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  • onehandicap
    Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 97

    #1

    HMT Question

    I just received my HMT. Does anyone who has one know whether the club path reading is really club path or is it swing direction? I ask because the following doesn't make sense as to how the ball spins left on heel strike with club face open to target (and path since path is 0). I think I understand it starting left due to the heel strike...but everything I know about ball flight laws tells be this ball should curve right, not left...unless club path on the foresight is really swing direction and not path (which would be right of the swing direction given the downward angle of attack).

  • mmlincon
    Extreme Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 901

    #2
    My understanding and I could be wrong is the path is relative to the direction the GC2 is pointing. Just like the ball. Was this recorded with a single dot or a full dot pattern? A toe up could explain the left direction in this case. It's pretty minor though. When you start seeing numbers that don't look right start looking at the lie angles because they maybe the cause.

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    • onehandicap
      Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 97

      #3
      Full dot capture. Does anyone know what f-axis is in the IPad app? I occasionally see a positive f-axis with a negative spin-axis.

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      • Point280
        Point280 commented
        Editing a comment
        Found this on the Foresight website:

        F-AXIS

        The perpendicular axis measured relative to the directional path that the golf ball rolls or slides up the club face; in a typical shot where ball impact is centered on the club, the F-Axis and Spin-Tilt Axis should coincide.
    • RCorsa
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 150

      #4
      If you use FSX it give you club to target line data and face angle to both target and path.

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      • Mozza
        Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 30

        #5
        I have an in to out swing path with an open face to swing path and a centre strike and hit a draw. I put that down to the fact the figures are giving just before impact. By the time you factor in closure rate the club face will be closed by the time the ball leaves the face. Therefore as a fast swinger and a high closure rate the face will always be more closed when the ball leaves the face than the figures state in the HMT

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        • LEO MODE
          Super Member
          • May 2017
          • 646

          #6
          Originally posted by onehandicap View Post
          I just received my HMT. Does anyone who has one know whether the club path reading is really club path or is it swing direction? I ask because the following doesn't make sense as to how the ball spins left on heel strike with club face open to target (and path since path is 0). I think I understand it starting left due to the heel strike...but everything I know about ball flight laws tells be this ball should curve right, not left...unless club path on the foresight is really swing direction and not path (which would be right of the swing direction given the downward angle of attack).
          I’m curious about this as well. Can the camera capture swing direction? Swing plane and swing direction is something that I’m wondering about if camera could capture this. Swing direction has a lot of correlation to the club path and attack angle so I’m assuming this can be calculated relatively simply if GC doesn’t have it. I am also wondering about F-axis definition as well. Closing Rate is definitely something the radar doesn’t have which could be a valuable tool for instance. I just met a PGA Tour professional and it seemed like he focused a lot on Swing Direction so I’m sure that should be a must parameter for any launch monitor.

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          • Snaphook
            Advanced Member
            • Dec 2014
            • 324

            #7
            My guess is also the closure rate.

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            • mthunt
              Ultimate Member
              • Aug 2014
              • 4746

              #8
              The HMT and quad read everything including path. Rate of closure is cool too. I believe f axis iss the ball not the club.
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              • Youngsun Kim
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2018
                • 14

                #9
                club path is vector direction on impact. swing direction corelate with angle of attack and swing plane.

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