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  • My Fold Up Golf Sim build V2 UK

    Back at the beginning of 2015, I had a go at turning my 2 car garage into a simulator room. One of the main issues I faced was that I had to have it collapsable... so that the room could still get 2 cars in if required. It took me several months to get it to where I wanted, but I was never really happy with it. I did a build thread here: http://golfsimulatorforum.com/forum/...lator-build-uk

    Due to the fact that I'd already spent a load on a GC2, I was trying to do the room on a small budget. Unfortunately, you get what you pay for, and as a result I had a pretty low quality setup.
    The screen was only attached to the ceiling, and was made of the archery weave netting. The image quality was pretty poor, and the screen continually looked warped, wrinkled, and out of shape.


    Having spent a lot of time on this forum, I saw lots of other peoples build ideas and got envious! There are some fantastic examples out there, and mine was pretty poor. I hardly used it because it was a hassle to hook and unhook my curtains all the time, and I also felt like I had to tidy away my astroturf boards when it wasn't being used.

    There was some severe flooding in my town at the beginning of 2016. Thankfully I was barely effected, but there was still enough water for my screen / curtains to get soaked - as well as my garage floor getting damaged. This gave me the incentive to start again.
    Firstly - the water had got in under my "up and over" garage door. By replacing this with a roller door, I could ensure that I had a tight seal, which water wouldn't be able to penetrate. The added bonus being that it removed the requirement for runner rails inside the garage. Much more room to swing!

    The next step was to get the floor replaced.
    In order to prevent me needing astroturf or similar, I went with a "wet pour" floor, which is a safety surface. Essentially it's a covering of crumb rubber, and looks really good. I had it done in a dark grey colour with a silver speckle through it. They usually use this type of surface in kids play areas as it's soft when kids fall off the swings etc. I had them lay a thinner layer (20mm) so that a bouncing golf ball stops after a bounce or two - unlike my previous concrete floor which acted like a ping pong table!


    From reading everyone else's build threads, I realised that the best way to attach a screen was to a frame - not directly to the ceiling!
    The problem for me was getting a frame that I could make disappear. I spent a lot of time thinking about this and eventually came up with the idea of hinging it to the ceiling. This was only made possibly by the removal of the garage door runners - so another benefit for changing the door! I spent a lot of time deliberating between timber and steel for my frame, and eventually decided on 26.9mm tube clamp from https://www.themetalstore.co.uk/products/tube-clamp. It's very similar to the 1" EMT piping lots of people on here use, but the ends clamp together using a hex bolt.
    As I wanted the frame to be hinged from the ceiling, it had to be pretty sturdy. I drew loads of sketches, and finally came up with this:


    I was going to use the wall mount brackets as ceiling mounts. If I didn't tighten the hex bolt inside them, they would act as a hinge. I checked with the manufacturer, who confirmed this would work. I ordered it slightly lower than my ceiling, so that I could attach it to a giant piece of timber. That way I could ensure that I got ceiling joists. The good thing about themetalstore, is that you can specify the exact lengths you want, and they cut them for you. All I had to do was assemble it like meccanno when it arrived! I used a torque wrench to ensure that all the bolts were tightened to the same level. The last thing I want is something coming undone when its folded up against the ceiling and my car is underneath it!!!
    Last edited by p3eps; 08-02-2016, 09:47 PM.

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    the posted pics don't show up for me. are they working for anyone else??? I would love to see them as I'm trying a similar build and want to reference this build.

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      Photobucket have changed their account rules, and now want $400 per year for image hosting. Sadly, I'm not prepared to pay that for hosting images on a forum.
      I've asked in the general forum if there is anything out there similar for free to host the images - but no one has replied!

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      • weakhead
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        google photos, dropbox, flickr, imgur

      • p3eps
        p3eps commented
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        Do they allow 3rd party hosting? I've used Photobucket for 10+ years now for putting images on various forums, and now they've changed their T&C to prevent 3rd party hosting (linking images).
        The other issue is that I can no longer edit this post - so I've have to completely start again... although that'd just be a copy and paste job.

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          • #36
            Just playing with different image hosts. Google images won't let you do 3rd party hosting. Seems imgur works.
            Looks like I'm starting again, as I can't edit this thread!!

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            • #37
              wow! that looks amazing! Very cool. I just built my frame and would love to see how you've attached your screen, foam padding, and net. If you have a photo or two showing that from earlier in this thread I'd love for you to share them again. Thank you sir.

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              • #38
                Originally posted by gratefulRed View Post
                wow! that looks amazing! Very cool. I just built my frame and would love to see how you've attached your screen, foam padding, and net. If you have a photo or two showing that from earlier in this thread I'd love for you to share them again. Thank you sir.
                I'll give you a couple of pics just now, but I'll be re-doing this whole post when I get a chance at some point this week.
                Just back from holidays, so have a few things to do first!

                Bare frame - attached to the ceiling.


                Here is the net - tie wrapped to the frame:


                Here is the screen infront of the net. It's held on with the ball bungees. I'll get some close ups of the way it attaches when I re-do this:


                This is the side trim - which is essentially double sided "fluffy' velcro that's covering the bungees.


                Once I knew where my projected image stopped, I was able to order the top trim in the correct size (same as side trim, but to fill in the blank space at the top.)


                Ceiling net was added. This sticks onto the top trim, and then pulled tight onto a beam across the ceiling.


                Folded away!


                Garage door open and all the lights on - hence the very washed out picture. Gives you an idea of what it looks like though. It's moved on a bit since this thread was created, so I'll detail it all in my new post. I'm still not 100% finished as I add / change things as I feel the need to!



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                • #39
                  thank you very much for posting these photos! My frame is nearly identical to yours and I've been wondering how I can get it out of the way when I want to use my garage for cars and other projects. I love the solution you came up with. Those brackets that allow the pipe to rotate, while still holding the top edge of the frame are really ideal it seems. I don't recall seeing anything like those at my local Home Depot, where I bought my EMT piping. Any particular reason your timber is so thick?? Was it to keep the top edge of your frame at a specified height or what??

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                    The timber is so thick as I wanted something pretty sturdy to screw the frame (hinges) into. After all - these are supporting the entire weight of the frame when it's retracted - and I have cars under there! I didn't want to take any chances with it falling. I can't remember the exact size, but this was a standard piece of off the shelf timber. I just had to trim the length down a wee bit.

                    My frame is actually sold as a safety hand rail. The brackets I'm using are designed for attaching it to a wall.

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                    • #41
                      upon closer inspection of your frame....it appears the back side has no "feet" (doesn't touch the ground). Is that correct?? I guess it was done that way so when you lift it up to store against the ceiling, there are no back legs to clear the ground?? Mine has back legs and I may have to reconfigure in order to have my attached via hinges on the ceiling to swing it up and out of the way. Dang...this is going to take some precise measurements to pull this off. Do you have any photos of how your frame connects to the ceiling when it's in the stored position?? The opposite end of the hinged side??

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                      • #42
                        You're 100% correct!! If it touched the ground at the back, then it wouldn't be able to hinge. There was a lot of thought went into this... as well as lots of drawings!!
                        Here is a sketch of what I went with. I think the sizes are slightly different (30cm depth rather than 40cm on the drawing) - although the design is the same.


                        Here is the bottom of my frame attached to a line from a winch by a D-shackle. It is hoisted through a couple of pulleys.






                        Hope that helps?

                        I'm half way through re-doing my post - it should be online in the next couple of days.
                        I'm doing it offline so that I can post it all at once without getting random comments in the middle of me typing!!

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                        • #43
                          Wow. There was quite a bit of engineering that went into this build !! Nice job. I appreciate you posting these photos, as they are helping me to figure out my own setup. I love the winch set-up, but not sure I'll be able to go that route, because I can't find any pipe brackets like you've used (both on your frame, where it attaches to the timber and the ones holding your winch piping). I may have to use some heavy duty hanging hooks that I would simply (hopefully) just lift the frame up into when I want to put it out of the way. I still have some planning/designing to do !! Thanks again sir !!!

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                          • #44
                            Have questions p3eps you have the impact screen memory foam and netting attached to your fromt EMT bars correct is there anything on the back ones.

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                            • #45
                              Originally posted by LeftyLeff52 View Post
                              Have questions p3eps you have the impact screen memory foam and netting attached to your fromt EMT bars correct is there anything on the back ones.
                              Everything was attached to the front bar. I wanted the mattress topper to be directly behind the screen / net to absorb the ball. The back section is only there to give the frame a cube shape - to give it some rigidity for when I hoist it up.

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