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    Hey everyone, I've been reading this forum for a couple of weeks now after I decided I was going to most likely invest into a golf simulator. Without rambling on too much, I will get down to the point and some of the decisions I'm trying to narrow in on.

    Decisions I've already pretty much made are going with the Foresight GC2 with the FSX software through a sales rep at Foresight direct.

    We just built a home and moved in last December. I have a very large and deep 3 car garage and 2 small children(1 & 4). So there will be no need for that third bay for quite some time. My garage is temperature controlled in the winter, I have hydronic in floor heat in my garage, it's insulated and drywalled and has 11ft ceilings. However, the area where I want to put the simulator would be over one of the garage floor drains, which covering the drain isn't an issue, it's the subtle pitch and uneven surface. I also have the railings and garage door opener to contend with, so I would need to be pretty particular with the location of the hitting mat so I could strategically swing where I'm not going to hit the opener and rails, which are approximately 9ft. Now I was pretty dead set on doing this in the garage and just purchasing a golfsimulatorguys set up.

    The other option that just came into play a few days ago is a room I had previously built the house around to put in a fairly substantial, high end home theater room. But recently I've had second thoughts and have been considering putting in a simulator in that room. I'm a +2 and still play some competitive golf and play a decent amount of golf in general. I live in Wisconsin and for my entire life I've never had much opportunity to keep my game sharp in the winter. Also having young kids and family severely cuts into winter golf trips. Anyway....that room that is currently framed in is 14ft wide x 23ft deep by 9ft high. Now, I'm not going to spend all of this coin to make this a dedicated simulator room with only 9ft of ceiling height, which in reality will be more likely 8' 10" after flooring and drywall are up. I'm 5'11 and could get by with it. But I want this to be used and enjoyed by all. I have full exposure and a walk out in my basement, I spoke to my concrete guy as well as my landscaper about digging that room down approximately 12" and my concrete guy said he's done it plenty of times. My initial concern was water but my landscaper said not to be concerned due to the way my land is and that the way my how was built. My concrete guy is a friend of my father and laws and he said he could do the whole thing for about $3,500. That was a lot cheaper than I had thought it would be. So now that room is in serious play and I've already got my wife mostly on board with this. but with 23 feet of depth, I am planning on doing some sort of seating, half wall bar in the back of the room and a small area for a bag, clubs etc.

    FINALLY, I have been dealing with this rep from foresight who has been really good to work with so far. I have been asking him a lot of questions about what type of enclosure to look into. He said they will design the whole thing for $600 and he will make that up to me on his quote for the GC2 and software. Has anyone gone that route with Foresight? Since I am doing a dedicate room, it does sound like a good option depending on price.

    Any input would be appreciated. I would like to have this room completed sometime in December/January.

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    Dig out the basement.

    Search ottawa golf forum. Go to the home simulator tab, at the top will be a thread about posting your setup. Go to page 6, they dug out a basement and put in theater seating as well.

    If you stay in the garage, you could just take down the top rails and opener since it will not be used and you can put it back up when you start to need that space again. Also, do you have a way of keeping it cooler in the summer, i saw you mentioned it's heated for winter.
    Last edited by wbond; 09-09-2016, 03:03 PM.

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    • #3
      That price sounds low to lower the floor a foot. The footing is likely only 6-8 inches down. You'll need to underpin the footing. Having said that, it's worth it and your room can easily double as a theater. I put mine in the basement and lowered the floor to give me 10 foot ceilings.
      My Courses:
      World Par 3's by mthunt
      Toronto GC (L) mthunt
      Burlington G&CC by mthunt
      Weston G&CC by mthunt
      London Hunt Club L mthunt
      Park CC Lidar mthunt
      Sunningdale GC Robinson L
      Sunningdale GC Thompson L
      Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
      Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
      The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
      The National GC L mthunt
      Mississaugua GC L mthunt
      Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
      Markland Woods CC mthunt
      Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
      Magna GC L mthunt
      Barrie CC L mthunt
      mthunt Range

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      • #4
        I would say house value wise per sq foot lower the floor in basement and get sq foot added to home value but do it with permitting so it counts, I do not think that 3500 is close to what it will cost with permitting and engineering cost associated sub contractor pricing is great if it holds up. nearly 90 percent of garages will have slope as code dictates this with a few exceptions so if you decide garage just do a 2x4 build up and level will need to do pt furring strips every 4 feet under 2x4 joists to keep any bounce from happening

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        • #5
          Thanks for the input guys. A little update regarding the concrete dig. My concrete guy said no underpinning will be needed due to the fact there aren't any footings in that area. And yes, his price is low, very low, I do cash only with him and my father in law and I throw him a lot of work. Remember, this isn't an entire basement, it's just a 23 x 15 area. And the majority of the room is above grade. Regardless, to what you guys have said, I will be talking to an engineer to make sure all is per code. Right now I'm strongly leaning towards having the simulator room in the lower level. It's going to be about half the investment of what my dedicated home theater room would have been so I feel like I'm already way ahead, lol.

          Now my second concern is whether or not I go the foresight route with regards to the design and build. Does anyone have any experience with that?? The Foresight rep was very convincing and did a good job selling me.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Blaker34 View Post
            Thanks for the input guys. A little update regarding the concrete dig. My concrete guy said no underpinning will be needed due to the fact there aren't any footings in that area. And yes, his price is low, very low, I do cash only with him and my father in law and I throw him a lot of work. Remember, this isn't an entire basement, it's just a 23 x 15 area. And the majority of the room is above grade. Regardless, to what you guys have said, I will be talking to an engineer to make sure all is per code. Right now I'm strongly leaning towards having the simulator room in the lower level. It's going to be about half the investment of what my dedicated home theater room would have been so I feel like I'm already way ahead, lol.

            Now my second concern is whether or not I go the foresight route with regards to the design and build. Does anyone have any experience with that?? The Foresight rep was very convincing and did a good job selling me.
            If there's walls in the basement, there's footings. The walls sit on the footings. If you dig the floor deeper than the the bottom of the walls what will the walls sit on? Goggle bench underpinning. Will the lowered floor go right to the wall or are you digging a pit in the floor? Likely a pit. Otherwise you'd have a gap of dirt between the bottom of the wall and the lowered floor.

            Anyway, you likely have this under control. As for foresight, buy the gear from them and have your guy build the room or do it yourself. There's lots of ideas here. My room cost this to build:

            plywood $200
            10x5 mat $600
            dricore $400
            putting green material $600
            screen $700
            carpet tile $600

            A sim builder would charge $10,000 minimum for the above.
            My Courses:
            World Par 3's by mthunt
            Toronto GC (L) mthunt
            Burlington G&CC by mthunt
            Weston G&CC by mthunt
            London Hunt Club L mthunt
            Park CC Lidar mthunt
            Sunningdale GC Robinson L
            Sunningdale GC Thompson L
            Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
            Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
            The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
            The National GC L mthunt
            Mississaugua GC L mthunt
            Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
            Markland Woods CC mthunt
            Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
            Magna GC L mthunt
            Barrie CC L mthunt
            mthunt Range

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            • #7
              Here's a couple of pics.
              My Courses:
              World Par 3's by mthunt
              Toronto GC (L) mthunt
              Burlington G&CC by mthunt
              Weston G&CC by mthunt
              London Hunt Club L mthunt
              Park CC Lidar mthunt
              Sunningdale GC Robinson L
              Sunningdale GC Thompson L
              Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
              Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
              The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
              The National GC L mthunt
              Mississaugua GC L mthunt
              Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
              Markland Woods CC mthunt
              Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
              Magna GC L mthunt
              Barrie CC L mthunt
              mthunt Range

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              • #8
                Forget dealing with Foresight, except to buy just the GC2 if possible.......PM me for further info.

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                • #9
                  the sim room has many options that make it your own there is a ton of info and pics on this forum to go off of and help with questions you might have. lay out your room on what you want for this and go for it. Some guys have made a very basic room to just play others make it a show piece of there home As you can see from mthunts pics its a well designed room that he has put some thought and effort into. I would say this once you have the rough construction done start and do the sim room yourself, as it will take hours to do and money will start flowing out of your pocket with just the material and you will be making decisions sometimes on the fly as your room starts to come to reality, I just finished my room and I budgeted a certain amount and I exceeded that by simply getting rid of what I had already and upgrading to something a lot better, good luck and have fun. here are some pics of my room I just finished. started with the intent of a small simulator in 3 car garage and still park two cars NOW I have a three car garage that fits no cars and I still am trying to find a spot for my Harleys.

                  http://golfsimulatorforum.com/forum/...-tee-build-out
                  Last edited by aeroburner; 09-11-2016, 04:43 PM.

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                  • #10
                    I personally like the garage build as long as you have AC. Having easy access for folks to bring their clubs in without mashing up my walls or taking them downstairs is a must in my book.

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