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  • Protee VX Review

    In seeing the dam break the last few weeks on data and reviews, I finally decided to pull the trigger on the Protee VX. This is an upgrade from the Skytrak for me and if you’ve seen any of my other posts, I was stuck deciding between the VX or Uneekor for a while. One of my sons is a lefty so an overhead monitor was definitely going to be the way to go. And I had taken some lessons in the winter on a QED and loved the additional features in some of the data and in particular, the clubhead video. Seeing that the VX essentially matched all of the data and video I was looking for along with an included software package, a lower price, and a free TGC2019 transfer, it was a simple decision once enough positive reviews came out. Martijn from Protee also did a remote demo with me and answered all of my questions and that gave me additional confidence in the product.

    My VX finally arrived last week, and I set about installation. This is where I ran into a little bit of an ordeal. Installation itself was relatively simple. You attach a plate to the ceiling and then the VX slides and clicks into place. I was a little surprised that there was no requirement to mount into a stud, but the installation package did come with some solid drywall installation sleeves. As I was lining everything up though I realized needing a stud would’ve been a problem. The unit is in line with my projector which is mounted into a stud. That meant the next studs were outside of the width of the VX anyway. Either way, the included installation hardware seemed solid enough and for good measure I did put an additional screw into the center stud through the arrow hole in the mounting plate. I’d rather over-engineer a little bit than worry about something falling out of the drywall.

    The first hiccup came when installing the VX Labs software. I needed an activation code that hadn’t been included. I purchased the VX from Rain or Shine and they were good throughout including quickly solving some customs snafu that arose with UPS. There was some confusion on whether the activation code would come from Rain or Shine or Protee, but Rain or Shine quickly took care of it, and I was back in business.

    The next hiccup was a much bigger deal and caused a major scare for me. I had the software ready to go, the VX mounted, and I went about running the power and ethernet cables. I turned the power switch on, got an orange light on the switch, but nothing else happened. There were no red lights coming on in the lenses and not a sound from the VX itself. That seemed weird to me, but I knew it still needed to connect to the software, so maybe that would take care of everything.

    It did not. The software was unable to connect and nothing I did changed that even after power cycles, testing different ethernet ports, cables, etc. It seemed fairly apparent to me I was looking at hardware problem, but I was really hoping I was missing something or maybe just skipped a step.
    A quick call to Rain or Shine wasn’t much help as they said they had never really heard of this happening. They promised a call back from their technical guy which never came. I was pretty bummed at this point with a $7,000 paperweight bolted to my ceiling. To be fair to Rain or Shine this was at the end of the day so I didn’t really expect a call back that day, but I was just dreading the hassle it was going to be to pack the thing back up, get it back to UPS, wait for it to presumably go back and forth to the Netherlands again, wait who knows how long, and then deal with having to be home for a UPS shipment again. I did a little more research, found the Protee Support page, saw they weren’t going to be online until later that night, and stewed for the rest of the evening.

    The story finally takes a turn once I was able to connect with Protee Support. They were very responsive. Since it was still the middle of the night in Europe I’m presuming this was a 3rd party support team Protee uses, but they did their best. We tried all sorts of different things to get the VX to connect but by this point I was completely convinced this was a hardware issue and somehow there was no power getting to the rest of the VX despite the power switch lighting up. The tech agreed, took copies of all the logs and said to contact support again in the morning when the Netherlands staff would be online. I felt like there was at least some promise of a resolution after a miserable night. I popped online in the morning and connected to support once again. It was the 3rd party service again but I appreciate that they escalated me to the Netherlands team right away without having to go through the script and the power on/off, jiggle the wires routine again.

    Things got interesting right away when the tech asked me if I was comfortable opening the VX up or if I’d rather initiate an exchange. I’m reasonably confident in my mechanical abilities and was still dreading the whole return and exchange process that I said as long as I wasn’t going to be blamed for anything that might go wrong in the process of me opening the unit up, I was game to try. After popping a few screws out and removing the cover it was readily apparent what the issue was. There’s a black box that’s presumably the brains of the VX that had 2 cables running into it, a power cable and an ethernet connection. There was tape around the cables and on other connections inside the unit, but in this particular connection the tape was loose and both the power and ethernet connection were no longer securely in place. The power connection I can kind of see since it’s not a positive connection and who knows what happens with international shipment, UPS trucks, etc. The ethernet connection is baffling to me though. That clicks into place and is not always the easiest connection to remove even with fingers. My only assumption is that maybe the tape held down that clip part of the ethernet cable when it was installed so it made it possible that it could slip out as well. After plugging in both connections and flipping the switch we were back in business. Lens lights came on, fans fired up, it was go time!

    From here it was straightforward. The software connected easily, and the calibration process was super simple as well. The Protee tech stayed on the chat throughout and even answered me a few times as I popped back on several minutes later with additional questions and concerns. The last hurdle was getting the activation code to transfer my TGC2019 copy from Skytrak to VX which they took care of quickly as well.

    As far as performance of the VX, there’s not much more I can add that hasn’t been hit on in the videos and reviews that are coming out. So far it seems to be doing everything as promised. The software is fast, the data seems reasonably accurate to me without doing side by side comparisons and it picks up everything. I haven’t had a misread yet and that includes some rollers and otherwise pretty egregious mishits from my kids. I love the data screen and in particular the impact video is one that I loved when I first saw it on a QED and is great to now have at home. Connecting to TGC is simple and I went ahead and got a Black Friday TV that I mounted to the side wall so that I can have VX Labs on one screen with TGC on the projector.

    So far, I don’t really have any cons. I’ve got a few wish list items I see and some of which sound like there are already solutions in the works by Protee that will come out at a later date.

    Had to put in part 2 due to character length


  • #2
    • This is something that was addressed in the forums and it sounds like Protee is working on, but it would be great to be able to have the Range tab in VX labs in one window and the Data tab in a second window. That way if I’m just looking for a range session it’s not necessary to even go through TGC. The VX Labs range is decent looking and mainly it would just save the time of waiting for TGC to open, connecting to TGC, waiting for the TGC range to open, etc.
    • In the impact video box, the dotted lines aren’t square to the window. The horizontal line is supposed to be true straight and then the vertical line would be square to impact. In my window that dotted line “cross” is skewed rotated to the left a couple degrees. I was assured by Protee that the horizontal line is a measured true straight line. My fear was that I had something misaligned and even if I had a dead down the line swing it would still read it as in-to-out. I was assured this was not the case and so far I believe it’s telling the truth. The tech also got a very quick response from the dev team that they agreed with my assessment that it didn’t “look” ideal and that they were aware of it and working on a solution. It seems to be a consequence of the cameras being at an angle to the ball as they also said no matter what the ball would also look like an egg. That was much less noticeable to me than the lines so hopefully it’s something they’ll be able to tackle, but I also think with more time and trust it’s something I probably won’t notice as much. Especially on a screen that’s now several feet away from me rather than when I was staring directly at it on a computer screen.
    • A minor quibble but it would’ve been nice if the system could’ve been wireless. I planned ahead when building this area and put an outlet in the ceiling for the projector which is also perfect for the VX. I was not planning on having an ethernet cable that has to run across the ceiling and down the wall. Maybe it’s not technically possible to have the response speed and whatever else is happening wirelessly and obviously this would be a future hardware upgrade so not necessarily something that will help me out, but maybe a future feature. I can eventually tuck the cable away in the ceiling and run it down the wall, but that’s not a project I feel like taking on right now.

    Overall, I’m very pleased with the VX so far. I’m exceptionally pleased with the support I got from Protee during a challenging install. It’s a little strange to have to do some minor surgery to make a unit work that’s this expensive, but it was much preferable to an exchange process and delay and all along Protee assured me they’d make it right if it turned out to be a bigger issue. For the price and the features included the VX sits in a category of its own.

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    • #3
      That's funny. I noticed the same thing and wondered that too. Good to hear you're up and running. I've seen UPS packages in my business arrive is some strange condition.

      "In the impact video box, the dotted lines aren’t square to the window. The horizontal line is supposed to be true straight and then the vertical line would be square to impact. In my window that dotted line “cross” is skewed rotated to the left a couple degrees. I was assured by Protee that the horizontal line is a measured true straight line. My fear was that I had something misaligned and even if I had a dead down the line swing it would still read it as in-to-out. "
      My Courses:
      World Par 3's by mthunt
      Toronto GC (L) mthunt
      Burlington G&CC by mthunt
      Weston G&CC by mthunt
      London Hunt Club L mthunt
      Park CC Lidar mthunt
      Sunningdale GC Robinson L
      Sunningdale GC Thompson L
      Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
      Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
      The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
      The National GC L mthunt
      Mississaugua GC L mthunt
      Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
      Markland Woods CC mthunt
      Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
      Magna GC L mthunt
      Barrie CC L mthunt
      mthunt Range

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      • #4
        Leo Spaceman thanks for the detailed experience seems you had a busy and stressful time but in the end it all worked out. That is awesome.

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        • #5
          Any more updates on the Protee XV? I am considering a move to Protee from the Uneekor QED.

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          • #6
            I had my protee VX setup today. I probably hit about 40 balls from SW to 4h and it’s pretty good. It was always within 5y of the Bushnell Launch Pro which I know to be crazy accurate. I didn’t go through the configurations on it to verify altitude or anything so some of the differences might just be based on the default settings not being set correctly. The launch angle, spin rate, descent angle and side spin where nearly identical. I will try to do more testing tomorrow including some drivers.

            It will be a good test because I recently posted all of my club data from the Uneekor. When I go through all of my clubs I will be able to compare the from the Uneekor to the numbers from Protee.

            The software for the range is really basic. At first glance it is great. It gives you all sorts of data on the range screen. However, to see the video of ball data, or to see the video of club impact, you have to click on a different tab to see that information. I didn’t see an easy way (or know if it’s even possible) to move the data from the other tabs to a different screen. If that’s the case, then the range isn’t nearly as nice as the Uneekor setup. With Uneekor I had the range on the impact screen, but I had ball data and video of impact on a different screen.

            In fact, when I used the simulator software like GS Pro or TGC 2019, I would have a second screen that showed Uneekor club/ball data and the video of impact.

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            • #7
              The split screen feature for Protee labs in on the work. You can run TGC2919 or GSpro and Protee labs in a split screen however.

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              • #8
                Yeah in an earlier response to one of my questions they said it was something they were working on. In my demo they also showed me a way that you can choose which data points you want, make it so that they are always on top, and then go to the range screen and the data boxes you chose would show up on that screen. I don't remember exactly how they did that, but it was just through the menus. But I agree with you that the impact video is what I want to see most. I haven't played around with it enough yet to see what I could alter and do. If I want to have the range and data simultaneously like Bubba said I run TGC range on one screen and the VX Data tab on the second screen.

                Will definitely be nice when they can get split screen or 2 instances of VX Labs running though. It loads and is ready a lot faster than going through everything to get TGC to the range.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by drsagacity View Post
                  I had my protee VX setup today. I probably hit about 40 balls from SW to 4h and it’s pretty good. It was always within 5y of the Bushnell Launch Pro which I know to be crazy accurate. I didn’t go through the configurations on it to verify altitude or anything so some of the differences might just be based on the default settings not being set correctly. The launch angle, spin rate, descent angle and side spin where nearly identical. I will try to do more testing tomorrow including some drivers.

                  It will be a good test because I recently posted all of my club data from the Uneekor. When I go through all of my clubs I will be able to compare the from the Uneekor to the numbers from Protee.

                  The software for the range is really basic. At first glance it is great. It gives you all sorts of data on the range screen. However, to see the video of ball data, or to see the video of club impact, you have to click on a different tab to see that information. I didn’t see an easy way (or know if it’s even possible) to move the data from the other tabs to a different screen. If that’s the case, then the range isn’t nearly as nice as the Uneekor setup. With Uneekor I had the range on the impact screen, but I had ball data and video of impact on a different screen.

                  In fact, when I used the simulator software like GS Pro or TGC 2019, I would have a second screen that showed Uneekor club/ball data and the video of impact.
                  I run ProTee labs on a monitor using the video tab and run a range in the game on my screen. It works great that way.
                  My Courses:
                  World Par 3's by mthunt
                  Toronto GC (L) mthunt
                  Burlington G&CC by mthunt
                  Weston G&CC by mthunt
                  London Hunt Club L mthunt
                  Park CC Lidar mthunt
                  Sunningdale GC Robinson L
                  Sunningdale GC Thompson L
                  Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
                  Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
                  The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
                  The National GC L mthunt
                  Mississaugua GC L mthunt
                  Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
                  Markland Woods CC mthunt
                  Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
                  Magna GC L mthunt
                  Barrie CC L mthunt
                  mthunt Range

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mthunt View Post

                    I run ProTee labs on a monitor using the video tab and run a range in the game on my screen. It works great that way.
                    Today that’s exactly what I did. I got GS Pro working so I used the GS Pro range on the sim and I had Protee Labs on the monitor. I have to get TGC working next.

                    Protee Lab should have a pop out screen for the range that way we could use the Protee lab range on the projector and use the other windows on a second monitor. For them, since they also own TGC it might not be worth it. Regardless, the LM is awesome.

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                    • Bubba22
                      Bubba22 commented
                      Editing a comment
                      I agree about the split screen within ProteeLabs. That's in the works.

                  • #11
                    It’s going to be interesting. Since I am about to start dialing in my irons. I went through a few sessions from LW-4i with the Uneekor. If I have time this weekend, I will go through and hit shots with each club on the Protee and just see how close the data is compared to my Uneekor averages. I will start making club adjustments so that the numbers are where I want them on a centered strike.

                    I know that a few clubs have to add loft and a few have to reduce loft to make my flights exactly right. I didn’t have the stickers on the clubs for these shots, so club data isn’t accurate, it’s just the estimate.
                    Last edited by drsagacity; 12-16-2023, 02:57 AM.

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                    • #12
                      Can anyone give an overall update or satisfaction with the VX. How is the accuracy of the unit ? Would you buy it again. Can you also comment on the support/service.

                      Thx

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                      • drsagacity
                        drsagacity commented
                        Editing a comment
                        I am really happy with the Protee VX. I moved from the Skytrak to Uneekor and Bushnell Launch Pro. I sold those units and moved to the Protee VX. Overall, I would say the experience has been great. I have no reason to doubt the data since it lines up with the data I have seen from the Bushnell Launch Pro for the last few years. I also did side by side comparisons with the BLP before I shipped it out.

                        Probably my favorite thing is getting club data on every session without needing to use the stickers.

                    • #13
                      I'm still very happy with the VX and would buy again. I haven't really seen any issues with accuracy. We've got some debate in other threads about how it's reading swing path and maybe favoring in-to-out, but after putting it through some more experiments last night I'm more convinced it's correct and the reading all comes down to setup and alignment. And I meant that's more swing and body alignment, not alignment of the unit itself.

                      Beyond my initial installation fiasco I haven't had any need of support/service so can't really say there although they were great with my issues at the start.

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                      • #14
                        Thanks Leo much appreciated

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                        • #15
                          ANYTHING on the RLX?
                          My Courses: all are LiDAR
                          Wilkshire LiDAR
                          Glenmoor
                          Brookside LiDAR
                          Shady Hollow CC​

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