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  • Let's Talk About Estimated Brightness, and What the @#$&! is a foot-Lambert

    Good Evening Golf Sim Hive Mind,

    I've narrowed my projector choices to just 3. All are Optoma. All have a 1920x1080 resolution. The only meaningful differences are the brightness. Here's a link to the comparison on Projector Central: Projector Comparison

    The GT1080HDRx and the GT1090HDRx are essentially the same projector. the 1080 has 3800 lumens and the 1090 gets 400 more lumens, a total of 4200 lumens, for twice the price (isn't that nice).

    The ZH406STx is $500 more and has all the same features as the 1090. I cant really discern any appreciable difference. I don't know what makes it $500 better. Does anyone know?

    And here's where it get's interesting:

    If I run the calculator on these projectors and look at the brightness calculations things stop making sense, so i've created at table!

    PROJECTOR LUMENS MANUFACTURER SPEC CALC ESTIMATE WEBSITE
    GT1080HDRx 3800 38 26 51
    GT1090HDRx 4200 42 28 56
    ZH406STx 4200 - 42 60
    First off, does anyone know what the 'x' in the model name means? can't find it anywhere!

    The projector central calculator seems to think most projectors aren't as bright as the manufacturer says they, and that's fine. What I'm not really understanding is why one projector with 4200 lumens is brighter that another with 4200 lumens, when everything about then is nearly identical. We're talking about a 50% increase in brightness according to the calculator's estimate. The other weirdness is that the calculator gives differing qualitative assessments of the brightness. It says the ZH406, at 42 fL, is recommended for rooms with low ambient light, while the GT1090 at 28fL is is perfectly suitable for rooms with high ambient light. WHAT GIVES?!?! I might be willing to pay the extra money for a significant increase in brightness, but with this info I can't really be sure what I'm getting.

    Is anyone using any of these projectors? Care to post a picture of your projected image? Or use one of the free apps to measure the ambient light in your room?

    I want to buy the projector that is going to give me an adequately bright image when the room has high ambient light, like when I'm playing sim golf with friends. If the relatively inexpensive GT1080 give me that, then that's great. If I get a significantly brighter image with one of the 4200 lumen units I'd consider the extra cost, but we're talking about a roughly 10% increase in lumens for a 100% increase (or more) in cost. doesn't seem worth it and the numbers don't add up.

    I patiently await you insights and recommendations!

  • #2
    Great questions. Brightness is somewhat subjective IMO - one person's "super-bright" projector does not even rate in another's set-up. Here are a few "opinions"
    • Between 1080 and 1090 - 1090 all day long. The Laser Lamp will last much longer and not degrade as quickly as traditional metal hydride lamps. Just take a look at the specs (4,000 hours vs 30,000 hours!). Also looks like you get additional keystone correction modes. And - it is brighter.
    • WRT Lumens - this is a tricky measurement. First - they are not all measured the same way - even amongst same OEM. Lot's of articles discussing online - this is one: Projector Lumens: A Complete and Accurate Guide! (thehometheaterdiy.com). Another good one is here: A Simple Guide to Calculating Lumens (projectorcentral.com)
    • ​You can (and will) get different results with different screens. Again, read the articles - specifically the projector central one.​
    • Between the 1090 and the 406 I think you would really need to dig into the details by comparing the user manuals for capabilities. They look really close to me and all I can see quickly is a lot of additional Creston/Extron/Telnet support etc. which may or may not be important to you. For my money - 1090 again.
    Bottom line, do some additional research and I am sure you will come to a conclusion. For my money with your consids, I would be going 1090 if that helps.

    Good Luck!

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    • #3
      I agree with jasonreg.

      Here's a great article on Lumens, Lux, Foot-Lamberts & Nits. https://www.benq.com/en-sg/knowledge...si-lumens.html

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      • #4
        Thanks for the great replies and link to articles! I completely overlooked the life of the lamp in all of this. That 700%+ difference more than covers the additional cost between 1080 and 1090 in my book.

        I've also been low key wondering about 'screen gain', and not to thread-jack my own thread, but I'm currently leaning towards the DIY screen material sold by dbgolf72 in THIS thread, and I don't see a mention of the screen gain for this material. Anyone know? Based on the quick skim of the projector central article I just did I'm guessing it's about 1.

        I think I'm about to buy a GT1090HDRx

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