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  • Chance to Test Drive v3.0 for PC

    While we finish cleanup on a few small items, I figured I'd let you guys test drive the new v3.0 app. All I can share right now is PC, but feel free to download and give it a whirl over the weekend.

    Same as the usual 'forum-exclusives' - don't call support, etc. v3.0 is a make-over on the front end and a complete re-write from the ground up for optimization, so you can imagine the amount of testing involved. Hope to get it out live next week on all platforms.

    Edit
    Official release: https://golfsimulatorforum.com/forum...ak-app-release

    (note - you may need a release version (like v2.6.6) installed on your computer in order for this to run)
    Last edited by SkyTrak_Seth; 09-29-2017, 10:15 PM.

  • #2
    SkyTrak_Seth , so far I'm not able to log in my account using 3.0, assuming that piece isn't working? After a few attempts, it just sits at "Logging in..." and have to close the app to get back to the main screen.

    Aside from that:
    - Graphics update is great; looks much nicer and smoother.
    - No-reads are about the same, not a big issue with my Skytrak anyway.
    - Bag mapping, skill challenges all worked fine.

    Request:
    - when displaying multiple shots, can the last shot have less opacity on the tracer (or vice versa, previous shots have less opacity while the current shot is solid)?
    - Skills assessment: for longer clubs, especially woods, would it make more sense to remove the green and just have the flag stick?
    - Can all of the UI elements have an adjustable opacity setting? TV burn-in isn't a big problem these days but it can still be a problem from daily usage.

    Last edited by frackh; 09-30-2017, 04:44 PM.

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    • frackh
      frackh commented
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      SkyTrak_Seth Yes, I was checking this forum while waiting for the login process to complete. I usually have a log in issue when updating (or re-installing) Skytrak but always work after I close and restart the app. This test version kicked back w/ bad username/pw and then eventually just sits at that "Logging in..." screen without any further progress.

    • SkyTrak_Seth
      SkyTrak_Seth commented
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      frackh, if you go to skygolf360.com can you enter those same credentials and log in? All the app does is call that same webservice. It should be no different. I'm stumped on this one....

    • frackh
      frackh commented
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      SkyTrak_Seth that was bizzaro, app wouldn't let me log in again. Went to the Skygolf360, logged out and then logged back in using the same credential, and now the app is able to log in on the first try.

  • #3
    Just finished a practice session using it without any issues. The new graphics seem nice and although I am currently on the free-range package I didn't notice any new numbers. Will this version be able to select what you are interested in seeing as I would love to be able to see Peak height and descent angle.

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    • SkyTrak_Seth
      SkyTrak_Seth commented
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      Not in this one, but that is on the list.

  • #4
    Can someone take a screenshot of the new graphics?

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    • #5
      Nice graphics.

      as frackh said - much nicer and smoother.

      But you might want to tone down the brightness of the greens on the practice range. They are extremely bright on a computer monitor and worse on a projector. No amount of adjustment on my projector could get a good combination of colour brightness or contrast to get it right. I got the driving range looking nice on computer monitor and projector. But once the ball landed on the green in "follow ball" mode, it was so bright it was near impossible to see the ball etc.

      The other thing is during one of the practice sessions, the ball tracer was the same colour as the green I was hitting into. Not the best combination there.

      I agree with the comments above need the tracers in general to be less solid - little more opacity and it would be nice to be able to pick the colour you want for the tracer. Being someone who is colour blind in some colours, having the option to pick the tracer colour would be great.

      Driving range looks much nicer and the addition of a percentage for accuracy when hitting into a green is a nice addition to the main screen.

      I know others on the forum have requested to see more data on the main screen of the practice range, like ball flight height. Whilst this would be nice, I wouldn't want to have it at the expense that the screen then becomes too cluttered up with data everywhere. Which may need to see the data that is already displayed made smaller in font size, which in turn would make the screen more difficult to read.

      Shot history is also much nicer as well and the scroll option is back (yeah I know pet hate of mine when it stopped working in v2.6 LOL)

      All in All, extremely nice update.

      how far away is skypro integration? is it still on the cards?

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      • #6
        I can confirm that the offset view saves correctly now. Thank you!

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        • shimonko
          shimonko commented
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          I can't say I ever saw the offset view in the previous version - is this new to 3.0?

          Edit: found it.
          Last edited by shimonko; 10-02-2017, 01:06 PM.

      • #7
        I tried it out. Other than bogging down my 4 year old laptop, it looked and played nice. I didn't notice anything new other than graphics. Can anyone summarize what all is new in this version?

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        • SkyTrak_Seth
          SkyTrak_Seth commented
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          It's mostly just a make-over on the front end. Backend work paving the way for what's to come.

      • #8
        Found 3 bugs.

        Version 3 didn’t save my overall settings. Changed distance to metres and when I quit the program and restarted it, everything went back to default, being yards.

        Sessions settings are also not saved. I put in different altitude, temps and humidity and this was not saved when I quit the program and restarted it, all settings went back to default.

        after hitting a lot of shots using 4 different clubs, I found that in the shot history I was unable to delete some shots. In particular the shots that I could not delete from the history seemed to be the first 4 shots of one of the clubs that I had used. Only on one of the clubs, not all. I could delete any other shot, but not one of the first four shots. This problem was also evident in current available version 2.6.

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        • #9
          Has the ability to add offset to E6 been added? Trugolf said they were waiting on skytrak to implement it from its end so it would work as it does for other platforms

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          • shimonko
            shimonko commented
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            I saw what E6 wrote and found it strange, as offset is normally a concern of the range/game rather than the simulator or interface. I'd try copying the two relevant variables into the SkyTrak section of the xml and see if that enables it for SkyTrak.

        • #10
          Originally posted by frackh View Post
          SkyTrak_Seth , so far I'm not able to log in my account using 3.0, assuming that piece isn't working? After a few attempts, it just sits at "Logging in..." and have to close the app to get back to the main screen.

          Aside from that:
          - Graphics update is great; looks much nicer and smoother.
          - No-reads are about the same, not a big issue with my Skytrak anyway.
          - Bag mapping, skill challenges all worked fine.

          Request:
          - when displaying multiple shots, can the last shot have less opacity on the tracer (or vice versa, previous shots have less opacity while the current shot is solid)?
          - Skills assessment: for longer clubs, especially woods, would it make more sense to remove the green and just have the flag stick?
          - Can all of the UI elements have an adjustable opacity setting? TV burn-in isn't a big problem these days but it can still be a problem from daily usage.
          Thanks! No-reads won't have anything to do with the software, so you shouldn't see any change there.

          Regarding your requests:
          1) I'm looking to change the tracers but couldn't get it into this release, so probably more like v3.1. I think previous shots will go to reduced opacity.
          2) We'll be splitting out the current skills assessment to cover all clubs. So the current one will really be for irons, while woods will have fairways instead.
          3) I doubt it, but can check into it.

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          • #11
            Originally posted by YonexMan View Post
            Nice graphics.

            as frackh said - much nicer and smoother.

            But you might want to tone down the brightness of the greens on the practice range. They are extremely bright on a computer monitor and worse on a projector. No amount of adjustment on my projector could get a good combination of colour brightness or contrast to get it right. I got the driving range looking nice on computer monitor and projector. But once the ball landed on the green in "follow ball" mode, it was so bright it was near impossible to see the ball etc.

            The other thing is during one of the practice sessions, the ball tracer was the same colour as the green I was hitting into. Not the best combination there.

            I agree with the comments above need the tracers in general to be less solid - little more opacity and it would be nice to be able to pick the colour you want for the tracer. Being someone who is colour blind in some colours, having the option to pick the tracer colour would be great.

            Driving range looks much nicer and the addition of a percentage for accuracy when hitting into a green is a nice addition to the main screen.

            I know others on the forum have requested to see more data on the main screen of the practice range, like ball flight height. Whilst this would be nice, I wouldn't want to have it at the expense that the screen then becomes too cluttered up with data everywhere. Which may need to see the data that is already displayed made smaller in font size, which in turn would make the screen more difficult to read.

            Shot history is also much nicer as well and the scroll option is back (yeah I know pet hate of mine when it stopped working in v2.6 LOL)

            All in All, extremely nice update.

            how far away is skypro integration? is it still on the cards?
            Thanks for the feedback! The green is actually the same green from pre-v3.0. The new environment took a lot of work and we didn't have time to get the new greens into this release, so they will come with v3.1.

            I think the idea is to let users pick which parameters are shown at the bottom - not add additional, but rather assign a parameter to each of the 6 'slots'.

            Club data is the next release.

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            • Blaiser
              Blaiser commented
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              Whoa whoa. Can you please elaborate on the club data?

          • #12
            Originally posted by YonexMan View Post
            Found 3 bugs.

            Version 3 didn’t save my overall settings. Changed distance to metres and when I quit the program and restarted it, everything went back to default, being yards.

            Sessions settings are also not saved. I put in different altitude, temps and humidity and this was not saved when I quit the program and restarted it, all settings went back to default.

            after hitting a lot of shots using 4 different clubs, I found that in the shot history I was unable to delete some shots. In particular the shots that I could not delete from the history seemed to be the first 4 shots of one of the clubs that I had used. Only on one of the clubs, not all. I could delete any other shot, but not one of the first four shots. This problem was also evident in current available version 2.6.
            Thank you! I will look at each of these right now.

            UPDATE: I was unable to reproduce any of these. On the first two about saving settings, is it possible that you were not logged in? If you are not logged into the app, we have no profile to save those settings to. I was logged in and the main profile and practice settings all saved when closing/re-opening.

            Also, I hit 6 shots with several clubs and then went back and tried to delete the first 4 plus some other random ones - all deleted fine. Is there something specific you might be doing that could help point me in the right direction?
            Last edited by SkyTrak_Seth; 10-02-2017, 04:07 PM.

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            • #13
              Hi @SkyTrak_Seth

              I had the chance to test this at length last night. No issues noted, logged in ok, was able to offset screen etc. measurement changed to meters, and it saved. No misreads.

              Overall I found the experience awfully similar to the previous version.

              How do we pick the parameters displayed at the bottom? Is this to be added?

              What is the club data solution? Skypro?

              Thanks!

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              • SkyTrak_Seth
                SkyTrak_Seth commented
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                Yes, the idea was to keep the experience itself relatively unchanged, albeit look a bit nicer. Once this is out, we'll be back to adding more functionality.

            • #14
              Did I read that correct? Club data is in next release direct or through another device?

              what will be measured?

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              • #15
                Originally posted by SkyTrak_Seth View Post

                Thank you! I will look at each of these right now.

                UPDATE: I was unable to reproduce any of these. On the first two about saving settings, is it possible that you were not logged in? If you are not logged into the app, we have no profile to save those settings to. I was logged in and the main profile and practice settings all saved when closing/re-opening.

                Also, I hit 6 shots with several clubs and then went back and tried to delete the first 4 plus some other random ones - all deleted fine. Is there something specific you might be doing that could help point me in the right direction?


                Took note of some more details.

                My V3 of Skytrak was extracted into a folder on the C:\ drive. Folder name is Skytrak3.

                Noted that my settings were not saved at all when I logged back in. Yes. I am logged into the application. Also noted that when I went back to use the Skytrak V2.6 that all my settings in there had been lost as well, but previously they were always saved. V2.6 is installed in the default folder name created.

                I'm definitely logged in with V3 of skytrak. Going to the settings after login to set "metres" my username etc is there.

                in regards to shots in history not being deleted. I noted that this time I was testing different golf balls, just using a 6 iron. So clicked on club compare for each different ball I tested - 3 in total. Did about 20 shots with first ball, 20 with second and 30+ with the third ball. Did a mixture of deleting shots on the practice range. When I went into history, I clicked on "Show Averages" for the first 2 6 iron clubs and went in and out of history several times. Then when I went back in for the last time, I tried deleting some shots from the first 6 iron data. Unable to delete the first 3 shots from that first 6 iron I used in the history.


                Just noted. After logging into V3 again. I went into the "About" section and under the "Unit Registered to" it said "Please Log In".

                Not sure why this is the case?? maybe this is the issue?

                Note - Just created a second account using Skytrak V3. Settings look like they are saving now.
                Last edited by YonexMan; 10-03-2017, 08:35 AM.

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                • SkyTrak_Seth
                  SkyTrak_Seth commented
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                  So can you log in now with your old account? Something doesn't add up...
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