Driver distance skytrak

[coz]

Does anybody drive the ball on their skytrak with a carry over 270yds or a total distance over 300? If so how far do you hit it on the course outdoors?

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[AUfanHKY]

When I hit what I would consider a decent drive with good numbers (launch 12-14 and spin in the low 2000's) I get ball speed from 155-160 with carry 260-270 and total distance 285-295. That is pretty close to what is see on the course. With that being said in do feel ball speed may be slightly on the low side.

[keithpbz]

I hit a lot of drivers with both a trackman and skytrak going at the same time. Ball speeds were consistently a little lower on skytrak, but only 1-3 mph slower. And never had one more that 3 mph slower. I also never had one actually read a higher speed on skytrak either.

[AUfanHKY]

Good info...thanks for sharing. Confirms what I felt in the above post

[coz]

Thanks good to know. I'm starting to think my unit is off somewhere. Its hard for me to figure cause my irons are perfect. I'm lucky to get a ball total distance 275 and my outdoor range i carry the 270 marker on all well struck balls. Range balls even. I'll keep working on it. I don't want to send it in. Hit on another unit today ball speed was close 5mph higher but the spin was quite a bit lower and the results were what i see outside.
Do you change your set up with driver? Ball position or skytrak height?

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[doublebogey]

coz, I have the exact same problem as you (irons spot on but driver or shots off tee seem short w lower than expected ball speed) - so would love to hear insights on why this might be as well.

keithpbz, you said ball speeds w drivers were consistently 1-3 mph lower on ST (never higher) - what about ball speeds for irons? Consistently lower too or sometimes higher sometimes lower? Reason I ask is, for me, with irons sometimes my shots are longer and sometimes shorter (but within range of ST's stated +/- margin of error on ball speed, spin rate, etc.); however with my driver, it always seems just shorter (but maybe within range of ST's stated margin of error as well though) but never longer. Thanks.

[keithpbz]

I didn't try irons. Only reason I tried drivers was because I was getting much lower ball speeds than I was used to from other launch monitors, usually was a low to mid 160's ball range for me and skytrak was always 150-153 range. Turns out it was me, I pre ordered my unit and got it in the winter time and I don't touch clubs much from November to March. I was just rusty, after a week of hitting I had my speed back. I trust skytrak 100% with all clubs now. I use it to work on everything from 20 yard pitch shots to punch 4 irons to stay under trees. And I'm a plus handicap golfer who plays only competitive tournament rounds.

[Mickey]

Longest drive ever on skytrak 293 total yards. Average about 265 yards. Average is a bit short - maybe. Going to properly test it this week against gc2 at local golf town and report back. Will use the par2pro approach as shown on YouTube.

[fhann]

Make sure that your local Golftown has not applied a boost factor in their software setup. It has been known to have occurred.

[Mickey]

That's a good point. Best way to sell new clubs is to make the buyer think they hit them longer than their old clubs.

[Tekbud]

This has been abundantly clear to me anytime I've hit clubs at Golfsmith, PGA store, etc. Can't trust them. Can't even trust the staff because they may not even know that it's been done.

[BogeyMan]

Some of us are having club distance issues, you can count me in that group. I am working with their tech support people now to try and resolve. Photos of various clubs showing results have been uploaded for them to review, waiting on feedback. My unit in no way resembles real world, My 60 degree wedge routinely hits the ball like nearly 100 yards (yeah when donkies fly, I might this in the real world 80 if a bust a nut), yet I can't get a driver no more than about 220 to 230 on the best struck balls. Only club in my bag that is close in distance by not being too far one way or the other seems to be right around my sand wedge or utility wedge, you start getting to pitching wedge and the distances start getting short as as you go up the club line toward driver it gets worse. In real life I have average driver carry distances on 270 or better, I can't even come close to a total driver distance on ST. I think based on testing my issues are somewhere with spin calculations, could be a hardware issue. The numbers its coming back with seem greatly exaggerated both back spin and side spin, just knowing where they should be, not really verified it, but it generally on the driver its reading in excess of 4000 rpm and lots of 5500 range on back spin. These readings are keeping my driver distance not much over 200, if I am able to get a decent backspin read of 3500 or less which is rare then I will get a 220 to 230 yard distance drive. I have literally puckered my ass cheeks and swung out of my shoes just for giggles and the best I have ever attained on a few occasions is around 270. Long irons same issue, best I can get out of 6 iron is around 160 to 165, way short in the real world for me, then if I jump up to a 4 iron it goes the same distance. So if I have shot form this distance i can pull either club out and get same total distance, but the 4 iron will show a lower ball flight.

[Tekbud]

I also feel like my numbers are dead on. The only exception for me are PW and gap wedge. Both appear about 7-8 yards short. I just play for it I'm the e6 demo. I haven't played much IRL of late so it may be that way IRL now. With the accuracy of my other clubs I'm prone to think it is.

[wilson]

My GW and PW also are the only clubs that don't quite reflect what I think is real world. 7-10 yards off for me I reckon.

[coz]

Ok my unit appears to be fine all my belly aching is my fault or they did an update since last night? I do see where i can delete individual shots now and don't remember that. I took the unit to the local dome this morning. 12 degree sldr adjusted to 10.5. 82gm rip 70x shaft. 157mph launch15.9. Spin 2528 carry 273 total avg 290. Right on. I didn't have to worry about ceiling height and i didn't overswing. I also expect 240 out of my 3 hybrid sldr setting 1degree lower setting 82gm stiff speeder shaft. Result 142/14.0/3644/228/240 avg. Spot on. Sorry folks im an idiot please forgive me for wasting precious minutes of your lives!

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[wbond]

Good to see another skytrak working correctly.

[coz]

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[TorchRedRob]

Awesome! Glad to see it is working for you.

[doublebogey]

Some of us are having club distance issues, you can count me in that group. I am working with their tech support people now to try and resolve. Photos of various clubs showing results have been uploaded for them to review, waiting on feedback. My unit in no way resembles real world, My 60 degree wedge routinely hits the ball like nearly 100 yards (yeah when donkies fly, I might this in the real world 80 if a bust a nut), yet I can't get a driver no more than about 220 to 230 on the best struck balls. Only club in my bag that is close in distance by not being too far one way or the other seems to be right around my sand wedge or utility wedge, you start getting to pitching wedge and the distances start getting short as as you go up the club line toward driver it gets worse. In real life I have average driver carry distances on 270 or better, I can't even come close to a total driver distance on ST. I think based on testing my issues are somewhere with spin calculations, could be a hardware issue. The numbers its coming back with seem greatly exaggerated both back spin and side spin, just knowing where they should be, not really verified it, but it generally on the driver its reading in excess of 4000 rpm and lots of 5500 range on back spin. These readings are keeping my driver distance not much over 200, if I am able to get a decent backspin read of 3500 or less which is rare then I will get a 220 to 230 yard distance drive. I have literally puckered my ass cheeks and swung out of my shoes just for giggles and the best I have ever attained on a few occasions is around 270. Long irons same issue, best I can get out of 6 iron is around 160 to 165, way short in the real world for me, then if I jump up to a 4 iron it goes the same distance. So if I have shot form this distance i can pull either club out and get same total distance, but the 4 iron will show a lower ball flight.

I think I'm having similar issues as BogeyMan. Basically driver back spin seems a bit too high (usually 4,000-5,000+ rpm) causing some distance loss - couldn't verify though as I was unable to get my ST working to test it against GC2 and Flightscope when I went to get fitted for my new driver. Would really love to see results of people who have tested back spin numbers between ST vs. GC2 (or Flightscope).

[BogeyMan]

I am still waiting to hear back form Skytrak tech support on my issues. I had been playing with all kinds of things to remedy this on my own different balls. stance mats, changing out how thew Skytrak unit was placed, lighting conditions, everything I could think of, nothing has had an impact on the odd readings. So I finally gave up and called support, they suggested I upload some photos of various clubs to demonstrate my concern. Actually I am getting concerned that I have not heard back, a few more days of silence and I will have to call again and find out what is up.

I really want to be a full fledged endorser of this product but at this time I can't.

[coz]

I think I'm having similar issues as BogeyMan. Basically driver back spin seems a bit too high (usually 4,000-5,000+ rpm) causing some distance loss - couldn't verify though as I was unable to get my ST working to test it against GC2 and Flightscope when I went to get fitted for my new driver. Would really love to see results of people who have tested back spin numbers between ST vs. GC2 (or Flightscope).

skytrak 2500 avg gc2 1900avg

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[fhann]

There is a point where it is nearly impossible to attain very high launch angles with a driver. The Flightscope Optimizer software is a useful program for testing launch parameter combinations. However, in the extreme cases, some combinations cannot be humanly achieved with one another, for example, 18 degees launch angle, 1700 rpms, and 170 mph ball speed.

Try downloading Trajectoware software for modelling driver distance and shapes. It is a free program that is suitable for drivers only. Read the disclaimers. I like using that program because it is very visually interactive when changing parameters.

Could there be a typo describing 30 percent rollout rather than 30 yards roll out?

[doublebogey]

Yeah sorry guys, my mistake. I knew about 2.5 yards carry per 1 mph club head speed - then I multiplied by 1.5 instead of divide.

Flightscope optimizer is great idea. I will enter my typical launch angle, etc. and just play with backspin to see what 1,000 rpm difference is in distance then I can assess if the yardage I think I'm off by is just the higher spin numbers from ST.

And yes, 30% roll out seems high - you mean 30 yards roll out? BTW, in ST I typically only get around 17 yards roll out (in firm ground conditions) so the higher backspin might have taken another 10-15 yards away from total distance as well.

[apljb]

Hey, actually I did mean carry plus 30% rollout, but that's in the cases where carry isn't optimized, so, essentially if you're launching it flat with low spin, it will land short but roll out long (on firm/hard conditions), eg fly it 220, roll out 60+. For the same ball speed, spin with higher launch, you might get 250+ carry, with 40 yards (<20%) rollout. All depends what you're trying to maximize and what you value in hitting it. Chucky three sticks vs j.b. Holmes, if you like...

[apljb]

Hopefully, attached, as promised above

[apljb]

Trying a different way...

Lord above, that was hard... 😊

Hope this helps.