Mevo+ inaccurate distances help

[3on3putt]

Well you guys are probably sick of my updates. just got more swings with just driver and max 200 yards. I was paying attention to the spin and every one was over 4k. One was 7k that one only went 170. So I’ll do some research on spin and try and give you guys a breather.

Yikes. 4k is a lot. 7k is off the charts. Spin is the ultimate distance killer. What kind of ball are you using? If you really want to experiment, hit some ProV1's and then a distance ball like a Titleist Velocity or a Taylormade Distance. You'll really see what spin does to the flight of a ball.

[AdamV]

Are you using the metallic dots on the ball?

[airbaker]

Okay well interesting update guys. After unplugging the electric fence I instantly got better results. I got the 8 iron to go further. Not where I thought but consistently further. And I stopped getting no reads.
i got the driver further than I had before so progress. And swing speed with driver showing 95 not 90 now. So not sure why but I think that’s probably closer to what I am.

also discovered there was 10 mph of wind in my face on the e6 range. The setting to remove wind is grayed out and I can’t disable it. Searched it and saw same problem with no solution.

so I went to FS golf app. Had to play around with the angle but got a longer distance that I had before. Perhaps with no wind and a machine not receiving electric dog signals I am getting somewhere. Got 221 carry and 238 total. Just when I was making progress the unit died. I guess that’s another story. It is plugged in and keeps dying on my while plugged in. I saw what someone posted earlier and I feel like I am following the steps to use it while plugged in but something I am doing must not be right.

the high driver spin numbers are sticking out to me now. I’m thinking the driver carry should be close to 240 so I will see if in FS golf I can get the spin down.
the app isn’t as fun to use as e6 driving range but if no wind in my face I’ll take it.
thoughts guys?

I"m not in any way trying to demean you, so please I hope you take this as constructive. Your spin numbers are very high with a high launch angle (that's a bad combo), indicating a poor delivery to the ball. Most likely early extend and early release, flipping at the ball. Your swing speed is above average, so if you could improve your swing mechanics and get your numbers down to 2200-2400 spin and 13'ish launch, you'd get an extra 15-20 yards of carry. If you're able to show a video of your swing we could do a deeper dive.

[jls141]

I don’t take it demeaning at all where else can I get free personalized help with golf swing.
I am not always using the metallic dot as I was not really seeing much of a difference when I did vs when I didn’t but I’ll try to.
im using just crap garage balls but really when I play on the course I don’t use anything special.
Will get some decent balls to use.
I’ll try and get a video of swing and also report the numbers back for some assistance to make sense of the high spin. The question I would have is if it again is me or environment related but we will see.
I did note some of these spin issues as I was reading through other threads on this site. I also noticed one of you saying you had a towel draped over the net. I hit into a big painters canvas with a mesh blanket from harbor freight behind it which I think does most of the work for absorption. After a few hits it can come undone from the board securing it to the floor so it is free hanging and goes back maybe a foot when hit.
Will also mess around with this.

[3on3putt]

To airbaker's point above .... here is a picture of a shot that has 141 ball speed, which is the exact same ball speed as your drive that carried 221 yards. And our launch angles were identical (17 to 16). But mine carried 242. So how does mine fly 21 yards further even though they had the same ball speed and identical launch angles? Mine was spinning at 2300, yours at 3700.

You can't just figure "well my swing speed was 95 and it only carried 220 yards so the machine must be broken." It's a lot more complicated than that. With your speed, I'm guessing you do occassionally carry one 240 when you make a good strike with less spin. Your speed is good for a higher handicapper. If you can get get that spin down closer to 2000 you'll be picking up a lot of yards in the air.

This is exactly why a launch monitor is so valuable. It gives you the feedback you need to improve. It also makes it easy to tinker with different balls and shafts to see how the launch conditions compare for your swing.

I don't think there's anything wrong with your unit. Maybe a setup issue because that 8 degree angle of attack seems like probably an error. But my advice is to keep it and use the feedback to your advantage.

[jls141]

That makes total sense to me. That is where I want to get to.
I have Callaway sub zero driver so I pulled out my old m1 just to see if any different spin. I know there’s way more to it than just the model but got high spin with both.

[AdamV]

Yeh most likely very similar strike behaviour. And if the loft is similar and the shaft profile similar than you’ll get the same results.

Some great advice for you here though. I would just add that premium balls are worth the investment for LMs...and coaching, whether that’s online videos or private lessons.

And your pickup on the electric fence was a good one. If it’s repeatable then there must be some electrical or radio frequency interference disrupting the radar.

[fortner28]

The Sub Zero Driver is supposed to be one of the best drivers to help get low spin numbers. It looks like you may need to focus on getting the spin numbers down. I have the same issue. I hit the ball too high with too much spin and need to hold off a bit longer through the swing.

[JakeGeezy]

Another factor consider (because you need more factors, right) is the stiffness of your shaft. This has huge implications on spin. If your driver shaft is not appropriate for your swing speed, it can result in too much spin, causing the ball flight to balloon instead of cutting through the air. When I see high spin numbers on a driver, my first thought is incorrect shaft, then second thought is about swing mechanics.

[airbaker]

Just to give you some examples of my own evolution with my swing I've attached some pictures of swings with similar speeds, but much more efficient delivery. And as a background, I used to be competitive in AGA and in high school/college but then stopped and didn't pick up a club for 20+ years. The 2nd pic is my swing after the first few weeks of getting back into golf. The last is my most recent.

Keep at it, the journey of improvement is what makes golf incredibly fun.

[pwade3]

Great, I looked at your numbers and now my back hurts. This is your fault. 🤕

[3on3putt]

Haha yeah I feel like I should take down the photo of my 242 carry. We'll just use your tee shot sir.

[airbaker]

Haha, thanks guys but honestly that wasn’t a flex at all (it was really to show how better launch conditions improve carry) you want long, you should see the guys I play with....humbling to say the least! And a few post back I was sincere when I said better golfers don’t judge on what club you pull out of your bag; it’s just a number What matters is how consistently you hit “your” distance. You get it closer to the hole than me, you win.

[pwade3]

airbaker in honor of you. Lol 😆

[pwade3]

All kidding aside airbaker is correct. Efficiency of your swing and of striking the ball plays a large part in the physics of the ball flight. Swing speed has to be used in a correct manner. Unlike my pic above that had 90 yards of cart path roll 😆

[jls141]

Making some progress. Swing speed up over 100 on a couple good ones. Now I know as you’ve said that’s not the most important thing as I’m also paying attention to other numbers. Spin is always high so I’ll be interested to see what distance is when I can get the unit outside. At least the unit is pretty consistent now and not a lot of no reads. I do get them occasionally. I do still think distances are a little short but I can definitely see how this can help me improve.

[DS12]

Might try foot spray or impact stickers on the face of the flu to see where most of your contact is...that will explain the spin numbers (I think lower on the face creates more spin)

[3on3putt]

The carry distance is short relative to the swing speed. But when you consider the other numbers, I'd say it's accurate.

A 1.43 smash is not a real solid strike. And as a result, you only got 146 ball speed out of a 102 swing speed. So although you're getting some nice club head speed, you aren't maximizing that speed because you're missing the sweet spot. 98 on the sweet spot will outdrive 102 on the toe.

I don't know how you're getting such high spin with such an upward angle of attack. But given the low smash factor, I wonder if you're catching it high up on the face which is why you're launching it so high (19 degrees) with such high spin.

154 feet apex is also high. So basically you're launching it high with a lot of spin and it's just ballooning on you and falling out of the sky. Might just not be the right shaft. Im guessing you're teeing it up pretty high?

To me there's nothing suspicious about those numbers to think that anything is wrong with your unit. You have some decent speed. Just figure out how to get the launch angle down a little (closer to around 14 degrees), the spin down a lot (2000 is a good benchmark) and get those smash factors up around 1.49. Maybe try teeing the ball down a little. Does it feel like you're hitting it high on the face?

A launch monitor is a great practice tool. You're on the right track now. Glad you decided not to sell it! Lol.

[bubbtubbs]

Could it be flipping a bit if it's high launch and high spin? It would explain inconsistent strike too.

[jls141]

Hi Everyone. I wanted to give an update from my original post many months ago. I became frustrated with the mevo due to what I thought were inaccurate distances. After turning to many of you for help I decided to sell the unit. I just recently got a skytrak and my experience has been night and day. The skytrak worked from swing one. My distances are spot on from what I do on the course.
Perhaps I had a bad mevo unit. Perhaps my set up was somehow wrong. But at least for my own sanity it was not indoor swing syndrome.
Im really loving this skytrak so far. Looking forward to thousands of winter swings in the garage.

[Mouse]

Dang. I just ordered my Mevo last week after a lot of research. Hopefully I don't have the same issues! Are you able to post distance/spin/smash pics from the Skytrak to compare against the Mevo? Hopefully I didn't make a mistake.

[GungHoGolf]

Hi Everyone. I wanted to give an update from my original post many months ago. I became frustrated with the mevo due to what I thought were inaccurate distances. After turning to many of you for help I decided to sell the unit. I just recently got a skytrak and my experience has been night and day. The skytrak worked from swing one. My distances are spot on from what I do on the course.
Perhaps I had a bad mevo unit. Perhaps my set up was somehow wrong. But at least for my own sanity it was not indoor swing syndrome.
Im really loving this skytrak so far. Looking forward to thousands of winter swings in the garage.

I'd say your experience with the Mevo+ was atypical, and I suspect a defective unit or problem with the setup. Personally, when I have both my SkyTrak and Mevo+ running at the same time, full shots are within a few percentage points on all the important metrics: carry, spin, spin axis, and launch angles. When putting and chipping, SkyTrak is more accurate (you'd expect that with camera vs radar), but FlightScope has been gaining ground there with firmware updates.

[lujiajun]

I have similar distance issue with mevo+ in garage. I am tracking it here https://golfsimulatorforum.com/forum...detection-tool