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  • New Garmin Approach R10 Launch Monitor + Simulator

    New Garmin Launch Monitor + Simulator announced this morning - Approach R10.


  • #2
    Well this came out of nowhere... Interesting to see that it has a lot of great measurement features

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    • #3
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k5w5RSoXgIo

      https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/695391


      This thing looks like a pretty amazing product. Too good to be true?
      Last edited by Eldobo; 07-07-2021, 03:36 PM.

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      • #4
        Just spotted this myself on a review .... is it really that good?

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        • #5
          Checked the Garmin website and there's not a whole lot of information on what is measured and what is estimated.

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          • #6
            GARMIN! Talk about coming out of left field…

            I’m a big fan of Garmin hardware. It works, usually quite well, and for long periods of time. (I have an ancient running watch, about ten years old, that still gets software updates.) The downside: Garmin has a history of needing serious software updates after releasing new products. They usually get it right, eventually, but anyone who owns a Fenix will tell you that it sometimes takes them a little time to finish tweaking. I’m glad to see that Garmin is outsourcing some of the simulation side to E6, that’s a good business move given Garmin’s history, and it still leaves room for their home built software offering to grow.

            The reviews for this will be interesting to track. If the unit holds up to scrutiny, the $600 price point is going to eat the MLM and Swing Caddie for lunch. It might even cause potential Mevo Plus buyers to take a look. Great to see new tech coming into the market!

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            • bubbtubbs
              bubbtubbs commented
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              The subscription fees alone are worth considering looking elsewhere. Between an e6 license and the 100USD fee Garmin collects, you'll have paid more than the unit is worth after three years.

            • Anansi
              Anansi commented
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              bubbtubbs have you seen pricing information anywhere? I’m curious about Garmin’s plan. Their home built sim software looks like a direct competitor to Awesome Golf, and I’d be surprised if there wasn’t a limited E6 license, similar to Mevo Plus.

              Great point about subscriptions though. If Garmin sells a ton of these, they can take a loss on the hardware and rake in subscription fees like video game console manufacturers.

            • bubbtubbs
              bubbtubbs commented
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              Anansi in the comments section of this video the creator mentions somewhere that there is a $10/mo fee (or 100 annually, can't recall) for higher functions. I'm not certain what those were.

          • #7
            Club data alone make this super intriguing at this price. Assuming it’s accurate…

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            • #8
              this is a patent for a hybrid golf unit that garmin recently published however still pending. Tried getting more information from customer service but they knew jack. According to the manual you need 6-8 feet behind you and 8 feet in front if using indoors. For the price point and data points you can’t beat it. Any body have any contacts with garmin?

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              • #9
                Very interesting. It will will crush the devices in its price range. As for Skytrak, Mevo+, will depend on accuracy. What is measured and how accurately? What is estimated? Claimed ball speed accuracy is +- 1 mph. Claimed VLA and HLA is 1 degree.

                It also claims to do all club data. If that is true, and accurate, it is also a Uneekor and GC2+HMT competitor, which would be insane at this price point.

                I did find it odd that club head speed is +- 3mph. If you can't measure club head speed better than that, how could you possible read AoA, path, face etc. My guess is that all club data except CHS is estimated and not useful.

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                • Morini
                  Morini commented
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                  Well, it says that spin is estimated from path (among other things), so I assume path is measured. It gives +- 2 mph for path ... so I am not sure. I truly hope this is accurate, but I believe it when I see it.

                • Morini
                  Morini commented
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                  Skytrak club data is ONLY accurate when struck center face. Guaranteed inaccurate if not. It is just some math from ball data and has nothing to do with the unit itself.

                • Anansi
                  Anansi commented
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                  It’s going to be fun to see what this device actually measures, and how good Garmin’s estimated metrics are.

              • #10
                This looks like it could be very cool. If it is more accurate than Mevo plus for that price it may become the hottest thing in the market.

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                • Morini
                  Morini commented
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                  "Measures horizontal and vertical launch angles and estimates spin based on club path and horizontal movement". Really doesn't sound like it.

              • #11
                I can't find the official distances needed from ball to machine and ball to screen? $100 year isn't bad. That's the same as skytrak. The real reason I want it is angle of attack (which is measured I believe) and face to path (which might be calculated. Those are the metrics I'm focusing on in lessons now. Skytrak can't give you those and Mevo+ takes up too much space. Seems like this device is a great alternative.

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                • Afor1991
                  Afor1991 commented
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                  It’s 6-8 behind and 8 feet in front for indoors. Manual is available on garmin website

                • bubbtubbs
                  bubbtubbs commented
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                  Skytrak forcing you to pay 100 USD (145 CAD) every year to use software you own on a device you own isn't acceptable for everybody. It would be different if you could utilize the sim portion of the device without that fee and it was strictly for range features you could ignore.

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                • Eldobo
                  Eldobo commented
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                  Can you please post the link to this manual?

              • #13
                Here is the link to the manual. https://www8.garmin.com/manuals/webh...homepage.html#

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                • #14
                  Very curious to see how this integrates with projectors/TVs

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                  • Morini
                    Morini commented
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                    Just like Skytrak iOS E6 I suppose.

                  • bubbtubbs
                    bubbtubbs commented
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                    My guess is lightning>HDMI adapter, being is it appears to be mobile-only at the moment and there's no Android sim partnerships.

                  • Anansi
                    Anansi commented
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                    The Garmin Golf software appears to be mobile-only, but the manual indicates that the R10 can connect to E6 via PC by selecting an appropriate setting in the Garmin Golf app.

                • #15
                  Looks like the best option for projector is thru E6 desktop PC.

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                  • Morini
                    Morini commented
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                    I don't think it connects to PC ... at least not yet.

                  • brdgolf1
                    brdgolf1 commented
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                    I found the following in the users manual

                    “Connecting Your Device to the E6 Connect Desktop Application

                    In the Garmin Golf™ app, select Golf Sim > TruGolf E6 Connect > Play on PC.
                    Follow the on-screen instructions.’

                  • Morini
                    Morini commented
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                    Thanks for the info. That makes it easy. It looks like E6 takes care of the interface.
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