NetReturn Nylon Impact Screen

[Cinderellaboy]

Probably a great choose psw, I don't think I would go with Net Return if I was building a sim from scratch. I'm still waiting for my NR pro screen but I can already tell I'll be annoyed by it and upgrading the full enclosure for next winter. I'm just such a fan of the NR as a net that I'd like to make it work.

Once you get setup can you share some pics?


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[Psw757]

I decided to go with a micro bay from all sport systems which gives me just a little bit bigger setup than the net return.

I am building the framing at 9.5 w x 9 h and they have screens custom made, mine will be 9w x 8.5 h and they are customizing 4ft netted over hang on front for the lob shots.

Hopefully it will work out nicely, they have really good customer support in trying to accommodate any space you have.

[Shardak]

I tried the suggestion of placing an 8-foot copper pipe at the top of the netreturn impact screen, to make it lay flatter and give a better picture. It for sure looks better, but I hit only about 10 wedge shots before I had one hit the pipe and come shooting back at me pretty quickly.

My solution was to move the pipe up above the netReturn frame. This still improves how the screen lays, primarily in the corners. The screen no longer has to curve back at the corners to attach to the netReturn.

The pipes also help to better support the home-made top frame that I built to catch wedge and flop shots.

Finally, I got the bottom corners of the screen attached in such a way that they pull the screen tight and flat. Wrapping the velcro strips under the bottom of the frame allows you to get the screen to pull tight without riding up the vertical frame sections.

With these pretty simple mods, the image quality of this setup is much improved.

No more tinkering for me, I think my garage setup is as good as I can get it. I wish my golf game improved this easily.

[Shardak]

I bet your PC will run it fine, possibly with only a video card upgrade. You could get an Nvidia 970 and install that in your PC.

My PC is also 5 years old, and it has no problem with TGC. Core i7-860 CPU, Nvidia 970 GPU.

[Psw757]

[QUOTE=Shardak;n67035




I did use my Macbook with TGC, but have since changed to my gaming PC.

The macbook is able to run TGC pretty well (30fps) at 1280x1024 on medium settings. But it starts to get choppy at higher resolutions. I wanted to run at 1920x1080, so I swichted to my gaming PC (and a wireless HDMI kit, as my PC is on the other side of the house).

15 inch Macbook 2015, ATI 370x GPU[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure what I'm going to do with the computer.

I need to buy whatever I'm going to use as my existing PC is 5 years old and have a couple iPads. I either need to get a new laptop or some sort of PC but it would be nice to be able to use something from an off the shelf store like Best Buy. I'm not a computer whiz!

Seems most notebooks have either gtx 960/970/980m cards. Any idea how many fps these will give me with high resolution and med/high setting?

Not sure if this is adequate for the type of setup I'm doing in a garage.

[Shardak]

I see your using a mac book with boot camp to run tgc, watching your video it seems to be doing a pretty darn good job. Any issues or complaints with that setup?

Thanks again!

I did use my Macbook with TGC, but have since changed to my gaming PC.

The macbook is able to run TGC pretty well (30fps) at 1280x1024 on medium settings. But it starts to get choppy at higher resolutions. I wanted to run at 1920x1080, so I swichted to my gaming PC (and a wireless HDMI kit, as my PC is on the other side of the house).

15 inch Macbook 2015, ATI 370x GPU

[Psw757]

I would think that ceiling mounting is the way to go. Gets rid of shadows. But other than shadows, play around with your measurements at projector central and see what works best regarding image size and brightness at the distances you are considering.

I'm not sure why I didn't realize this sooner but it just donned on me after reading all the posts again that you are the net return pro and not the sim model.

I actually think the way you are doing this is the way to go, saves a ton of money with the same result.

Couple more questions of you don't mind,

If I'm planning on going with a 5x5 hitting mat for the tee area, is there something you would recommend for the area from screen back to CCE mat to dampen the falling balls?

I see your using a mac book with boot camp to run tgc, watching your video it seems to be doing a pretty darn good job. Any issues or complaints with that setup?

Thanks again!

[Shardak]

I've got the pro series screen on order. I have 11 ft ceilings in the garage and hit from about 6 ft. I have a back wall at about 14ft from the screen. Do I want to go 1085ST and mount it at 8 ft back in the ceiling, or do I just go with some regular non-ST and mount it on the back wall? The ground box option seems out for me since I'm hitting pretty close. Thoughts?

I would think that ceiling mounting is the way to go. Gets rid of shadows. But other than shadows, play around with your measurements at projector central and see what works best regarding image size and brightness at the distances you are considering.

[Psw757]

I'm a novice at all of this and have a bunch of questions myself but I think your projector needs to be above or I front of you if hitting that close to avoid shadows. I'm just taking a guess here though.

[Cinderellaboy]

I've got the pro series screen on order. I have 11 ft ceilings in the garage and hit from about 6 ft. I have a back wall at about 14ft from the screen. Do I want to go 1085ST and mount it at 8 ft back in the ceiling, or do I just go with some regular non-ST and mount it on the back wall? The ground box option seems out for me since I'm hitting pretty close. Thoughts?

[Psw757]

I did all my projector research on ProjectorCentral.com and found their measurements were 100% accurate when I received my BenQ 1085ST.

For me, I started with the idea that I needed a short-throw projector. This would allow me to mount it up high and close to the screen, minimizing any shadows. That narrows down the projector market alot, since there are not many short-throw models out there.

The BenQ 1085ST and older 1070 are 2 good choices. There are others by Optoma that look OK, but I dont think they had the zoom and keystone features.

I also knew I wanted zoom, because I was not sure what resolution I would run and was hoping I could mount the projector in one place and then use Zoom to allow me to switch resolutions without having to move the physical location of the projector. This did not quite work out. The zoom range on the BenQ 1085 is not enough to allow me to fit a 1920x1080 image on the screen (filling the screen width), and also a screen-filling 1280x1024. Even with the zoom, the widescreen image spills over the edges about 1-2 inches. If there was like 5% more zoom range, it would have been perfect.

So at the moment I have my projector mounted about 7 feet from the screen. This allows me to zoom in and get a 1280x1024 image filling up the entire netreturn impact screen. If I change to 1920x1080 and zoom out, I get a couple inches of image on each side projected on the wall behind the screen. Its a small enough amount of spillage that I can still see all the UI elements in The Golf Club, so its not terrible. But if I end up deciding I want to stick with 1920x1080, I will need to move the projector a couple inches closer to the screen.

I would recommend these features.

1) Short Throw

2) maybe zoom (not needed if you are sure about your screen size, resolution and mounting location)

3) Vertical Keystone - this is needed if you mount your projector above or below the screen, and have to angle it up or down a bit. You should try to mount the projector so that you do not need to use keystone, as it degrades the image quality. But if that is not an option, you will want keystone to correct the geometry of the picture.

I think this must be why the net return mount is positioned 5'9" from the screen utilizing their mount system. I'm assuming the benq 1085st would probably fill the screen in either resolution at this distance.

This mount is expensive but appears to be a little over 9 ft high and if hitting 3-4 feet behind it doesn't come into play. I also like that it keeps the power and hdmi cables neatly integrated into the arm.

I'm not sure I would be able to mount in ceiling that close due to my 11 ft ceiling height in garage.

[Shardak]

I did all my projector research on ProjectorCentral.com and found their measurements were 100% accurate when I received my BenQ 1085ST.

For me, I started with the idea that I needed a short-throw projector. This would allow me to mount it up high and close to the screen, minimizing any shadows. That narrows down the projector market alot, since there are not many short-throw models out there.

The BenQ 1085ST and older 1070 are 2 good choices. There are others by Optoma that look OK, but I dont think they had the zoom and keystone features.

I also knew I wanted zoom, because I was not sure what resolution I would run and was hoping I could mount the projector in one place and then use Zoom to allow me to switch resolutions without having to move the physical location of the projector. This did not quite work out. The zoom range on the BenQ 1085 is not enough to allow me to fit a 1920x1080 image on the screen (filling the screen width), and also a screen-filling 1280x1024. Even with the zoom, the widescreen image spills over the edges about 1-2 inches. If there was like 5% more zoom range, it would have been perfect.

So at the moment I have my projector mounted about 7 feet from the screen. This allows me to zoom in and get a 1280x1024 image filling up the entire netreturn impact screen. If I change to 1920x1080 and zoom out, I get a couple inches of image on each side projected on the wall behind the screen. Its a small enough amount of spillage that I can still see all the UI elements in The Golf Club, so its not terrible. But if I end up deciding I want to stick with 1920x1080, I will need to move the projector a couple inches closer to the screen.

I would recommend these features.

1) Short Throw

2) maybe zoom (not needed if you are sure about your screen size, resolution and mounting location)

3) Vertical Keystone - this is needed if you mount your projector above or below the screen, and have to angle it up or down a bit. You should try to mount the projector so that you do not need to use keystone, as it degrades the image quality. But if that is not an option, you will want keystone to correct the geometry of the picture.

[Psw757]

Is there a projector that Net Return recommends for their screens since it is an awkward size?


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They recommend an infocus 118hd ultra short throw which there aren't a whole lot of reviews on but the owner Paul indicated there are several other options that would work.

Any idea how to determine which ones will work and have adjustments to fill the screen?

[Cinderellaboy]

Is there a projector that Net Return recommends for their screens since it is an awkward size?


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[Psw757]

I don't think the image looks bad at all and I see what your saying about the wavy picture at bottom. I there is a way to tighten that up ever so slightly probably be much different.

I'm guessing if you hardwired the hdmi you could get it to the 1600x1200 and knowing this before hand is probably how I will choose to run it.

How far is your projector from the screen to achieve that picture for to screen?

The next big thing I need to determine is a cpu to run the darn thing. I greatly prefer a laptop and am having a heck of a time finding one with a adequate gpu. I like apple stuff and would like to have skytrak and tgc/wgt all on one device.

Any suggestions on the computer?

Thanks for all the help so far!