GC2 not picking up wedge shots.

[mthunt]

A while back my buddy bought new Volkey wedges in satin. Shots from 80-100 were not registering more than they were. I had the same wedges in Chrome with no issues. He ended up buying new wedges.

Now, my chrome wedge is having the same issue. It's a piss off when you hit 3 in a row with nothing. Has anyone had this? Is there a fix? My flash is only 3 months old.

[andygg1986]

Not sure if this will help, but most of my shots that don't register occur when the ball is closest to the GC2. I notice it more with short shots than full swing wedges, but you might try positioning the ball on the edge of the hitting zone farthest from the unit.

[Ronsc1985]

The only time my GC2 has ever missed anything was when the GC2 base was at a different level then the hitting surface. What I have noticed is if you are on the edge of the hitting box, it will occasionally lose contact. This is easy to do if the ball moves at all before you hit it by grounding the club, slightly touching the ball etc. You will probably not notice the green light going off if you do this.

What always works is when I am using the FR 1.3 software which puts the box right on the screen. Since you are looking "down range" it is easy to see if the ball slides out of the detection box as the box reappears back on the screen. When you are in the box the graphic disappears.

What always works is if you get the ball close to the middle of the box if the GC2 is at ground level. This eliminates missed shots for both off the mat and teed up balls (I usually have the ball almost above the crown of a white R15 driver).

[mthunt]

I talked to Foresight today. They say likely the flash. It's new. They said the super flash is stronger. Mine is in the same spot as its been for 2 years. It's level.

[FaultyClubs]

Did they think it was reasonable that you only got 3 months of home use out of your flash? Are they giving you a new one?

What warranty comes with the better flash? $500 US is about $750 C$ for a $5 flash. That is criminally insane! I would at least expect a lifetime warranty at that price...for as long as you, and maybe your children, own the GC2! Lol

[andygg1986]

So are they saying you need to buy the new $500 flash? I'm hoping someone comes up with an alternative before my flash dies because that price seems insane.

[goatbarn]

Yeah it's crazy how much they're charging for flashes. People are trying to figure out DIY ways of replacing the exhausted xexon tubes, but it seems a crap shoot so far with the quality of tubes available to the general public. I believe someone has their DIY flash repair working for over 2k shots now tho...

I'll take having to replace it myself every 2 months vs $500 with no warranty for a new "super" flash.

[Mxwoodman]

Have you seen the Super Flash Pro Rata Warranty? This is just crazy I have had my Flash for two years and its still working and I have one spare.

At $500 it should have a min 2-3 year warranty not sure what's up with these guys

Guess shirking market and low cash flow just find ways to screw the customers

[Ronsc1985]

If you need a new lash unit contact par2pro. I bought a new flash unit (the 150 model )a couple of months ago and they had just got in a new shipment. This was after someone on this board reported they were no longer available per a conversation with a Foresight rep. The 500 unit and it's warranty is probably geared to commercial installations which run all day every day.

[FaultyClubs]

Can you please tell us the part number and revision number of the flash you bought and confirm it was from the new shipment and not old stock?

It would be useful to establish whether indeed it is a different flash than previously. Don't want to compound myth with rumors! Lol

[FaultyClubs]

Someone reported that new cheaper flash is supposedly a "limited life" flash designed as a temporary measure until they got their new super flash in production.

If the life is really less than the old standard one or even less reliable then it's the worst deal of all!

For you guys that buy it please keep a record of how long it lasts and number of swings. It will be up to us to figure out if it is OK to use.

Maybe now we know why Foresight removed the flash counter a few firmware version ago! Seems maybe they knew this was coming...

EDIT:. Ooops, this was supposed to be a comment on ronsc post just above.

[Ronsc1985]

6700-0535 Rev I. It wasn't old stock at par2pro since they were out of stock when I initially ordered and the new shipment took about two weeks to arrive at their facility

[ShootingLow]

Is the GC2 picking up driver or mid iron and just missing wedges?

[FaultyClubs]

Thanks ronsc. So it's a new version alright. The so called 'limited life' version. Here's the warranty for that:

'This Flash Module is a spare and does not include a
manufacturer’s warranty period. This is intended to be used in the case that your Super Flash module expires and should only be used to maintain use of the GC2 device while awaiting a new Super Flash module to arrive. Please be advised that no replacement will be offered in the case that the spare expires.'

[Ronsc1985]

Thanks ronsc. So it's a new version alright. The so called 'limited life' version. Here's the warranty for that:

'This Flash Module is a spare and does not include a
manufacturer’s warranty period. This is intended to be used in the case that your Super Flash module expires and should only be used to maintain use of the GC2 device while awaiting a new Super Flash module to arrive. Please be advised that no replacement will be offered in the case that the spare expires.'

How do you know it is the so called limited life version? The module currently in my GC2 is a rev H and the one previous was a rev F. They all have the same part number. It was not sold to me as the limited life version by Par2 pro. They have changed revision numbers many times over the last few years. This is common in the electronics industry when a supplier or batch number for an internal part changes.

As to the warranty the previous modules had no warranty either, only a statement of how long they may last.

I really doubt the so called "limited life" is any different then the prior to Super Flash models. Having disassembled the rev F, I can assure you there is little assembly cost that can be changed since the only thing in there is a trigger transformer and a flash tube. The board, connector, IR pass filter etc. will have to be the same to fit into the case. The flash tube is about a 5 USD item.

The warranty on the super flash is obviously geared to commercial usage that are run all day every day. Since my former flash module lasted 2 years after I bought it used, if a super flash actually lasts 6 times as long it would probably outlast me.

[FaultyClubs]

It's called limited life because with the Rev I change the warranty changed to the wording listed above.

It is unquestionably different than previous models because the revision changed.

I don't think anyone (except Foresight) knows if the current version is a reliable as older versions (Rev F and older). Something triggered the rapid Rev H to Rev I change and also the warranty wording change. Hopefully you are correct and it is benign. As users all we can do is track the statistics and see how it pans out.

You're probably correct the warranties are geared to commercial use. I haven't heard if Foresight will unofficially warranty short lived units in home use. That would be useful to know given the short life some get.

MT what version was yours that lasted only a couple months? How many swings would you estimate?

[Ronsc1985]

It's called limited life because with the Rev I change the warranty changed to the wording listed above.

It is unquestionably different than previous models because the revision changed.

I don't think anyone (except Foresight) knows if the current version is a reliable as older versions (Rev F and older). Something triggered the rapid Rev H to Rev I change and also the warranty wording change. Hopefully you are correct and it is benign. As users all we can do is track the statistics and see how it pans out.

You're probably correct the warranties are geared to commercial use. I haven't heard if Foresight will unofficially warranty short lived units in home use. That would be useful to know given the short life some get.

MT what version was yours that lasted only a couple months? How many swings would you estimate?

I have a revision H in my GC2 currently. It has been running since last fall. When it stops working I'll take it apart and compare to the earlier F model. To assume modules with different revision numbers are less reliable is pure speculation. As to warranty, I repeat again, they never had a warranty. Did anyone actually get a new module by complaining about short life. As I remember a previous person who tried this got the condolences of the management and a new module for the usual $150.

You seem to be hung up on the limited life description by Foresight. What else would they call it when trying to market their 500 dollar "super" module? A better question might be what module does one receive if you buy a new GC2. Previously they provided a spare with a new purchase.

Actually time warranties on these modules is not very definitive since the thing that apparently affects the lifetime is the timing and total amount of flashes. In a commercial setting this may have meaning but for a home user it is vague if for no other reason then the flash count depends on what you are using it for. In my case since although I play course simulations to practice I never putt, (use auto putt in FR1), my flash count is less then someone who putts during the simulations.

Aside from all that since these modules are so easy to take apart (heat gun and a utility or exacto knife) anyone with basic soldering skills could replace the flash bulb. There are several people screwing around with doing this. I'd do it except I have a working module and a new backup up of possibly uncertain flash count life. Hopefully someone will have a part number and a source for a suitable flash bulb replacement by the time I have the need. If not I'll have to start looking. .

[mthunt]

Is the GC2 picking up driver or mid iron and just missing wedges?

Never misses anything but my 52 degree wedge on less than full shots.