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  • looking for high speed camera to record swing

    Any recommendations on high speed cameras so i can actually see my club when i record a swing? I have no idea what I am looking for.



  • #2
    What LM do you have? Swing catalyst works well with foresight.

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    • #3
      I have two of these:



      And one of these:



      You can set it up where the sound of the club striking the ball will activate the recording. And you can also set it so it records a few seconds before the impact sound to capture the entire swing. It's amazing.

      The program to use with it is free. https://www.kinovea.org/

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      • Jim in Indiana
        Jim in Indiana commented
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        Good to know, will the length of USB cable affect the camera output to laptop. I wish smartphone slow motion would function for this

    • #4
      What distances do you have between the ball and the two cameras? I have room behind for the down the line view but not so much on the side.

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      • #5
        I use the MevoPlus

        QUOTE=jrock000;n393901]I have two of these:



        And one of these:

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        You can set it up where the sound of the club striking the ball will activate the recording. And you can also set it so it records a few seconds before the impact sound to capture the entire swing. It's amazing.

        The program to use with it is free. https://www.kinovea.org/ [/QUOTE]

        I have 4-5 feet on the tee side of my setup and 5-6 feet behind me.

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        • #6
          I have the camera suggested by jrock000 and use kinovea and i am still getting blur. I know next to nothing about video/frame rates/etc. any tips on settings/anything that may help? the below pic is a mid speed swing with one of my irons, as you can see, the club is nearly invisible.

          Thanks in advance.
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          • #7
            What frame rate are you running?

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            • #8
              that was at 60fps. I am not sure what i am doig with setings and such, but found framerate adjustment. here is one at 120Click image for larger version

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              • #9
                The OV4689, 1/3 inch sensor camera is a good camera to start with.
                It is UVC compatible, so it works on every windows system without any additional driver.
                It is not mentioned in the documentation, but it seems to be a global shutter sensor, what is important (rolling shutter creates a geometrically distorted frame)

                The sensor has a relative good light sensitivity, delivering 120fps at 1270x720 resolution or even 260fps at 640x360 resolution

                However, the question comes up of what you want to observe in your video.
                The videos look acceptable at normal speed and up to some slow motion factor.

                However, if you come to a single frame display, you will have a lot of blurring.

                Blurring is not related to the frame rate but rather to the shutter speed ( or exposure time that is the same), see attached sketch.

                Let’s take an example of a standard iron 7 swing, assuming a club speed of 90 mp/h (112km/h).

                The club then moves at a speed of 1,2 inch/millisecond (3,13 cm/millisecond)
                or 0,00123 inch/microsecond (0,00313cm / microsecond)

                At standard light conditions, we can assume that the camera uses an automatic exposure time of 3000 - 5000 microseconds, resulting in blurring of 3,7 - 6,1 inch ( 9,39 - 15,6 cm) club movement. That is what you see on your images.

                To get a relatively clear image of the club, you have to go down to 200 - 500 micro (!) seconds.
                So you need a lot of light to come down to these values.

                Joan from Kinovea has made different testings on the UVC-cameras and mentioned, that it really is difficult to control these type of cameras regarding the acquisition parameters.

                If you want to get full control of all these parameters, you would have to use a machine vision camera like the one from Basler, IDS or Daheng (cameras having the IMX273 sensor are a good option) that work with kinovea. Furthermore, you need a lot of light that is absolutely flicker free.

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                • #10
                  Resurrecting an old thread.
                  Currently, I have kayeton 120 FPS and I’ve noticed a tremendous amount of blur because of the relatively slow shutter speed I want to upgrade the cameras to something nicer such asf the flir Chameleon but they only capture at 149 FPS. But I’m wondering if this is adequate or should I go for something like that Can you 240+ FPS?

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                  • #11
                    That can do

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                    • #12
                      I think you need 240 fps. The MLM2Pro cameras are at 240 fpsand get great club images.

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                      • #13
                        Here's a quick follow up.

                        I decided to get the blackfly flir BFS-U3-04S2C-CS: 0.4 MP, 522 FPS, Sony IMX287, Color. This camera works great with SC and the bushnell LP/GC3. Since my setup is outside I can set the shutter to 300 microseconds which essentially eliminates blur and I'm running it at 360 fps and it works great. I decided that I wanted higher frame rates as opposed to higher resolution (these cameras are 540x720). A 1080x1440 camera will require 4x the bandwidth. Also, since I'm running this off a laptop, I wasn't sure if I was going to have hardware issues.

                        FWIW
                        2x BFS-U3-04S2C-CS: 0.4 MP, 522 FPS, Sony IMX287, Color
                        intel i5 12650
                        nvidia 4070
                        16 GB ram

                        runs SC at 360 FPS with FSX Pro or 2020 running concurrently without any issues.

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