yards, leave it. Use a 7 iron. Don't be afraid to post your numbers.

I think you're talking to me about this. I realize you are talking about TGC. Does TGC use the carry distances from the GC2 or do they just take the ball speed, spins and azimuth and do their own calculations? I'd imagine it must take more than just those numbers otherwise I would guess the firmware shouldn't matter. I would doubt the firmware would change any of the measured speeds or spins although I guess you never know.

Also, if I wanted to downgrade the firmware from 3.10.0.0 to 3.5.1.1, how would I go about doing that? I'll post my numbers later or tomorrow. At work right now so I can't hit and with two young kids I'm not sure when I'll get a chance to. I'll go to the Autumn Range and test it out though.

[goatbarn]

Of course TGC has to just take the data from the unit and not the carry, since we're talking about simulated golf courses that change in elevation/wind...etc.

I wouldn't think the firmware version would matter unless they're tweaking how their data parameters are being calculated from the images.

The ball flight algorithm is TGC's, not anything to do with foresight.

[mthunt]

KS, yes, talking to you. You called Foresight about TGC. They won't be able to help. Most GC2/ TGC users are having success with 3.5. It works great. TGC takes the spin, ball speed ect to determine distance. Elevations effect distance. Try that range 8 iron draw my gc2 was 2 yards more than TGC. Fade was 2-3 yards more And straight was the same. I use 3.5 plus the the GSX and TGC versions I posted. If you see different distances, I suggest 3.5. It's a program that executes the firmware. Easy and quick.

[davray666]

I have firmware. 3.7.0, also works great for sim play over Bluetooth.

[ks-man]

I didn't contact Foresight about TGC. I e-mailed them about my numbers using my GC2 compared to a GC2 at Golftec. The software at Golftec was the older FSS software. Foresight led me to believe the firmware changed the carry numbers that the readout of the GC2 shows. I couldn't see the readout at Golftec when I did my comparison since it was hooked up via USB so I took the numbers off the screen. I don't know if the guy from Foresight said firmware when he truly meant software so I don't know if the firmware changed the carry distance or if it just is something with the software.

I did do the 7-iron tests but am still compiling everything. I'll post it a little later.

[ks-man]

I hit my 7-iron five different times and then took a picture of my GC2 readout and the analysis screen on TGC. I did the first four shots on the ProTee Edge Autumn Distance Range and the last one on the ProTee Edge Autumn Pin Range. Virtually all the shots had light carry distances on TGC vs. the GC2 readout and also the Optimal Flight calculated carry distance. The fourth and fifth shot were particularly bad. I'm running firmware 3.10.0.0 and I can try downgrading it to 3.5.1.1 (assuming I can get a copy). The problem doesn't appear though to be the numbers being past to TGC as you can see the measurements are all good, it is just the carry distances that are bad. For TGC I had auto-rewind turned on so it was calculating as if the ball was "teed-up". I hit directly from my mat rather than actually teeing it up. Here is a folder withe all the pictures in case anybody wants to see the rest of the TGC calculated numbers.

mthunt - any chance you can pm me a copy of 3.5.1.1?
davray666 - could you send me 3.7.0 if you have it? I'd like to try and keep a copy of all the older firmware versions in case I ever need it.

I'll probably first try 3.5.1.1 since most people seem to have success with it. Thanks a lot!

[Bruce]

ks-man you can play around with this forever but it will never be the same. All 3 products are using a different algorithm. E6 and other game products also have their own algorithm.

TGC, E6 and others also have penalty systems implemented and don't forget there is simulated weather. I recommend to have some fun and play outside whenever possible.