Mevo+: Session Review and Low Spin

[drawplayer87]

Hi all,
new to the forum, but already own a Mevo+. Today I did a session and did not only look at carry, but also took spin into consideration. Worked on H.Launch.
I am going to attach a SW, 9 Iron and 3 Hybrid Data Sheet for FS golf. The carry numbers seem very fine to me (on good strikes of course) e.g SW and 9 Iron, but can you take a look at the spin? Is that even possible? When I bought my irons last year on a fitting my 7i had an average of 5,900 rpm (measured via professional Titleist fitting with Trackman, outdoor…), so it seems I am a low spinner, but 7K for a SW or 5K for a 9i seems very odd.

Also when looking at shop #14 for Hybrid. V.Launch of 5* (okay very low, but can you have a smash of 1,49 then?!)…

Firmness ground on FS Golf was set to default, which I think was “hard”, but some roll numbers are very funny.

what’s your thoughts?

metric is in meter, so you’d need to add ~10% to have yards…and if relevant, I play off 7 Hcp.

[Gresh12]

Initial questions.

1. What golf ball did you use in your fitting and was it the same as you used to collect this data? ProV1 vs range ball at extremes will give very different spin.

2. Was your fitting off grass or a mat? Is it the same mat at the fitting and home (I’d guess not).

3. Are you sure you were making ball first contact? Try hitting some shots off a tee and ensure you don’t even touch the mat. Hitting slightly fat may not feel bad but I’ve found it kills spin on a mat.

[drawplayer87]

Thanks for your reply.

Fitting: ProV1.
(Short) Indoor: Vice Pro

2. Both off a mat (since the fitting was out of a garage), but for sure it’s not 1:1 the same.

3. We’ll my smash is pretty high (also 1,49 on the mentioned) shot, so I assume this can only be achieved if I have hit the ball first I guess..?

General: 8ft Mevo to ball and 10,75 ball to screen. Seems like the mat itself can cause also lower spin too?

Was just surprised that some shots can go 140 yards with an efficiency of almost 1.5.

Edit: Still confused how a SW could spin 7,5 K or a 9i 5 K and not being a thinned shot (see carry and total distance for instance…)

[Gresh12]

Ball was my first guess but you’re using comparable balls. I tried an E6 on mine and after a few shots it left residue on my wedge and I was getting 4K spinning sand wedges.

I’ve found catching mat slightly first has limited impact on my ball speed but drops spin. Im not talking really fat just a slight miss. This also varies by mat which is why I tell folks to try to hit no mat on some just to be sure.

It may be worth checking in with Flightscope service if there’s nothing odd about your setup. Your delivery is much shallower than mine which will reduce spin but im not a coach and not sure that’s the full story.

[DS12]

Just out of curiosity, where are those screen shots coming from? I noticed the data out of myflightscope.com.doesnt show the estimated spin readings. Is that from the app table view or the website? Could those be estimated spin numbers? Assuming some or all are potentially estimated, were you using a metallic dot on the ball? In short indoor mode, I'm guessing you are, but just want to make sure.

[drawplayer87]

FS Golf and then data table there is an option to share the data.

Estimated spin readings are in italic right? I can’t see any estimated reading given the screens I shared. Can you?

Short Indoor and metallic dot.

[DS12]

No I didn’t see any, but wasn’t sure if you had seen any

[DS12]

Also looking at PGA and LPGA averages by club, I'd say your 9 iron spin rate should be at least 1k over the trackman reading from your fitting with the 7 iron

[aussiebenny]

WIth limited ball flight, even with the short indoor setting, correct mat height, and silver sticker dot on the ball pointed towards the screen, there will always be cases where the radar fails to read the spin accurately for whatever reason. Trick is ignore the outliers, and also ignore the estimated (displayed in italics) and go with the ones that are closer to the mean. To get Trackman-like accuracy with the Mevo+, you really need to also take it outdoors or with a lot more ball flight. I'm hoping the new Titleist RCT balls will make the meausred spin of Mevo+ indoors much more reliable.

[drawplayer87]

Looking forward to the new Titleist balls as well for indoor usage!

I mainly focus on carry distance and h.launch which I think is pretty spot on and can ignore the spin rates because they don’t seem to be estimated but simply wrong, since a SW or 9i with those spin amours must be flyers right?😃 but they bite quite okay…

However back to my initial question: is it possible to have a 1,49 efficiency that can only V. Launch 5 degrees and hence only carry 125m (137yards)?

Besides that I love this device and will def do the pro package upgrade.

[Gresh12]

The more you de-loft the club the higher the efficiency will be and the lower the launch angle will be.

My highest ball speed drives (ie most efficient) also carry the shortest. This happens when I lean the handle forward taking my 9 degree driver and making it a 4 degree driver. Less loft transfers more energy in to the ball but without sufficient launch and spin it goes nowhere.

I can add 5 mph of ball speed or more on command delivering no loft with driver but they are not functional golf shots.

[banjopete]

Do you have comparable data for outdoors vs indoors for yourself? How does your ball behave on your shorter but full swinging approaches during regular play?

Our swing speeds seem quite similar, and I get much higher spin numbers (sort of like you're expecting I'm assuming) in game and on my mevo plus. I use a 50 degree wedge for nearly all my wedge play and do 95% of my mevo+ time outdoors, but having said that my 50 degree spin numbers are around 9,700rpm, for a 80mph clubspeed, 1.07 smash. On the course, I get a fair amount of backspin on everything 9i and up so I would expect higher spin rates in my data.

As others have pointed out, there are a lot of factors that could contribute to the numbers, and I suppose it is possible that you don't create much spin somehow but your swing speed and smash suggests you're making solid contact. With that draw you hit, you would typically see lower spin numbers just from that alone.

[drawplayer87]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, appreciate it!

After having had a look at some outdoor numbers with the device I can also see PW with low spin numbers, like really low (would expect roughly 8.5-9K), but they are lower avg. in 6,5K.

PW with 6,5K would be flyers in real world or wouldn't they? When I am out the course I am pretty happy with my approach shots in general (meaning that I do not hit shots that roll out like 10yards/meters or so...