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My iron spin numbers are crazy low. I am seeing 4-5,000 for an 8i. On the course at times I see too much spin in my ball flight. I use a CCE mat--could this be causing spin THAT low?
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Mine have been super low too, but i thought it was just my new irons i got a few weeks ago... And besides, they are weaker lofts, so one would expect more spin, not less, correct? I know there's more to it than just loft, but my spin numbers nosedived right about the same time, so just figured it was the new clubs.
trumb1mj did you make any changes in clubs or balls? I'm on the cce mat, as well.
I've tried a few different balls to make sure (chrome soft, Kirkland, srixon zstars/xzstars) and they are all way lower than they used to be.
I should mention that this is in TGC, i don't think I've been in the skytrak app to see if the spin numbers are low there too.Comment
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Srixon 765 8i with modus 120s and Pro V1 (pro v1x, kirkland, lethal, tm premium, etc.). I'm about to go hit some balls with that combination. I'll also hit some with my previous set (mizuno mp57).Comment
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I also used a CCE mat and my mid to low iron spin is also too low, which exaggerates my carry distance to the upside. I don't have that problem when hitting driver or 3W teed up where the spin seems about what I expected. On SW shot, the spin is reasonable as well. My theory is I tend to almost pick the ball off CCE mat which may be the reason for the low spin, but I don't know for sure.Comment
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I would say it's the mat. I had the same issues with the CCE. Changed to True Strike and problem solved. Have heard that the divot action is also good for more correct spin numbers.
There are several threads about this issue with the CCE.
But one good thing about the CCE is that it does'nt allow you to hit down hard (painful), it encourages a more sweeping blow and i think this might be beneficial on the course.Comment
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Very interesting page about influence of mat ;-)Originally posted by trumb1mj View Post
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Thanks for the link! The last comment on that web page says it all, I think... I have a heavy dense mat (holds a tee very well for example) and any bit of club interaction with the mat results in reduced speeds, lower distances, and off-line shot variation. You can hear the difference between shots picked clean and shots that would have left a divot, whether fat or after impact. I suspect the mat also affects the ball with effects differing from grass, even on well struck shots. I'm working through video instruction to shallow my club head swing through impact, with one effect being a very shallow divot after impact...which is good for both on grass and off the mat. -
Thanks for the link. Now I know why my iron swing off the CCE is so much longer in carry distance vs in real life and relative to my wood's carry distance, although the result is a bit counterintuitive. I can understand the mat causing lower spin and exaggerate left/right due to how it affects the clubhead, but seems like the slowdown in ball speed would compensate for the difference. Wonder if I should return my CCE mat and get something else.
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I saw the same sorta spin numbers with my MP57s. I guess if I wanted to test whether it was my mat I could simply tee the ball up. I will report the results.Comment
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Your tee test will help but won't tell you if it is the mat, your swing or the Skytrak.
I use a CCE mat and find 8 iron spin rate ranges from under 4k to almost 8k depending on ball type. I've stopped using ProV1 for practice...especially wedges...the crazy high spin is too hard on the screen (life).
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Also make sure you are setting up correctly (ie. SkyTrak even with the mat, logo pointed towards SkyTrak etc.).Comment
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The mat can make a huge difference. I hope to in the near future, do a little experiment to find out for sure why the spin is lower on these mats vs the ground. Lots of different possible reasons. Besides the mat, if you are hitting into a net, depending on the net type, they can leave residue on your golf club and on the ball that makes the friction between ball and club go way down. The ball slides up the clubface and launches high and low spin. Clean your clubs very well, often, and cycle out balls frequently. Otherwise I would suspect your strike indoors is less than optimal.
Edit: Funny story about the residue issue. I have a cheap net that leaves a thin film the the ball, which transfers to the club. I hadn't cleaned my clubs in a while and I went out and used one of these old dirty golf balls in my garage setup. Usually the ball hits the net, gets caught and falls down. The spin helps make it get caught. These knuckle balls came out with so little spin, I dang near got hit in the head multiple times from the almost straight back rebound.Last edited by Clevited; 04-05-2018, 12:52 PM.Comment
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Are you seeing a low launch angle as well? If so you could be hitting the mat first ever so slightly and then the club will bounce into the ball and cause it to hit slightly thin. This will give low launch and low spin. Have you sprayed your club face to see the strike location? This would be a good idea to do.
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I'm making good contact. I'm not a bomber and seeing ball speeds in the 120s with a 7i--that's striped for me.Originally posted by AndyF View PostComment
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I'm getting the same thing. Hitting with an 8i, I'm getting 4780 back spin, which is awfully low. Is True Strike the most accurate mat to purchase?Comment
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I have a Truestrike mat.Originally posted by exclsiv View Post
My 5 iron (28*) spin was 4,800 with 120mph ball speed last session (Bridgestone B330 RX). When I’ve tested off a tee, spin numbers seem comparable, with even spacing between clubs (about 800rpm per club).
I’m very happy with it. It does seem to compare with a fairway. Very slightly heavy shots reduce ball speed and decrease spin, so you can ‘get away’ with some, but that’s comparable to a real fairway. You do learn after a while though (by feel, ball speed and spin numbers) when you haven’t hit it perfectly clean, so there’s plenty of feedback.
Expensive, but worth it IMHO.
DanComment
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