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    Hi all,

    I promised I would write up my impressions of the Fiberbuilt Performance mat system once I had it set up and able to run it through it's paces... I am coming from a 5 year old Monster Turf matt, and was looking for something a little firmer to stand on, and less punishing on my wrists/arms. I had narrowed my choices down to Fiberbuilt or a CCE mat. Here are my impressions of the Fiberbuilt:

    Construction/Materials

    The mat I purchased is the 4x5 Single Sided Performance Mat here: http://www.fiberbuilt.com/golf/produ...nce-mat-nylon/

    This set up is substantial. Comes with 4 heavy rubber frame like base sections. Styrofoam squares fit into the rubber frames for stability. It also comes with a 3' x 1' hitting strip also very heavy, and a 4x4 stance mat that is very similar to a CCE, and can be hit off of as well. It's a good concept and makes it much lighter for shipping. The whole setup is heavy enough not to slide around when assembled, and is very well contstructed. The panels are held together at the corners and center by zip ties. I love that this thing is industrial quality stuff.

    Things I didn't like - the zip ties were horrible. I swear half the package didn't secure well, so wasted half of them. No worries, there were plenty of extra. Also, it's not a portable or movable setup. If you need to move it out of the way regularly, this just won't work on its own. The rubber base is flimsy, and the foam panels will pop right out if you try to lift or slide it out of the way... additionally is very heavy, and not easy to move. What I did was secure the rubber panels to a 4x5 platform that's about 2" high. I used some drywall screws and large washers, and drove the screws inside the existing holes where the zip ties secure the panels together, with large washers to hold the mat in place, and then used some duct tape to secure the foam panels in the base. I have caster wheels on one side of the platform, so I can tilt up the entire mat system, and wheel it to the side of my garage where I can lean it against the wall. Works fine.. but I need to find a better way to hold the stance mat in place when moving it... The hitting strip easily pulls out and I can store that out of the way easily.

    Cost
    The system cost me $300 shipped direct from Fiberbuilt on holiday special pricing. A very fair price given other high quality mat systems.

    Performance
    The stance mat is great. It's firm enough to feel stable and hit off of. Much improved from my Monster Turf that was quite squishy under foot. This mat is soft, but not squishy. Very similar to a CCE feel. The hitting strip fiber material is also very good. I was worried about a few things before purchase. First that the long fibers would not be very stiff, and the ball would sink in, and grounding my club behind the ball at setup would be very difficult if the fibers aren't stiff enough. Second, I was concerned that I would not be able to feel poor strikes (fat shots in particular) given all the comments I have read on how overly forgiving the fiberbuilt hitting material can be. Both concerns were put to rest. The long grass like fibers in the hitting strip are very very firm/stiff. The ball sits up very nicely, and I can gently ground my club behind the ball without it sinking into the fibers or anything. I can easily tell when I hit a shot fat, and actually at times, it almost feels a little more punishing than my Monster Turf when I really dig in and hit a shot steep and fat given the hard plastic bottom the turf is secured into. Granted if I bottom out my club to the base material, it was a HORRIBLE fat shot!... it's rare this occurrs, and a swing that bad deserves to be punished!

    At any rate, this hitting strip is wonderful. It feels fairly realistic, and I get good distance and accurate spin numbers from what I can tell when using my SkyTrak. What I like most about this material is the ability to hit hybrid and fairway woods off this material. It was very difficult hitting woods/hybrids off the monster tee. Feels much more realistic hitting woods off the fiberbuilt material.. much less "bounce" off the mat surface than with the Monster Tee turf I had before. The fibers also don't "grab" the club as aggressively which is nice!

    The hitting strip comes with several holes for a rubber tee or rubber adustible tee. I have used an adjustible tee in the tee holes and it works well, but with the SkyTrak it is a bit of a pain moving the SkyTrak around to use the tee hole when hitting driver, then move it again to hit irons off the ground away from the tee holes... so I purchased some Tomahawk Tees so I can tee up on those when hitting driver, and not have to move the SkyTrak when hitting irons... to be honest, I'm not that impressed with the Tomahawk Tees when used with the fiberbuilt hitting material. They sink into the fiberbuilt fibers easily, and need to be pressed into the fibers a bit before they become stable enough to hold a ball, and when pressed into the fibers that far, they are too short for my driver. My work around is to stack 3 tomahawk tees together to make it a little higher and this works for now until I can find another/better solution. The fiberbuilt hitting material will not hold a regular tee.

    Summary
    Overall I am very impressed with the Fiberbuilt performance mat system, and very happy with my decision. My concerns around the material being too forgiving for me to notice mishits are certainly put to rest, as I can easily feel when I mis-hit a shot, which is exactly what I wanted. When playing some sim golf, I was penalized an appropriate amount of yardage for fat shots, while being less physically punishing to my wrists and arms. Best of both worlds if you ask me... I do wish it could be a more portable for my particular application, but I don't believe someone like me that needs to use my garage for golf practice, then move my mat out of the way to park my cars, is the target demographic for this setup/system. I can't fault the product for that. It's a substantial mat system that is more likely meant to be used commercially at a range, not moved or transported regularly. If your setup is pretty permanent, you won't have a problem. This setup should be the last mat I need to buy if it holds up as well as I expect it to... the 4x4 stance mat can be rotated to avoid wear, and the three 1x1 foot squares of the hitting strip can also be moved around if any sections start to wear as time goes on, but the hitting surface is rated for 100,000 strikes.. so I don't see myself wearing this out any time soon.

    If anyone has any specific questions or want opinions on anything in particular, I'd be happy to answer what I can... just let me know.
    Last edited by tonybrown32; 12-19-2017, 03:31 PM. Reason: Added link to the mat

  • #2
    Can you please post a link to it

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    • tonybrown32
      tonybrown32 commented
      Editing a comment
      Sure thing.. I edited the original post to include the link. Sorry about that!

  • #3
    Good review. I love my fiberbuilt. You can just hit forever without pain.

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    • #4
      Can anybody post a link as to what they purchased....... My back hurts !! Looking to try something new.

      pay no attention to the idiot !!! I just saw the link in the 1st post.

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      • #5
        If you search around, there is an alternative to tomahawk tees that are the same concept but taller. Should help with your driver. I think it's birtee if i remember correctly.

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        • #6
          Originally posted by wbond View Post
          If you search around, there is an alternative to tomahawk tees that are the same concept but taller. Should help with your driver. I think it's birtee if i remember correctly.
          Great thanks for the tip! I'll look around.... it was hard to find the tomahawk tees, they are out of stock on Amazon and many other places.. finally found them on eBay.

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          • #7
            Originally posted by tonybrown32
            Hi all,

            I promised I would write up my impressions of the Fiberbuilt Performance mat system once I had it set up and able to run it through it's paces... I am coming from a 5 year old Monster Turf matt, and was looking for something a little firmer to stand on, and less punishing on my wrists/arms. I had narrowed my choices down to Fiberbuilt or a CCE mat. Here are my impressions of the Fiberbuilt:

            Construction/Materials

            The mat I purchased is the 4x5 Single Sided Performance Mat here: http://www.fiberbuilt.com/golf/produ...nce-mat-nylon/

            This set up is substantial. Comes with 4 heavy rubber frame like base sections. Styrofoam squares fit into the rubber frames for stability. It also comes with a 3' x 1' hitting strip also very heavy, and a 4x4 stance mat that is very similar to a CCE, and can be hit off of as well. It's a good concept and makes it much lighter for shipping. The whole setup is heavy enough not to slide around when assembled, and is very well contstructed. The panels are held together at the corners and center by zip ties. I love that this thing is industrial quality stuff.

            Things I didn't like - the zip ties were horrible. I swear half the package didn't secure well, so wasted half of them. No worries, there were plenty of extra. Also, it's not a portable or movable setup. If you need to move it out of the way regularly, this just won't work on its own. The rubber base is flimsy, and the foam panels will pop right out if you try to lift or slide it out of the way... additionally is very heavy, and not easy to move. What I did was secure the rubber panels to a 4x5 platform that's about 2" high. I used some drywall screws and large washers, and drove the screws inside the existing holes where the zip ties secure the panels together, with large washers to hold the mat in place, and then used some duct tape to secure the foam panels in the base. I have caster wheels on one side of the platform, so I can tilt up the entire mat system, and wheel it to the side of my garage where I can lean it against the wall. Works fine.. but I need to find a better way to hold the stance mat in place when moving it... The hitting strip easily pulls out and I can store that out of the way easily.

            Cost
            The system cost me $300 shipped direct from Fiberbuilt on holiday special pricing. A very fair price given other high quality mat systems.

            Performance
            The stance mat is great. It's firm enough to feel stable and hit off of. Much improved from my Monster Turf that was quite squishy under foot. This mat is soft, but not squishy. Very similar to a CCE feel. The hitting strip fiber material is also very good. I was worried about a few things before purchase. First that the long fibers would not be very stiff, and the ball would sink in, and grounding my club behind the ball at setup would be very difficult if the fibers aren't stiff enough. Second, I was concerned that I would not be able to feel poor strikes (fat shots in particular) given all the comments I have read on how overly forgiving the fiberbuilt hitting material can be. Both concerns were put to rest. The long grass like fibers in the hitting strip are very very firm/stiff. The ball sits up very nicely, and I can gently ground my club behind the ball without it sinking into the fibers or anything. I can easily tell when I hit a shot fat, and actually at times, it almost feels a little more punishing than my Monster Turf when I really dig in and hit a shot steep and fat given the hard plastic bottom the turf is secured into. Granted if I bottom out my club to the base material, it was a HORRIBLE fat shot!... it's rare this occurrs, and a swing that bad deserves to be punished!

            At any rate, this hitting strip is wonderful. It feels fairly realistic, and I get good distance and accurate spin numbers from what I can tell when using my SkyTrak. What I like most about this material is the ability to hit hybrid and fairway woods off this material. It was very difficult hitting woods/hybrids off the monster tee. Feels much more realistic hitting woods off the fiberbuilt material.. much less "bounce" off the mat surface than with the Monster Tee turf I had before. The fibers also don't "grab" the club as aggressively which is nice!

            The hitting strip comes with several holes for a rubber tee or rubber adustible tee. I have used an adjustible tee in the tee holes and it works well, but with the SkyTrak it is a bit of a pain moving the SkyTrak around to use the tee hole when hitting driver, then move it again to hit irons off the ground away from the tee holes... so I purchased some Tomahawk Tees so I can tee up on those when hitting driver, and not have to move the SkyTrak when hitting irons... to be honest, I'm not that impressed with the Tomahawk Tees when used with the fiberbuilt hitting material. They sink into the fiberbuilt fibers easily, and need to be pressed into the fibers a bit before they become stable enough to hold a ball, and when pressed into the fibers that far, they are too short for my driver. My work around is to stack 3 tomahawk tees together to make it a little higher and this works for now until I can find another/better solution. The fiberbuilt hitting material will not hold a regular tee.

            Summary
            Overall I am very impressed with the Fiberbuilt performance mat system, and very happy with my decision. My concerns around the material being too forgiving for me to notice mishits are certainly put to rest, as I can easily feel when I mis-hit a shot, which is exactly what I wanted. When playing some sim golf, I was penalized an appropriate amount of yardage for fat shots, while being less physically punishing to my wrists and arms. Best of both worlds if you ask me... I do wish it could be a more portable for my particular application, but I don't believe someone like me that needs to use my garage for golf practice, then move my mat out of the way to park my cars, is the target demographic for this setup/system. I can't fault the product for that. It's a substantial mat system that is more likely meant to be used commercially at a range, not moved or transported regularly. If your setup is pretty permanent, you won't have a problem. This setup should be the last mat I need to buy if it holds up as well as I expect it to... the 4x4 stance mat can be rotated to avoid wear, and the three 1x1 foot squares of the hitting strip can also be moved around if any sections start to wear as time goes on, but the hitting surface is rated for 100,000 strikes.. so I don't see myself wearing this out any time soon.

            If anyone has any specific questions or want opinions on anything in particular, I'd be happy to answer what I can... just let me know.
            Would you mind posting a close up of the turf? I bought a Flight deck to try out Fiberbuilt, but I have a suspicion it is much lower quality stuff then what is on these mats. Thanks!

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            • #8
              Originally posted by TheUsualSuspect View Post

              Would you mind posting a close up of the turf? I bought a Flight deck to try out Fiberbuilt, but I have a suspicion it is much lower quality stuff then what is on these mats. Thanks!
              Sure thing! Here is a shot of my setup (not pretty but functional!), then a close up of the hitting strip/fibers... and a shot of the whole system attached to my movable platform.. you can see the caster wheels on the left side, and the right side has a sturdy handle to lift it up on edge, and I can roll it over to the side of the garage when I don't use it.

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              • #9
                Hi You mentioned some sim play. Did you get a chance to putt off of the fiber built? If so, what were your thoughts?

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by captnkrusty View Post
                  Hi You mentioned some sim play. Did you get a chance to putt off of the fiber built? If so, what were your thoughts?
                  If you are moving to gc2 (based on signature), you can putt off your stance mat, field of view should be big enough for both.

                  for skytrak you can use a under counter coffee slide tray from $10 off amazon to slide the skytrak closer and use stance mat I bet.

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by captnkrusty View Post
                    Hi You mentioned some sim play. Did you get a chance to putt off of the fiber built? If so, what were your thoughts?
                    I'm playing on the E6 demo I got for 30 days free with the SkyTrak, and not putting at all. I have played sim golf plenty of times before in a studio with a nice setup, and my personal opinion is that sim putting is a crapshoot at best anyway. It's fun to hit a variety of clubs on a sim course though, and just let the computer choose how many putts I took once I get on the green.... for me, putting is a huge feel things, and not "feeling" the green or slope under my feet when putting is a turn off.

                    Now, I did take a few putts off the Fiberbuilt for you though.. on the 3 foot section of turf, hard to tell much really. The FB turf really grabs the ball though.. very slow speed putting on this, and the ball does wobble offline and back online a bit, but honestly not any more than on the stance matt. The speed difference between the FB hitting turf, and the stance mat, is very noticible. Neither will give you a "true" roll in my opinion... however the sim is only snapping a shot of your ball judging spin, speed, etc.. not watching the whole roll of the ball to the hole, so in my opinion putting off of it won't be any better or worse than any other hitting mat surface.

                    The other challenge on this fiberbuilt single side performance mat setup, is that there is about a 6 inch long rubber section just in front of the hitting strip, making it hard to create a continuous putting surface all the way to the screen if that's what you are looking for. Would be better off putting off of the stance mat if that's the setup you desire... maybe using some sliding tray to move the SkyTrak back and forth to get the red dot on the hitting strip for shots, and then move to the stance mat for putting.

                    If you just lanuch your putts off the edge of the hitting strip though, and don't care about the roll all the way to the screen, should be fine... I'll have to try that a bit if I get a chance before my 30 day trial runs out.

                    I doubt I'll purchase any sim golf course packages. It's fun.. but I get all I need with the $99 game improvement package in SkyTrak honestly... If I had a nice full indoor setup with 11 foot ceilings, and would stay toasty warm all winter, I would likely play sim golf courses way more... with the garage setup, and temps reaching 40-45 degrees max with the space heater cranked, not nearly as fun spending a few hours out there... but great to spend 45-60 min a day out on the range working on things in the off season..



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                    • #12
                      Thanks Tony and Stingreye. I currently just launch my putt of the edge of my hitting mat. I agree that putting is a necessary evil in sim play In other words, Im terrible at it and still getting used to it. I spoke to fiber built today and will most likely place my order tomorrow.

                      Thanks again for the review and feedback

                      I hope everyone has a great holiday season!!

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                      • #13
                        Ordered today..... my back can't wait !!

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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by StanMI View Post
                          Ordered today..... my back can't wait !!
                          Great! Let us know how you like it.

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                          • #15
                            Totally agree! I believe this is best mat on the market today - extremely well built for indoor golf.

                            I hit roughly 150-200 balls a day on this mat - no pain.

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