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  • The GC2 is accurate after all.

    So I have been having some issues believing the numbers on the GC2. Today I took a lesson with PGA instructor and a Trackman. Here is what the instructor feels that my problem is. As club head speed increases, I am dropping my hands and swinging more flat. This starts about at my 8 iron. The 7 has lower hands than the 8 but not by much. The instructor said that my wedge play was excellent with nice high hands and good follow through. He then had me pause at the top of my backswing with a driver. He raised my hands to where they should be. There was a good amount of pain in the hips, lower back and groin......... Bingo, So I asked him.... why the loss of distance when I feel that I am swinging full. He showed me a video of myself locking my wrists well before impact ( I think that's what he said ) He says that I need to do that to square up. I am not having that problem with the short irons because I am swinging a lot slower. I have good lag and follow through with my short irons. So I am told to shorten my backswing, slow it down and raise my hands to where they should be. He says a few things are going to happen. Contact will be more consistent which will increase distance with less effort. LA will also increase. I asked why is the carry so short while the ball travels 270-290. Angle of descent is less with my lower LA and with decent ball speed I will have a lot of roll. My top ball speed was 154 today..... so not much better than I have been seeing on average. My best lately has been 158 at Golftown. I averaged about 150 with the driver today..

    His advice was to stop golfing so much so I can heal up. He also told me to lose some weight ( he did say it in a nice way )....... that SOB...... I did gain about 20lbs since the fall. Once the pain is gone, I am supposed to take hundreds of practice swings with no ball and pause at the top in front of a mirror. He says that I am losing speed as my hands drop. He is surprised that I can still hit fairly straight.

    So I will stop golfing for a little while.... I have to play in a tournament on the 8th..... So maybe after that....

    So after my humble pie..... the GC2 was correct and I should have looked at my swing in the mirror. I knew that I changed some things since fall, but I never thought that it would impact my long irons and driver so much. I was hitting into a 1.5 club wind today. So carry varied depending on what club I was hitting. Because the same level of effort is put into the swing, I felt that the distance should be where it was last fall.

    He was getting perturbed as I was taking pictures of my GC2's screen.

    After 45 minutes with the trackman (outdoors) beside my GC2.... I can say that they are both so close that it is scary.

    Spin was within 10 rpm at times.... always within 125 rpms. SS varied a little more. The GC2 seemed higher more often than not.
    Ball speed was within 2 or 3 mph on all shots.
    LA was within a degree or so.
    Direction was closer than I though it would be....usually within a degree.

    The range was nice.... 275 yards out from where we were hitting..... and then there was a little hill to slow down the balls. I rolled more than a few of them up the hill a bit, but I surely didn't carry there.

    So being that TGC does not give much of a roll.... I will be having less distance with the driver. My short to mid irons are almost the same on the GC2 as real life. With the PX5 I matched what my total average distance was ..... not carry. So If I was averaging 280 with my driver IRL, I adjusted driver speed so I was hitting the same as my outdoor distances on TGC. With the GC2 I have to live with what roll the carry will give me..... I think that it may be worth it to have accurate spin numbers.

    I still can't believe that I was wrong. I will be matching my PX5 to the GC2.




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    Interesting stuff, most importantly found the real problem, makes it so much easier to move on now.

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    • keither5150
      keither5150 commented
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      Yeah......sorry everyone. You know, the flatter swing takes 10-15 mph off the ball speed...... So when I put the effort in....it seemed that the ball should travel the expected distance... Funny how my 8 and 7 are proper distance with the proper..... or more proper swing. Lessons were worth every penny today. 15 mph less on the driver is only 10%...... A bad swing can easily do that apparently.

  • #3
    I am glad to see that you have figured this out after all this time, this has been a topic for a while with a few guys on what your youtube videos have been showing and your swing and TGC numbers have never matched to reality. the PX5 is a interface friendly to adjust swings to what ever you feel is right, there are some guys who are very good players that have been questioning this for months and never wanted to bring it to the forefront. I am only a scramble player these days and never willingly play tournaments but my question is this on all the wins and world tour rankings for the time you have been using the GSA is this an issue as these are kind of artificial numbers and not actual, TGC needs to figure out a serious format that locks this possibility out and puts everyone on the same playing field as IRL golf. Glad to see you with a GC2 now this will be your worst enemy for a bit as you will need to actually fix the swing and mechanics in your game and not do this through a interface. eventually the GC2 will be a great add to your golfing though. Good luck
    Last edited by aeroburner; 07-04-2017, 11:59 PM.

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    • #4
      A couple of things to note that I have an opinion on. No one should add boost because the ball rolls more at home or flys further at home than in TGC. It would be like a PGA tour player moving to the more forward tees at the LA Open because he lives in Denver. You get 5% to play with. Nothing more.

      As as always guys, message us when you see something in recorded shots that doesn't make sense. It's hard to lock down settings when the core product is built off of sensor systems but looking at recorded shots tells a lot. I promise you. I investigate every request.

      Im glad you got your confidence with the gC2. I went through the same ordeal. Turns out my ball speed isn't 180 either.
      My Courses:
      World Par 3's by mthunt
      Toronto GC (L) mthunt
      Burlington G&CC by mthunt
      Weston G&CC by mthunt
      London Hunt Club L mthunt
      Park CC Lidar mthunt
      Sunningdale GC Robinson L
      Sunningdale GC Thompson L
      Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
      Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
      The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
      The National GC L mthunt
      Mississaugua GC L mthunt
      Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
      Markland Woods CC mthunt
      Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
      Magna GC L mthunt
      Barrie CC L mthunt
      mthunt Range

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      • DirtyGarry24
        DirtyGarry24 commented
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        Skytrak user, putting sucks ass without 0HA. Not worth being called a cheater though. I can play without it. If 5% isn't changing lives, would it matter if it was gone? Rewinds? I've taken 2 in 30+ events. They feel slimy. Get rid of em, rub of the green. Really tired of hearing the bs. Elevation? Is that a thing? Not in Texas...

      • mthunt
        mthunt commented
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        Sorry I'm feeding you BS. Rewinds and 5% aren't going anywhere.

      • DirtyGarry24
        DirtyGarry24 commented
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        No, no, not saying it's bs from you. Never mind. Another typed context mistaken... Just trying to make it better, may not be possible. Oh well...

    • #5
      All artificial boosting does is hurt the boosters game if they even really care about it. Considering there is no financial gain to be had here all one could get is an ego stroke.

      And as long as everybody is eyes wide open about it or quite frankly doesn't care about it, then nobody else is really getting hurt.

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