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  • What’s your club path and path to face ratio with 7 iron? Where do you like it?

    I hit my first fade today in years, not exaggerating. I’m using a 7 iron and typical here’s my numbers.
    Club path 5-8* in to out
    Face to path hovers around 1.5-3
    AoA 4-6 down

    It took me forever today just hitting half shots around 100 yards and get my path down to a consistent 2-3* in to out with the occasional 1 degree. Face to path was close so I was still drawing the ball.

    I could not swing out to in at all, just couldn’t..do it!?! Then I guess I figured something out and started getting 1 degree out to in but face was too closed so I hit a pull draw anyway..

    Finally got the path to about 3 out to in with the face to path around 1 open and boom a nice fade..

    I worked on it all day, anyway just curious what ya’ll are comfortable with for club path and face to path ratios.

    I did hit the path of 0 once and my club face was 3 closed so it hooked.. seems the closer the path got to 0 the harder it was to control curvature.. well for me anyway..
    Last edited by fortysixandtwo; 02-15-2021, 01:05 AM.

  • #2
    This is where having the access to the club path is so vital to get better. Before I got my quad, I used to hit a consistent draw with my miss being a hook. When I got my quad I was 7-8 degrees in to out, even on the hook. I would have sworn my hook was caused by being quick and coming over the top and smothering it. So to keep from hitting the duck hook I used to swing more to right field. Once you get into the 7-10 in to out range, sh***s become a HUGE issue. I too have worked to get my path more neutral. Most good instructors will say you need to be between 2* in to out and 2* out to in with a 6 iron. Im 4 degrees in to out with a wedge, 2 in to out with a 6 iron and pretty neutral with a driver as my ball position moves forward. A more neutral path just makes your misses so much better. At 2 degrees in to out, that block with the 6 iron still hits the green.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by sulli182 View Post
      . . .Once you get into the 7-10 in to out range, sh***s become a HUGE issue . . .
      This is exactly what happened to me today when working on my swing. LOL UGLY!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by sulli182 View Post
        This is where having the access to the club path is so vital to get better. Before I got my quad, I used to hit a consistent draw with my miss being a hook. When I got my quad I was 7-8 degrees in to out, even on the hook. I would have sworn my hook was caused by being quick and coming over the top and smothering it. So to keep from hitting the duck hook I used to swing more to right field. Once you get into the 7-10 in to out range, sh***s become a HUGE issue. I too have worked to get my path more neutral. Most good instructors will say you need to be between 2* in to out and 2* out to in with a 6 iron. Im 4 degrees in to out with a wedge, 2 in to out with a 6 iron and pretty neutral with a driver as my ball position moves forward. A more neutral path just makes your misses so much better. At 2 degrees in to out, that block with the 6 iron still hits the green.
        Cool! Thanks for the insight on your club path..gives me something to work towards. I was trying to hit fades again today and couldn’t get the path out to in at all, all I was doing was shutting the face too much but with an in to out path. If I didn’t have club data I would think I came over the top and pull hooked it...so I just took a break...went back to hitting my usual draw..

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        • #5
          I spent a year trying to swing more in to out. It turned into 8 months of the shanks.
          What helped (with a great coach) was to hit the centre of the face. Once I started to feel the centre of the face during impact, I was able to make better contact and not focus on so much in to out. It's more in to in. I'd love to have a GCQ to be able to see the club data. Instant, accurate info.
          Being able to hit a fade, or draw or straight on command would be awesome.

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          • #6
            Here are my numbers for my 7 iron:

            AoA = -2.1
            Club Path = +9.3
            Dynamic Loft = 23.3
            Face to Target = +4.3
            Face to Path = -5.0

            I have always played a draw and this definitely shows how in-to-out I swing.

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            • Wayno
              Wayno commented
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              your problem is face to path, way to closed, face is way more important than path.

          • #7
            Funny to read this, since it's so ME. I really struggle often to hit anything out to in and way too often am FAR too in to out and I struggle to straighten it out. Some things help, like barriers...could be an impact bag (I have the Tour Striker one) and can use that, but I have to use a completely or what feel like a completely different swing if I want to fade it. Much more shallow. I'll have to check my number and compare to yours.

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            • #8
              This is what I have read and found many like to see is a 2:1 ratio. So if your path is 4 degrees inside-out, you would want your face 2 open. Same goes for the other side of the spectrum. The bigger that match-up gets, say 10 inside-out and 5 open, the more curvature you’ll see obviously, but it should still end up pretty close to your target. Also it would be starting nicely to the right and working back to the target with that ratio.

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              • #9
                I found some Pga tour data from track man showing they average 2.5 path either way depending on shot shape. The largest path didn’t go higher than 4..
                3 was average for driver

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