FSX Play - Bug Tracking Thread

[pma99car]

Hi All,,

Please use this thread to track all known bugs and issues. Please try to give as much detail as possible.

First few I’ve noticed:

Paris Range

- Ball flight not reflecting LM numbers. Eg LM says 175 carry. FSX play shows ball landing circa 165, rolling out to 174. Figures on FSX play screen say 175 carry, 174 total (i.e. so ball should be spinning back, but its clearly rolling out 10 yards or so)

- Descent angles in the analysis table are totally wrong on screen. Regularly getting 0 degrees, or 358.5 degrees.


On course

- Number of short chips stopping dead on first bounce, where first bounce is short of green, on fringe or even on the green

[Dparky]

Anybody know why fsxplay randomly crashes out of the software usually when playing a course but can also happen in the practice facility, might not happen for hours or all day but then can happen many times in a round. My pc has more than high enough spec to run the software. Any ideas or solutions as foresight do not reply?

[Kball]

Wow - I should have read this thread. I ordered FSX Play the Sunday before cyber Monday. So I ordered it for $500 and the on Monday it was only $250. On Monday I had not yet received the software. I called on Monday to ask them to price match or cancel my order and I would just reorder. After a lot of back and forth they agreed to issue me a credit. Stupid me I believed them. I should have canceled my order. To date I have called and emailed and I can’t even get a response on the topic. To add more salt to the wound the FSX Play software works for 10 minutes and then just shuts down. No error messages. I am working with tech support, but so far they are not seeing issues. I upgraded my graphics card to 3060 from my 1080 TI and while working with the tech support person was advised my 1080 TI likely would have been fine. That is not what I was told when I called in and talked to sales. I started researching online and it looks like my 1080 TI might be as good or better than the 3060. I also upgraded my ram from 16 to 32. It is a shame their customer service is so poor.

[sinkingputts]

I had 4 guys playing a money game on Pebble Beach one guy hit one right into the ocean on Visitor Messages and the lateral drop spot was in the water still, no other option. So he took the drop and the game completely crashed. All the scores were lost. FSX Play it completely broken when you have more than one person playing and you’re taking drops. Forget the one stroke so many glitches happen right after dropping the real penalty is the game crashing

[Dwil3000]

I've had this as well, had to ctrl+alt+delete to get the program to shut down, couldn't click anywhere else when it happened.

[Trubico]

Has anyone noticed that ball flight appears higher on FSX Play than FSX 2020? Also seems like fades and draws are exaggerated in comparison to 2020.

[rkphelps]

I have the same issue, fades & Draws in FSX 2020 have become severe slices and hooks in FSX Play making it unplayable. Foresight needs to hire more programers that can fix this crap software.

[delaloi]

Have you established this with the ball data, or are you just looking at the tracers on the screen? I have the impression that the tracer in Play makes it look like the ball is curving more than it is. A lot of times I hit a shot that looks like it's going to be a big sweeping hook into the trees, and it ends up on the edge of the fairway or just into the rough. I haven't found Play more difficult than FSX2020, certainly not unplayable.

[sinkingputts]

I said this on an earlier post but i think the way the camera swings around to follow the ball makes it look like the ball is curving way more. Set the camera to only show the shot from the teeing ground (not follow) and see if you’re still getting the curve. I haven’t noticed anything unusual in ball flight.

[siebo]

I'm finding inconsistent readings from 15-35 yards. What appears to be good shot comes up well short. Then it goes to far on some shots. Has anyone experienced this?

[Trubico]

Yes, it happens a lot… lots of complaints from other players on those types of shots. They feel like they hit it perfectly but ends up short. My opinion is that the distances are correct but hitting into a screen is much different than playing on a real course.

[delaloi]

I am finding chipping and pitching more difficult on Play than on 2020, but I'm not at the point where I'm ascribing this to a malfunction in Play. The main issue is I have not yet understood how Lie Penalty works in Play. My current view is that it reduces carry by 50% from greenside bunkers, but I am not sure whether it does anything at all from rough. It is possible that the system purposely applies some inconsistency -- but 2020 certainly does that, and it is not unlike actual golf, so would not be a flaw in Play. Another possibility is that Play calculates bounce and check differently (possibly more accurately) than 2020. I sort of like how the ball looks running out better on 2020 than on Play, but maybe that's just because I'm more used to 2020.

At a minimum, considering that you can actually adjust the severity of rough in Play, it would seem reasonable for Foresight to explain what the system is intended to do. That way it would be clear whether it's working correctly.

[Trubico]

In response to delaloi… I am just basing on tracers… I think you are right… looks worse than result. But still would be better if it were more like 2020 tracers

[Trubico]

In response to sinkingputts… how do you set the gc quad to show from teeing ground? Where is that setting?

[Trubico]

Is it a setting in FSX Play?

[sinkingputts]

when your on the course look for the camera tab in the top right. There you will have option like Chase, behind, etc. It's been awhile since i've changed the camera setting so names might be different. Click on the 'behind' i think and that one just gives you a stationary camera view from the hitting area. See if your ball is still curving unusually. You need to be looking at your face, path and contact area to make sure you're not just smothering a hook out there. I could be wrong but I think you're going to notice you're just tripping out when the "chase" camera swings around. It doesnt follow the ball exactly behind the ball sometimes it follows the path along the tee to the hole or whichever way the developer set the camera to follow. You'll see this funky path sometimes on the flyover when the flyover camera doesnt even follow the layout of the hole.

[Trubico]

Got ot, thanks!

[JaybirdCU]

I had 4 guys playing a money game on Pebble Beach one guy hit one right into the ocean on Visitor Messages and the lateral drop spot was in the water still, no other option. So he took the drop and the game completely crashed. All the scores were lost. FSX Play it completely broken when you have more than one person playing and you’re taking drops. Forget the one stroke so many glitches happen right after dropping the real penalty is the game crashing

If you like the drop feature, give the new scramble mode a try. It will tell you that you are in a hazard in the middle of the fairway or even on the green. Then when you drop, as there is no other option, it will go to another players terrible shot and make you hit from there.

I didn’t spend 7500 on a GC3 to spend my evenings apologizing to my friends for what is hands down the worst gaming software I have ever experienced.

How can they be so good in the hardware department and completely incompetent in the software department? I honestly want my money back so I can just go back to my skytrack and e6. At least they worked…

[sinkingputts]

The only thing that calms me down is playing a EA game on Xbox with $100 million dollar budget that sucks too.

[holzbauj]

Hey, I'm new to the forum and really appreciate the efforts to push Foresight to improve. I have owned a GC3 for about 6 months now and here is what I found with FSX Play. Some of these were mentioned by other posters, but I'm hoping that the repetitive posts help Foresight understand the level of frustration the bugs cause.

Bugs

1. Minimap and aiming are misaligned for player 2 after player 1 hits into a hazard or penalty area.
2. Camera angle for drops points straight down so you can't see what you are hitting towards after the drop (this is particularly helpful when you have the option to drop backwards in line with the entry point). It's a real bummer to drop the ball then find out you put it directly behind a tree!
3. Long Drive Challenge does not allow you to set up your own multiplayer challenge on the driving range, only holes on the courses (looking to simulate World Long Drive). It would also be nice to adjust settings for how many shots per round and add an adjustable timer (again like World Long Drive).
4. Players do not always tee off with honors from the previous hole (doesn''t happen a lot, but has caused players to hit the wrong ball)
5. Shots off steep slopes (especially uphill) often hit the slope and take most or all the velocity off the shot. It's rare, but I have had to hit a wedge on a 180 yard shot from a fairway lie to get up a severely uphill slope. It would make more sense if the launch of the ball is affected by the angle of the lie (add or substract the loft of the lie from the loft of the shot to simulate what would actually happen).


Suggested Changes/Features

1. OB and Hazard lines on the minimap. You could cross hatch or grey out the areas that are hazard so it isn't a surprise when you land a ball in the rough and find out it was OB. It really helps to know if you have a bail out on one side or the other, or if an area that just looks like long grass is actually a lateral hazard.
2. Add a "Next to Play" window under the minimap that includes the player name, distance, lie, and elevation. This would really help to be able to play faster with large groups.
3. Add and optional thin player scorecard showing the progress of the current round along the bottom of the screen for the active player (could be toggled on and off in view settings).
4. STATS! FSX live stats are just count of rounds and holes. The advantage of simulator golf is that you should be able to visualize the metrics associated with measuring performance (Strokes gained, average proximity, par 3, 4, 5 scoring averages, GIR, FIR, etc...) filtered by (course, hole par, date range, etc...)

[Naptown Quad]

Newbie here, but wanted to inform others that Foresight will be ending support for swing recording on FSX. Fine if you use SC or another program. Disclaimer: This is not direcly from FS, but a online retailer that sells camera's etc. The shop had to stop selling cameras because so many people were calling them about FS crashing and blamed them. The shop stated that you have to clear your video files from the FSX 2020 file in documents and restart the program. Said it would start to work again, but may crash again with no rhyme or reason and then have to do it over again. Cameras are USB3 - The Imaging Source DFK 33UX273. The shop talked to FS suport desk and they said they are giving up on integrating camera recording and will not fix the bug. The shop said it is random and doesn't affect all systems. I rolled the dice as I will get SC if I do have issues anyway and I call FS and they won't help. . Just wanted to share the news for those that expect to get an all-in-one package as I thought I did and should get for the price with the Sim in a box Eagle pkg.

[jasonreg]

ForesightMattyG - OK, now that we have full graphical depiction for club data - can we have support for dual monitor setup again? Most of us have this avail - it is bizarre to me this has not yet been implemented ......

Oh, and please upgrade all my FSX2020 courses which I can no longer play as they do not yet have an FSX Play version ..... 33 of them! We have been waiting patiently but patience is waning ......

Thanks.

[ForesightMattyG]

Hello, I appreciate the constructive feedback. We have communicated your requests both to our FSX PLAY Course Creation team as well as the FSX PLAY product manager. They are aware of the request and will work their best to prioritize accordingly.

- Course creation in many cases isn't as simple as porting from one platform to another, the entire course must be recreated in the new FSX PLAY software engine. This is very time consuming, and requires a fair amount of testing to assure there are not large glaring issues released into the marketplace. With that said, we have been working to build new courses in order of the largest number of users to the lowest number of users.

- In relationship to the Dual Monitor setup, this is already on the roadmap. We will be reviewing marketplace demand to understand priority, but as I mentioned we did communicate the request so this should help to drive priority.

[jasonreg]

Thanks for taking the time to update this thread. Any chance you might be able to share the roadmap - even in broad terms? I think one of the issues most of us have is the "not knowing" ..... Just a thought.

[ForesightMattyG]

jasonreg - We are operating based on the qty of courses sold. Unfortunately, this timeline changes based upon outside priorities. With that said, we do not have a published timeline at this time which we would be able to release with confidence.

[p3eps]

ForesightMattyG
I’ve used my GC2 over Bluetooth with FSX2020 for years now with no issues. Since upgrading to FSX Play, I need to use a USB cable. In a half dark sim room, having a USB cable trailing along the floor has proved to be dangerous!
Is there any chance of getting the Bluetooth connectivity from FSX2020 moved over to FSX Play?

One of my favourite features in FSX2020 was ‘Within 6ft’.
I found playing that for half an hour here and there really helped dial in my chipping on the course. I felt I knew how hard to swing for 22 yards, 26 yards etc…
I would use a rangefinder to check the distance to the pin, and then chip within 6 feet most times… cutting down on putts.
Is this ever going to be ported over from FSX2020 to FSX Play?

Thank you!

[mts]

With the most recent Play upgrade I find that driver spin in Play (GC2 w/HMT) is often ridiculously low (making the shots horrible) in Play vs. FSX2020. My numbers in 2020 have been dead on vs. real world course results the last couple years. Perhaps I have a setting screwed up in Play? I'm just sticking with 2020 for now.

[tkvaughn999]

This I don't see. Play readings are fine. Whacky spin numbers sometime are do to ball color or lighting issues but I doubt those changed for you.