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[webs007]

Guys,

Im looking for a company to build a garden office in bromley ( UK ) that I can use for a golf simulator.......


Having quotes now, still looking for that good builder who will build what I want and not an off the shelf kit they already have. Im getting quotes the same cost as a loft extension, but for garden office. As soon as you say you want it as a golf simulator people double the cost.


question 1: without a lot of extra work I have 4m X 6m room. Speaking to golf systems they told me I really need 5m wide to stand with the target line in the middle. Would 4m wide be a big enough room ? will I ( right hander ) be able to swing a driver and aim down the middle ?

question 2: I've read you have the wall, then 30cm to screen and then you stand 8ft ? 10ft away from screen ? what is the safe distance to stand away from screen as not to be struck by a ball bouncing off the screen back at me ?

question 3: How real are the simulated golf games ? I wanted to spend £2,500 on launch monitor etc, is it like playing golf, where you aim on the screen, does the direction and aim feel real ?

question 4: PUTTING......I was going to have a proper putting surface, can you in the golf simulator stop, do a couple of putts and then go back to simulator and add 2 puts into score ? do you put at screen etc ?


BUDGETS:

I really wanted to spend £25,000 on office in garden.

I have a good projector and top spec laptop so was going to just buy the screen, enclosure, curtains, and then launch monitor etc and software. I had a budget of about 4k to 5K

Is this enough ? could I have a decent looking simulator setup for that ? Am I miles off ?




grateful for any advice, any pics of your simulator setup helpful



Alan

[bubbtubbs]

Can't speak for TGC but e6 allows you to set up the game mode to enter the number of putts once you're on the green, so you could make your approach shot and put in your putting strokes once you've gone off elsewhere to do your shots if you wanted.

[Alex.Morgan]

Hi Alan

Check my YouTube channel out - im based in the UK and run my simulator in a single garage. Will give you a view of what is looks like and gameplay etc

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk0Y9t84pTuqHzlwu59NH0A

Any questions let me know

[webs007]

Really annoying, cant get a decent quote for the summer house / office. The quotes are coming back not far short of a loft extension. Might as well get another bedroom and on suite.

Really like the look of your simulator.


I'll keep plugging away and then may ping you a noe to ask where the best screens / simulators are.




Cheers
Alan

[adilgolf]

Not sure what the regulations are in the UK, but we are in Australia and i just ordered a metal garden shed that i plan to use as a golf sim room.
Size had to be limited to 6mx6m for various reasons, which gives about 5.5mx5.5m usable space inside (18' x 18')... height slopes from 3m to 3.5m at its highest point (10' to 11.5')
I think 6m x 8m would have been much nicer but it is what it is.
Price for the shed was $5,500, then insulation, concrete and installation are about $9,000, there were some permits that had to be issued by city council for a few hundred $, so let's just say the shed cost is about $15k.
I have a quote for a split AC unit for $2,500
I assume you should be able to get comparable pricing in the UK ?
The shed is supposed to be assembled tomorrow, will let you know how it goes and how much it ends up costing once the sim room is complete.
Cheers

[webs007]

In the UK ive had 2 quotes, one brilliant one for £18K and the guy has disappeared and doesnt return my calls.......and one for £33,000..........

for about £42,000 to £50,000 I can have a loft extension with a bedroom and on suite.......

[Alex.Morgan]

wow!

Builders are in high demand i guess because of Covid and lockdown, everyone doing extensions and bits on the house. That seems very expensive tho, as you say loft conversion for that money and really add some value to the house.

Keep us updated with how you get on

[adilgolf]

Wow, that's about $33K - $60K AUD for the room alone !
What kind of finish are you looking for ? i mean at this price, it may include tiles or carpeted floors, drywall, paint, electrical, aircon... which is a bit overkill it the intended use is purely a golf sim...

Here is a breakdown of my build so far:
shed $15k
Impact screen $2k USD (par2pro)
uneekor eyexo $12k USD
turf, hitting mat 1k
subfloor EVA mats $1,500
Projector optoma gt1090 $1,500
Gaming PC $1500
Homemade vant panels $2.5k
Lighting $800
Split AC $2,500

Total cost is about $45K AUD which is roughly £24K or $35K US, most expensive here is the uneekor system...
I plan on adding some high speed cameras and other bits and pieces later on, but i am hoping to keep this below the $50K AUD mark.

Good luck with your project, i hope the numbers above will help with your budgeting.
Hard to find builders these days. My shed kit has been sitting outside in the garden for 8 weeks now, it was supposed to be erected today and was postopned again til tomorrow.
I am not holding my breath as they did the same for the concrete works... i feel like assembling the damn thing myself

[JNewman1909]

adilgolf, where did you source the EyeXO from? I too am about to start building here in Oz, and find the local prices a bit ridiculous in terms of markup

[webs007]

Just had a quote for garden office, 4m X 5.5m ( I hope thats big enough ? ) garden office, sounds good, 175mm insulation, cost £25,625.....getting more realistic....


For those who have played on one or have one, whats the best simulator ? Sky Trak or flightscope memo ? remember I only have 5.5m nd is that enough roomful flightscope to see ball flight ?



are there any there ?


more important playing pretend courses, hitting shots against a real back drop, like some games for kids to play, smashing windows etc, ( saw that on GC2 )....



--Alan

[bubbtubbs]

I prefer Mevo+ out of the two. It has superior portability, seamless LH/RH use, less expensive software options, no recurring user fees and virtually no shot delay (less than half a second). The big downside is that you should probably have 5.4m of space from unit to screen in order to get the most out of it indoors, though it can work with with as little as 4.8m. keep in mind that the screen or net will require at least 30cm of space behind it to absorb the ball impact.

If it's a space purely for golf simulation and the setup doesn't require frequent disassembly, you might consider Protee at that price point as well.

[Alex.Morgan]

whats he height on the garden room?

are you having to put in planning permission?

[adilgolf]

make sure whatever dimensions they give you are the INSIDE measurements.
4m is already a bit tight, you don't want to loose more to wall thickness, insulation...

[webs007]

Luckily I have a big slope in garden and a drop down to concrete base.


so from the base level I can have 3 meter high roof and off the grass level it ill only be 2.5meter or less. Will need to cut steps down into grass or steps inside office room.



4m and after losing walls does this mean I wont be hitting centre at the screen ? I will only have a right handed setup that wont change.....

For plain ease I thought skytrak as Ive read that at 4.8m the other one can be a bit un-reliable ( worried I haven't got the length for it.........although paying for software subscription sucks.



would it be better to hit back in the 4m and have 5.5 meter wide ?

[adilgolf]

As long as they waterproof the room well and plan for drainage in bad weather, i guess steps or a ramp should be ok... is that included in the price quoted?
Otherwise, have the door on the lowest side of your slope (concrete base?) and the other sides of the room would be partly underground... again, it all needs to be 100% waterproof.

4m is not enough for hitting, especially if you lose more to wall thickness and end up with 3.5m or so...
You need 30cms minimum from back wall to screen and at the very least 2.5 meters from screen to your tee if you don't want to hit the screen with your golf clubs; with 3.5m -4m, that leaves you no room for a back swing...

[webs007]

do you mean length or width ?


I'll have the golf screen 13 feet wide on the width, back 30 cm from wall, then hitting 10 feet back from that and the whole length of room is 19 feet so long enough ?. I was talking about the 13 feet wide, is that ok to stand in middle of the width and swing right handed ?

[adilgolf]

My previous comment was to answer your question 'would it be better to hit back in the 4m and have 5.5 meter wide ?'

4m width should be ok i think, but best is for you to take some test swings inside a 4m wide area and see how you go and if it feels comfortable for YOU.
Remember that you may want a computer screen in front of you, your golf clubs, plus you might need some sort of protection for your side walls (curtain, vant panels, carpet...)...

Otherwise, just offset your position as needed, the skytrak allows that

Again make sure the 4m is an internal dimension and not the outside size of the room.

[webs007]

Just found out, that price is with no ground work, so I'll get a gardening company in to cut bushes back, take a flower bed away and make the steps down.....

[adilgolf]

can you post a photo of the proposed site?

[webs007]

picture 1 of garden space...


going to cut area back to paving slabs and remove the flower bed, then have t built there, 2 inward doors and have them cut steps in grass,

[webs007]

show slope of garden

[webs007]

simple rectangle build, off base and doors open inwards and I can get someone to build cut into grass the steps for walk down to door

[webs007]

bushes small trees cut back.