Havasu Falls Golf Club

[enef56]

All 4 days are posted now

[Ironstrokes]

Published Friday version last week and Saturday this weekend, Saturday has rain with softer fairways and greens, don't know if you guys get rain or you can override it but if it gets a little dark wait a few secs until the clouds pass

Yea, luckily with the new update we recently got we can adjust the time of day and all, so should be able to make it nice and sunny. I'll definitely be giving it ag go with the different tees

[enef56]

Published Friday version last week and Saturday this weekend, Saturday has rain with softer fairways and greens, don't know if you guys get rain or you can override it but if it gets a little dark wait a few secs until the clouds pass

[rsuslow]

I've started one a hundred times only to do it over (on PS4). Maybe one day I'll finish it. Much respect to these guys for their attention to detail on every yard of every course they create.

[MainStGolf]

Thanks!!!!!

[Ironstrokes]

What follow camera view are you using in the game? And what is your delay timer set at. Seems you've found a pretty good combination of watching your ball sail out and then landing. I like it!

Can't remember what follow camera its called, but know it was whatever one came with the new update and I go with a 2.5 second delay. Tried 4.5 seconds as some had mentioned and just felt a little too long for my liking so went back to the 2.5

[Ironstrokes]

Thanks for the comments FaultyClubs, I understand what your saying but it's very difficult to get the views of the course just right, I havent designed any of my courses specifically for the pro tee, I believe you can shut the wind off etc: when I design a hole I play it 20 to 30 times using driver 3-4 woods maybe a 3 iron to try to replicate the landing area, also play the course with wind over several weeks offline in the designer to try and play it in all wind strengths and directions, but it's impossible to get that perfect view from a 60 to 80 yard area that the ball could land in depending whether it's into or with the wind and the individual length of every Pro Tee user, I put as many things out of view as I do in view for just that occasion you slice or block a shot into no mans land, I can spend an evening designing something that can only be seen in the two second portion of the flyover of the hole, I am aware but it's impossible to cover every position. As in previous posts to IronStrokes although I haven't designed specifically for Pro Tee I think you will find all off my recent courses Pro Tee friendly, the last few in reverse order, Spirit Valley, Vale Meadows, Lochry Doon, non of these have pinched in fairways and have a decent rating, thanks Nigel

Haha that's funny, with no automatic fly over in the simulator version after I had finished I was wondering where the falls you made were and went back to each hole looking for it until I found it. The dedication to detail and time put in to do everything is amazing from you designers, wouldn't even know where to start if I tried designing something, maybe one day

[MainStGolf]

What follow camera view are you using in the game? And what is your delay timer set at. Seems you've found a pretty good combination of watching your ball sail out and then landing. I like it!

[enef56]

Thanks for the comments FaultyClubs, I understand what your saying but it's very difficult to get the views of the course just right, I havent designed any of my courses specifically for the pro tee, I believe you can shut the wind off etc: when I design a hole I play it 20 to 30 times using driver 3-4 woods maybe a 3 iron to try to replicate the landing area, also play the course with wind over several weeks offline in the designer to try and play it in all wind strengths and directions, but it's impossible to get that perfect view from a 60 to 80 yard area that the ball could land in depending whether it's into or with the wind and the individual length of every Pro Tee user, I put as many things out of view as I do in view for just that occasion you slice or block a shot into no mans land, I can spend an evening designing something that can only be seen in the two second portion of the flyover of the hole, I am aware but it's impossible to cover every position. As in previous posts to IronStrokes although I haven't designed specifically for Pro Tee I think you will find all off my recent courses Pro Tee friendly, the last few in reverse order, Spirit Valley, Vale Meadows, Lochry Doon, non of these have pinched in fairways and have a decent rating, thanks Nigel

[FaultyClubs]

Well, I played this course and have to say Ironstrokes made it look easy but it's not. He bombs the ball and pretty straight too, for us mere mortals the course challenges both length and accuracy. But I had no complaints at all, I found it very playable and fair. With many interesting decisions to make. And the detail and creativity on this course is amazing.

My only suggestion for improvement would be to think like a painter and make sure each view leads the eye through the image and includes a strong, satisfying resting spot. At times the view was interrupted by features that prevented the eye from achieving this. So I felt it had a tendency to feel cluttered and without a strong resting spot lacked that satisfying feel of a great painting. Hope that doesn't offend, I thought it was a great track! Clearly you have a lot of talent and imagination! Looking forward to seeing more. With your skills and attention to detail I'd be very interested in any RCR's you've done. Unfortunately when courses get ported over to the Protee server they seem to lose the original designer information so we can't just click and see what else you've created (at least I couldn't maybe I'm doing something wrong...). Anyway maybe list your courses in your signature so we can easily find the others and keep track of what you're doing.

Thanks a lot for making the effort to tailor your courses for us Protee Sim players! I'll definitely play Royal auchtemuren when you finish updating it!

[Ironstrokes]

You crush the ball!


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Haha thanks. I might be able to squeeze out a few more yards even too if I get my laugh angle down. Hitting an 8.5 degree driver and still launching at 20 degrees a lot of the time. If it's going straight and still that far, damn sure I'm not gonna worry about that too much though haha

[Ironstrokes]

That was the most stressful round of golf to watch I've ever had, I felt every blow, and I even started clapping for the putt on 10, and an amazing shot to finish, I really felt your pain on a few holes, I thought you played brilliantly, you don't hang about do you, you play really fast, I'm glad it plays ok for you, it's not meant to be a really easy course you can master first off, but looking at your game you can score -6 easy, it's nice to know there is a good score available to pro tee users after the changes I made, I posted a Friday pins version tonight with different pins and lighting, I've also started ripping up the fairways on Royal Auchtermuren it should be out shortly, I'm currently working on a desert course, there aren't many good desert courses out there. Would you mind if I posted a link of your round on the other forums to show how it plays, thanks Nigel

Absolutely, you can post the round anywhere you like! I was definitely proud of that one! That's awesome hearing you living out the round the same way I felt playing it haha, it's an awesome course. And yea, a desert course would be sweet, interested in seeing what you do with that type of terrain.

Look forward to giving royal auchtermuren another go when you update that as well. I've played it a couple of times now in the original version and really liked it.

Gonna have to play the Friday pins version of havasu falls. Just loved some of the risk reward shots that were placed around the course. And the second time I played it I actually hit the green in one on the 3rd! Did end up shooting 3 over overall for the round but still was happy with that score, just didn't make any putts. Like how some of the par 5s down slope to the green as well, gave me a little extra hope to get it there in 2 even if I hit a little bit of an off drive and it wasn't over done either, perfect mix of challenge and giving you a reasonable shot at it without just handing it to you. Keep up the great work

[BamaGambler]

You crush the ball!


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[enef56]

That was the most stressful round of golf to watch I've ever had, I felt every blow, and I even started clapping for the putt on 10, and an amazing shot to finish, I really felt your pain on a few holes, I thought you played brilliantly, you don't hang about do you, you play really fast, I'm glad it plays ok for you, it's not meant to be a really easy course you can master first off, but looking at your game you can score -6 easy, it's nice to know there is a good score available to pro tee users after the changes I made, I posted a Friday pins version tonight with different pins and lighting, I've also started ripping up the fairways on Royal Auchtermuren it should be out shortly, I'm currently working on a desert course, there aren't many good desert courses out there. Would you mind if I posted a link of your round on the other forums to show how it plays, thanks Nigel

[Ironstrokes]

Just played a few rounds on this tonight and made it my first recorded round using shadowplay with my new webcam. Awesome course! Said it before, but like your design style a lot, just fits my eye right. It looks great and plays very fair I feel. It may seem a bit longer for some at 7200 yards but doesn't play that long at all honestly. There are plenty of the drives and a few of the par 3s are downhill quite a bit that help that. I highly recommend this course, especially if your drives are on. I played 2 rounds and fortunately I recorded the better one here. Shot a great 3 under 69. My scrambling was on. Did put myself in a few weird spots that I got out of quickly (even hit off the top of a big boulder on the one par 5 haha). Only one real terrible hole with a shank and all that led to a double on the 7th but made up for it with some great irons and made a few putts as well. I did play it again after and didn't shoot as well, but not terrible. Its fair but challenging at the same time.

There are a couple of small greens but they are only when you are hitting from like 160 yards and in on a few par 3s and maybe on one or two par 4s but again I was hitting wedges in on those as well, so completely within reason and fit the course quite well actually (check out the 18th hole where I stiffed the wedge on that smaller island green, that may have been more medium-small size though). Most of the greens are medium to big size other wise and very receptive to your shots. And honestly, a bunch of the courses weve played lately on tour had much tighter fairways than this course did, I think some of the pictures may have made it look tighter than it actually is. Great design enef56 and keep up the great work, consider me a subscriber to your courses for sure!