FSX 2020 Swing Cameras no Playback

[MongoOnlyPawn]

That's a top notch MB. You are trying to run 2 cameras, correct? Do you have usb ports on the front or top of your case? If you do, is the tab inside blue? The blue tab usually signifies USB 3.0 or better. If you've got blue tabs, I'd plug one cable into the front and one into the back (with a blue tab) that should put them on a different "bus" on the MB. You might want to try installing the drivers from Imaging Source?

[vutung]

Processor and RAM are fine assuming the RAM matches your motherboard specs. The error message could be drivers (try re-installing them), proper USB cable (there are several variants) or something else entirely - difficult to say without more info.

Suggest:

1. re-install drivers for USB bus (download them directly from ASUS if avail)
2. ensure you are using the proper USB Cables (likely USB 3.0) and good quality cables
3. ensure your USB port is USB 3.0 many motherboards include a mix of 3.0 and older 2.0 ports - look for the colored ones
4. try one camera at a time first, get it working them find a second USB Bus for the second camera. This may mean adding a PCI USB add-in card.

I tried reinstall the usb bus driver but couldn't find a driver to fix.
I'm using the camera on the motherboard's usb3.2 port.
I use cable TetherPro USB 3.0 to Micro B Right Angle..
When using the camera on swing catalyst software everything is fine, but on FSX the camera crashes.

[jasonreg]

I am using ASUS PRIME Z690-P D4 Mainboard, Core i7 12700k CPU, 64G Ram, 1TB SSD. I am using 2m cable. I see an error message in device manager about the USB3 Vision device, will that affect the camera?

Processor and RAM are fine assuming the RAM matches your motherboard specs. The error message could be drivers (try re-installing them), proper USB cable (there are several variants) or something else entirely - difficult to say without more info.

Suggest:

1. re-install drivers for USB bus (download them directly from ASUS if avail)
2. ensure you are using the proper USB Cables (likely USB 3.0) and good quality cables
3. ensure your USB port is USB 3.0 many motherboards include a mix of 3.0 and older 2.0 ports - look for the colored ones
4. try one camera at a time first, get it working them find a second USB Bus for the second camera. This may mean adding a PCI USB add-in card.

[jasonreg]

This is an excellent explanation of the solution and bang on in every aspect.

[vutung]

I am using ASUS PRIME Z690-P D4 Mainboard, Core i7 12700k CPU, 64G Ram, 1TB SSD.
I am using 2m cable.
I see an error message in device manager about the USB3 Vision device, will that affect the camera?

[MongoOnlyPawn]

My experience came down to the incredibly large amount of data amount that was being pushed to the PC by the cameras.

You need high quality cables and the shorter the better. It also helps if you can isolate the cameras so that each is on a different USB bus your motherboard. My motherboard has plenty of ports to plug into, but some are on the same "bus", meaning the actual electrical connection on the motherboard.

So I was able to find a schematic that showed which ports ran on which bus and once I separated them, swapped cables-I used the admittedly expensive camera manufacturer cables and things ran much smoother.

The other thing to check would be the amount of ram and the CPU you are using, they are used much more for the processing then is the GPU at this point so that one doesn't really matter.

Summary: as short and as high a quality of cables that you can afford, see if you can get a schematic for your motherboard and get the data coming in on different buses make sure you've got at least 32 megabytes of ram and an i5 processor.

[vutung]

Please tell me, I am using GCQuad and FSX 2020 for golf.
I used two DFK 33UX273 cameras to review the shot but only got about 20 views before the cameras froze and couldn't continue.
How to remedy this situation?
Tks,

[jasonreg]

jasonreg, thank you, using usb ports on different "buses" on the motherboard has alleviated the issue, at least as of 3 different trials! I looked up my motherboard specs and made sure I used ports that are not on the same "bus" or pathway to the system. Thank you for the idea.

Glad it worked out! There really is an awful lot of data flowing from these cameras - understandable the pip can get maxed out.

Enjoy!

[MongoOnlyPawn]

jasonreg, thank you, using usb ports on different "buses" on the motherboard has alleviated the issue, at least as of 3 different trials! I looked up my motherboard specs and made sure I used ports that are not on the same "bus" or pathway to the system. Thank you for the idea.

[MongoOnlyPawn]

Hmm, good question. I am using Imaging Source OEM cables, but will try to use separate connections.

[jasonreg]

Well, that is more than enough Computer! Are you by chance using the same USB Bus for both cameras? I know that I had to use a different Bus to get both cameras working (just not enough pipe available for the cameras at high settings).

[MongoOnlyPawn]

Windows 11, Asus ROG STRIX Z790-E Motherboard, Intel Core i7-13700 13th Gen CPU, Corsair 2x16 DDR5 7200 RAM, Corsair RMx 1200 Power Supply, Samsung 980 Pro M2 1TB SSD, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 FE GPU

I've reviewed the article referenced but will take another look at it. Thank you for the help.

[jasonreg]

Hmm that's weird. I have not used FSX2020 for a bit (have been using Swing Catalyst) but will try it out later on today and let you know.

As an aside, can you list your computer specs and what cables you are using for your cameras? I am assuming you have swapped cables and that your computer is up to the task? Dual recording and Playback is pretty CPU/RAM intensive.

Also, this is a pretty decent thread (there are others) with camera optimization & setup which might help: 2021 Primer on Dual High-Speed Video Recording of a Golf Swing - Golf Simulator Forum

[MongoOnlyPawn]

Not sure what's happening. I've got the IS drivers package installed per their website. Regardless of Zoom running or not, FSX will start up just fine, show both cameras operating at 120 fps, track the first shot, show the video, then both cameras lock up. On the "Video" tab in the analysis section you can watch the replay once, from one camera, then the "viewing" box turns white. No amount of fiddling with refresh rates, FPS or resolution get the cameras to come back online. If I restart FSX it's the same thing, everything is good for one shot, then nothing. This happens if I never start Zoom, so I don't think that's the culprit. Never had this problem with swing catalyst, but trying to use 2020 now for some online lessons, thus the change. Having friends over for adult beverages & a scramble today, might have some time to work on it tomorrow.

[jasonreg]

...... issues with these exact imaging souce cameras. The likely culprit is that FSX loves to install old "graypoint" drivers which basically break everything with these cameras. They walked me through uninstalling those old drivers and getting the proper ones installed.

The Imaging Source cameras do indeed need the proper drivers - IIRC they are avail on the IS website. I have not had an issue with FSX installing any other drivers.