Upgraded from Skytrak to Uneekor QED, finished the bar, added some TVs. Golf Barn 2.0

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  • JayBrd85
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    • Apr 2019
    • 52

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    Upgraded from Skytrak to Uneekor QED, finished the bar, added some TVs. Golf Barn 2.0

    Version 1 (April 2018): Started my build in with a 32'x20'x11' detached garage, built specifically for my sim/home theater room. Added a Mitsubishi ductless mini split for HVAC. Framed a 18' deep x 20' wide platform so the golf/hitting area was defined and separate from the rest of the room, and so I could cut holes into the putting green and put actual cups in. The front 15' is putting green (np50), back 3' is chipping fringe. Country Club Elite 5'x5' hitting mat. Impact Screen is a Carl's 16.5' x10' Premium. Projector is BenQ HT2150ST. Onkyo receiver + speakers for surround sound and to connect PC / Xbox / Fire TV to projector screen. Black curtains (4 sets, 10' tall) from amazon/ warm home designs. Added some jewel-case LED spotlights to help illuminate the green. And a 55" TV above the computer monitor so I could have something on TV while playing. Launch monitor was a Skytrak. Sim software was The Golf Club, then updated to TGC 2019.

    The Skytrak was a good unit that was reliable but had a few drawbacks and frustrations. Over its life, I bet it correctly read 95% of my swings. Misreads on irons were pretty rare, as well as on hybrids and woods. I'd say most misreads were on my 60* lob wedge, or short putts. Some days were worse than others. Can't say I ever played a full 18 without a single misread, I think 1 was my fewest, with most rounds only having 2-4.

    When friends were over, it probably read 85% of the swings. Lots of little things like ball placement, or certain colored shoes or clubheads were suspected culprits of the higher # of misreads. That was somewhat frustrating. With my usual golf partner, it seemed like our only misreads were on the 60* wedges, short putts, or the purest shot either of us would hit all day.

    As for the usefulness of the Skytrak, the ball data helped me immensely. I'm a numbers nerd so I learned about about how different swings shapes and feels would affect my spin numbers. Between swing speed training and a swing change, increased my swing speed from 83mph to 93mph and gained about 25 yards off the tee. It also helped me change my normal swing shape from a fade to a draw. On some days I can occasionally shape my shot.

    Version 2 (Feb 2021) - Over the years, I had several project ideas and decided to check some off the list at the start of 2021. While I had a couple shelves to hold my liquor bottles since late 2018, I finally got around to putting in a bar top to finish off that area. And since I was going for more of a sports-bar viewing experience in the room, I added a pair of 58" TVs in the back corners. I wired them so they can either mirror the Sim screen, any of the other TVs, or be their own independent TV channel/Netflix/etc.

    For the sim, I switched hitting mats to a SwingTurf about 3 weeks ago. I've been a very big fan of it. It doesn't feel as penalizing on fat shots as the CCE, otherwise seems pretty comparable. Just wish I could have got it in 5'x5', but I've made the 4x'5' work. Added a USB floor-controller so I can control the sim software from the hitting mat. I also replaced the Skytrak with a Uneekor QED. Installation was straight-forward. I had already ordered some Urethane Unicorns and have only hit them so far. Added some 3" thick foam, 8" tall, across the entire length of the bottom of the screen to prevent bouncebacks from line drive worm-burners.

    While I've only had the Uneekor for the weekend, here's my first impressions - I absolutely love it. The first day, I had it in for about 8 hours before it had its first misread, and that was my buddy shanking it with a white driver. Today, I played a full round and it accurately picked up all 79 of my shots from the whites at TPC Scottsdale. Aside from the more consistent-reading, the trajectory of the ball has always matched how the ball came off the face and into the impact screen. With the skytrak, I felt there were quite a few times where the ball would hit the center target circle on the screen, but then I'd be 15* or more left of that target line on the sim. I haven't seen any of that with the Uneekor - and I'm sure that it is mounted parallel to the screen and doesn't move helps. Really happy with how everything has turned out. And my wife has even hit a few shots since she wasn't scared of nailing the Skytrak unit!

    - Pictures from the original build: https://imgur.com/gallery/olhaxtH
    Last edited by JayBrd85; 02-08-2021, 10:01 PM.
  • DavidU
    Member
    • Feb 2020
    • 52

    #2
    Sounds awesome... What golf courses can you play. I have a tgc 2019 with a lifetime license, can this be played on Uneekor? I saw there was two packages for software. One for 1K and another for 2K.

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    • DavidU
      DavidU commented
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      That's what I was wondering. So you can transfer the TGC 2019 over and play as you did with Skytrak. Were you able to sell your Skytrak? If so, how did you do that? Is there an annual fee with Uneekor as there is with Skytrak? Is it fussy about where you place the unit? The problem I have with Skytrak is it misses a lot of 3 wood shots and it also is a pain if you have a lefty. Once you set Uneekor up can you pretty much place the ball wherever, within reason, and hit from the left and the right?

    • JayBrd85
      JayBrd85 commented
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      Yes, transfer over and continue playing your version of TGC 2019 - my character stats and created courses were all still there.

      I sold my Skytrak thru the Golf Club Traders FB group. Thought about ebay, but they take 10%, so figured i'd sell to others in the group and give them a small discount.
      No annual fee for the Uneekor. The guidelines for install say the top of the unit/sensor needs to be between 9' and 10.5' above the hitting mat, and should be 3.5' back from the center tee position. The top of mine is probably around 9'3" - my ceiling is 11' but my projector is right in front, so I needed to drop the Uneekor low enough to not have the projector in the way. When you calibrate the unit, you can define the "hitting area" - and it is pretty generous. At least 18"x18". It should work easy for switching between lefty/righty. I don't have any lefty-golfer friends, so I've set everything up for RH only. But if a lefty came, i could put down my old hitting mat next to the new one and be good to go.

    • DavidU
      DavidU commented
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      Great information, thank you. Love your space. You should be very proud of what you put together. It is super nice.
  • Dax
    Ultimate Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 1797

    #3
    Really like your space!

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    • JayBrd85
      Member
      • Apr 2019
      • 52

      #4
      2 week update - I added the club stickers and all my club speeds seem to have stabilized and the smash factors more consistently reflect how good the strike felt. My first misread with the unit was Feb 5th, then I played 7 rounds (+ warmup) without a misread and then halfway thru round 8 w/ my buddy on Feb 19th it had its second misread. Overall, the QED has been impressive and reliable. Once I learned to open the Ignite software first and then TGC2019, that allowed them to both work at the same time so I can see the video of club impacting the ball on every swing during my round. Learning about OnTopReplica software so I can have the club impact video on the Sim screen was a bonus. This forum has been very helpful.

      I'm now waiting for the delivery of 2 Spinel cameras so I can add in the Side/Back views on my swing. I'll post a video once I get that all set up. I have a good spot for the side view camera. The rear view is trickier - not sure how I want to run the USB cable and where to ultimately place the camera. If I ceiling mount it, I might need 2 16' USB booster cables and some kind of telescoping mount, and I worry about how reliable of a signal that can be. We'll see how it goes!

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      • DavidU
        Member
        • Feb 2020
        • 52

        #5
        How do the club stickers work? And are the balls special as well or can you hit any ball?

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        • JayBrd85
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          Club stickers are little reflective rectangles that go on the top line of each of your clubs. They send you a pack of 400 to start. They can be tricky to apply if you have a thin top line, but once you get the hang of it it's not too bad.

          The QED balls are specially marked. The unit comes with 2 dozen bridgestone. I order 2 dozen Urethane Unicorns as well. The bridgestones are good for distance but don't get much spin. The Unicorns spin pretty well. The EyeXO unit can use any ball.
      • DavidU
        Member
        • Feb 2020
        • 52

        #6
        Thanks, looking forward to seeing your cameras in action. I am so tempted to upgrade to the Uneekor but my Skytrak has been pretty good this winter. Still I get a number of miss reads every round and my buddy's 3 wood will not register for him.

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        • JayBrd85
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          Finally got the cameras and hooked them up. Might have to get a different zoom lens so I see less of the room with the side cam. and maybe taller/ more fish-eye for the rear view. - https://myuneekor.com/power_swing_card/view/3701/mSZ5El . The rear camera is sitting in the middle area of the coffee table, below the table top. I'm trying to keep these out of the way, but it'd probably be better if it was mounted higher. I probably need to slide the rear camera about 1.5 ft to the left as well so it's more center. I had to spend a lot of time running a 32' USB cable and tape it under rugs and against walls since I don't like wires running out in the open.

        • JayBrd85
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          For my buddy's white driver, we put a strip of blue painter's tape across the top and now it's picking up the correct club speed. Is your buddy's 3 wood all white or super glossy? He frequently had no reads on the Skytrak with all his white driver and 3&4 woods.

        • DavidU
          DavidU commented
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          Yes his 3 wood is white but we covered it in black tape and still had issues.
      • brdgolf1
        Member
        • Jun 2020
        • 43

        #7
        Looks great. I would definitely hang out there

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        • Lucas MacEwan
          Member
          • Jul 2020
          • 60

          #8
          That is a wicked looking golf room! Damn! Not hard to find friends!

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          • ScottThoma5
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2020
            • 5

            #9
            So with either version of the Uneekor, you would need to use those club markers for whoever comes to play? (Granted they bring their own gear)

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            • DavidU
              DavidU commented
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              And can you send a pic of where they go on the club?

            • timsiegle
              timsiegle commented
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              Only if you want Club data to show up for them. So if they're doing a fitting or gap analysis or something it would make sense to use stickers

              If you're just playing sim golf, no need for the stickers

            • JayBrd85
              JayBrd85 commented
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              I played 7 rounds before adding the club stickers and it wasn't an issue. On the Uneekor Resources page, they have links to the club sticker install guide for the QED and EyeXO - https://uneekor.com/pages/resources , each one uses a different sticker and placement.

              I did add the stickers to my buddy's set the last time he came over. The only difference was much more consistent club speed numbers and smash factors that matched how well the strike felt. I did notice that with the stickers, my 4 hybrid has had the only 2 mis-reads I've experienced and I think I realized why. The clubhead is orange, with a silver strip in the center/rear of the crown - and that silver strip is about the same size as the club sticker, so I think that's throwing it off. I'm going to put some black tape over that spot and see if it helps out. The only other odd club speed numbers I've seen is when my buddy uses his white driver or 3 wood - it's rare, and the ball conditions are usually correct. but I don't think my buddy has a 131mph club head speed while the ball only hits 117mph.
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