Hello - and I am beginning my simulator build

[Jay28]

Did you put any space between the two screens?

Is it essentially a double thick screen or a screen - space - screen ?

No space between the screens.

[Stetson]

Did you put any space between the two screens?

Is it essentially a double thick screen or a screen - space - screen ?

[Jay28]

How has the two screen system worked? Did you add a third screen?

Two screens has worked great.
At the bottom of the first screen there is some sand filled tubing slotted into the fold at the bottom.
As yet I have not added a 3rd higher quality screen. The image I am getting on the c£150 screens is excellent even with the lights on.(the ceiling lights are on in the pictures above).
Bounceback is minimal
Wedges do roll up but hit the frame ceiling.

[Stetson]

How has the two screen system worked? Did you add a third screen?

[Jay28]

Build has been complete for a couple of months (although tweaking will be an ongoing exercise ).

[Jay28]

Screen(s) arrived today, put them up.





Flatscreen also on wall.
I have some cable tidying to do with trunking and the frame padding, as well as mounting the projector on the ceiling left to do.

I have hit into these screens - I have two back to back - and there is zero bounceback with irons and about a foot with a driver. Very low noise.
They are actually cheaper screens - £170 each bought from Collins Nets. I'll see how they stand up over time and what the image looks like from the projector.
IF I need to I will add a third HD screen in front.

[Jay28]

Hi John...
Yes, Ryder Pro turf and Amtech mats. I like them a lot.
Here is what I did.

The ryder pro turf is stapled (lots of them) along the sides (vertical edges mainly, but there were a couple of places I had to staple near the edge of the surface) .. did one side.. stretched, did another.. stretched again..etc. There is no glue.
Underneath the ryder pro is 7mm artificial turf shockpad underlay. https://expressgrass.com/expweb/arti...-shockpad.html
I still have not decided whether to put fine silica sand all over the top of the putting surface and brush it in... I probably will.

For the mat and strip , here is what I did.
I decided NOT to cut into the plyboard to sink the mats down.
Instead, PRIOR to the putting turf going down I laid both the stance matt and the hitting strip down and then placed 9mm thick plyboard beading around all four sides (about 5cm wide). I then nailed down this beading. You can actualy see the beading on the floor on one of the pictures above.
Then when laying the underlay and turf, I cut them to the inside edge of the beading.
What this did was create a 9mm (plyboard) + 7mm (underlay) + 15mm (turf) (total 31mm) 'tray' for the mat and hitting strip. Turns out the stance matt and the puttng turf were prety much exactly level and no impact on roll from stance to putting turf when putting.
The hitting strip is 5mm higher, but for me that is ok. It still putts fine in transition. I actualy bought 4 different hitting strips - one of them is the same height as the stance matt.
No problem getting the matt and strip tight because they are locked in by the beading, underlay and putting turf.

The overall effect is that the hitting area sits on a 9mm high 'mound' (the height of the 9mmm beading). It's looks pretty neat and again has no impact on any roll of the putt from stance matt to putting turf.

The other way I could have done it was to cut out the 18mm ply floor board sitting on top of the 2*4s, but that would have meant putting a thinner ply under the stance and hitting strip... not as solid... which would have meant filling in between the floor joists under the ply.

One word of warning.. when your turf arrives take it out of the packaging and roll it out ASAP. I left mine rolled for weeks as I was preparing and it got moved around a lot. When I unrolled it was very creased in places. Took ages getting the creases out with plyboard weighted down with pavement slabs and then teh stretching). Even now some are still visible but I managed to get them even enough to not effect roll... hoping they disappear further over time.

So to confirm - no Amtech antishock frame.

For the putting cups I bought some white tubing - like this https://www.toolstation.com/100-roun...RoCH18QAvD_BwE

I cut c100mm diameter holes (with a 102mm holesaw - important as the tubing measurement is usually an inside diameter and was in this case too) and measured from the concrete sub floor to the top of the putting turf (note: the holes were cut BEFORE the underlay ind turf went down,,, then the underlay and turf - carefully and slowly - were cut round the edges when down). This is about 47mm 2*4s + 18mm plyboard + 7mm underlay + 15mm turf = 87mm.

I then cut the tubing to the desired height so it came up to about 15mm below the height of the turf and pushed into the hole, banging it down until it reached the concrete floor.
For the bottom, a simple sheet of white plastic then cut 100mm diameter pieces and slotted them in.

100mm is slightly smaller than a normal golf hole (which is 107.95mm) - which was the intent.

[John @ Glasgow]

Looks great and I have a few questions if you don’t mind. Based on previous posts you’ve gone with Ryder Pro turf and Amtech mats. Did you use an underlay for the Ryder Pro? Is it glued down or just laid into position? Can you confirm you didn’t buy the Amtech anti shock frame? How easy was it to get the ‘tight fit’ between the Ryder Pro turf and the hitting/standing strips? What did you buy for the putting holes? If I ever sort my garage conversion (architect delay) I intend to follow your approach for the floor area - hope you’ve not gone for a copy-write!

[Jay28]

Everything is looking fantastic. I am sure at this point you are really itching to hit!

Thanks and yes, you bet I am itching for the first strike!
I've got padding, screen, projector set up, pc and montior set up to do... then I am good to go. My materials for padding and the screen should arrive in the next 10 days or so.
I reckon first hit is somethime near the end of June, which is about 3 months later than I thought when I set out! I decided to do everything as I wanted and try not to cut corners.

[Dax]

Everything is looking fantastic. I am sure at this point you are really itching to hit!

[Jay28]

Putting turf, stance mat and hitting strip now down.
The putting turf rolls well - haven't measured stint yet, but I would say its similar to my club green - medium to fast.

[Jay28]

The frame ceiling is almost done - just a couple of additional metal joints to add, before fitting out with the internal material - either padding or carpet, or even a mix of both.

The small channel running across the top of the frame gives me the option of putting some material through as a baffle - or I can connect a baffle directly to the wood.

The structure is very solid - I can apply by full weight to the beams so should be easily strong enough. Very little bend or shake.

[Jay28]

The plywood is down for the raised floor, have cut in 3 golf holes and added side supports the frame. (Top braces tomorrow to stop any sag of the wood... also going to build in a small channel along the top to accomodate a baffle)
I also screwed down a surround for my stance and hitting mats to stop them moving.

Notice the little homage to Augusta National in the form of some Azaleas and Magnolias

[Jay28]

I am new to this Forum (my first posting) and I am currently looking at options to convert my garage such that it can house a SIM. Whilst I wait for an architect and engineer to advise on whether the changes I need to do will work, I am doing as much research as I can in order that I build something really functional. I have a question for you in regard to the approach you've taken to flooring. At the moment I also have a concrete floor but plan to lay something on top of it. You've gone with a 'joist' approach whereas I was thinking of laying an insulated board material (Kingspan) straight on to the floor and then laying a layer of chipboard. In effect it would just sit there, basically floating but held down by its own weight. I also like your approach to the hitting and standing mat. Are you working to ensure the hitting mat will be exactly level with the general turf area such that you can putt seamlessly between the 2 surfaces? Would be great to see some photos of the finished mat set-up.

Yes a board straight down on the floor could work. The only thing I would watch out for is movement (I don;t think there are boards big enough to kust have 1 - might be wrong) and whether or not insulation board would indent/compress over time around the area of the floor where your feet are planted (?).
I decided on joists because it's easier to level. I decided not to level the floor beforehand with self levelling compound. If you go the board route, I would recommend you do that.
As far as the hitting and stance mats, I am thinking through whether I will have them exactly level. I can, by cutting out the plyboard (leaving joists in tact in that area). That would sink the mats 18mm and my putting turf is 15mm, plus I am putting down 4mm padding - so from joist to top of putting surface will be 37mm. Thats enough to level up all the surfaces exactly.
Only problem is I will then have to add a solid surface between the joinst under where the mat will sit.

Yeah - I will be posting progress pics on this thread.
I've just completed the ply floor and am in the process of adding side supports to the frame. Will probably add a latest pic tomorrow.
This is taking quite some time to complete - more than I thought, partly due to Covid-19 and partly to do with me underestimating effort (a common thing when building simulators I reckon).

[John @ Glasgow]

I am new to this Forum (my first posting) and I am currently looking at options to convert my garage such that it can house a SIM. Whilst I wait for an architect and engineer to advise on whether the changes I need to do will work, I am doing as much research as I can in order that I build something really functional. I have a question for you in regard to the approach you've taken to flooring. At the moment I also have a concrete floor but plan to lay something on top of it. You've gone with a 'joist' approach whereas I was thinking of laying an insulated board material (Kingspan) straight on to the floor and then laying a layer of chipboard. In effect it would just sit there, basically floating but held down by its own weight. I also like your approach to the hitting and standing mat. Are you working to ensure the hitting mat will be exactly level with the general turf area such that you can putt seamlessly between the 2 surfaces? Would be great to see some photos of the finished mat set-up.