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RMotion v Skytrak.pdf So, I was one of the "Lucky 10" and here are my thoughts on the R-Motion and the readings compared to my skytrak.
It was packaged nicely and setup was very easy. Downloaded and connected with no issues. I already have TGC, and it connected to it without running the TGC installer, however, it's now screwed up my Skytrak to TGC connection issue. I'm waiting on Protee support to respond to that one.
Clips
I have multiple issues with these. First, there simply aren't enough, you need a full bag set. Second, the clips are not very flexible and you get the feeling you may snap one when trying to install it, even just above the hosel on the thinnest part of the shaft. Third, it does't fit on any putter shaft that I have, which is the same issue as not fitting on JR clubs. Lastly, they are not consistent in the holding force between the four clips. One i can install and remove very easy, two are a little tighter and the fourth is way too tight. It takes a lot of effort to get it off.
Connection/Readings/Ball Flight
It connected every time with no issue. In my sessions, I've had it no read at least 3-4 times and it was not due to not waiting the full second before swinging. Launch angles are acceptable for full swing iron shots. It read irons very consistently and shot shape was close to the ST. For the Pitching wedge it did not estimate enough spin. For driver, it is a complete mess, nothing launched over 8 degrees and just did not match the shot shape on many swings and carry was quite low. For Lob Wedge, launch angle is way too high and there is not enough estimated spin. Because this is club based, it just does not read missed shots and gives you a false good shot. See swing 5 for 7 iron data, this was thin and yet gave me a good result. I also hit three shanks, accurately represented on ST but showed a very nice shot on TGC. This is not good. It shows my in to out swing very repeatably and replicates my draw, but it may under estimate side spin.
Game Play
The fact that it comes with TGC is a huge plus. I've used TGC for over a year now and this is light years beyond Optishot and P3. However, it needs more courses. Driver is an issue to be able to play TGC. This needs to be fixed. Iron play is good. Wedge play will be a big problem. TGC does not do well with low spin shots into the green and if you are hitting 50 yds and in it is just going to run out on the green. Putting was fine, but i noticed that everything was zero'd out except speed. This may have carried over for the 0 HLA that i had with the Skytrak. I tried hitting it way offline, but it still read straight. Moving sensor between clubs can be cumbersome
Compared to Opti or P3
You don't have to tape clubs, but you have to move the sensor everytime, so I don't know which is worse here. R-Motion is definitely more consistent in their readings vs both Opti and P3. I did not have the ability to change club settings, but it looks like another beta was released today so this will help. This was very easy to adjust each individual club in both Opti and P3 so it remains to be seen if R-Motion gets this fixed. R-Motion does not give you the 300+yd drives or the crazy clubhead readings that Opti does on occasion. It needs to have something similar to Opti that you can pick your shot height better. For the price point it's at, i would definitely pick R Motion over Opti or P3 based on it's consistency and the software it comes with.
Compared to ST reading
See attached table. Launch angle was OK for irons but off on Wedges and Driver, Spin estimation was OK for irons but off for wedges. For driver it looks like they are keeping it in low 2k. Ball speed was fairly close for wedges and driver, but slightly higher for iron. CHS was very close for irons and driver. HLA was usually very close for most shots. Carry had a pretty wide margin.
Good
TGC
Consistent readings
Iron readings
Connectivity
Bad
Clips
Driver readings
Short wedge spin
Fake good shots
It was packaged nicely and setup was very easy. Downloaded and connected with no issues. I already have TGC, and it connected to it without running the TGC installer, however, it's now screwed up my Skytrak to TGC connection issue. I'm waiting on Protee support to respond to that one.
Clips
I have multiple issues with these. First, there simply aren't enough, you need a full bag set. Second, the clips are not very flexible and you get the feeling you may snap one when trying to install it, even just above the hosel on the thinnest part of the shaft. Third, it does't fit on any putter shaft that I have, which is the same issue as not fitting on JR clubs. Lastly, they are not consistent in the holding force between the four clips. One i can install and remove very easy, two are a little tighter and the fourth is way too tight. It takes a lot of effort to get it off.
Connection/Readings/Ball Flight
It connected every time with no issue. In my sessions, I've had it no read at least 3-4 times and it was not due to not waiting the full second before swinging. Launch angles are acceptable for full swing iron shots. It read irons very consistently and shot shape was close to the ST. For the Pitching wedge it did not estimate enough spin. For driver, it is a complete mess, nothing launched over 8 degrees and just did not match the shot shape on many swings and carry was quite low. For Lob Wedge, launch angle is way too high and there is not enough estimated spin. Because this is club based, it just does not read missed shots and gives you a false good shot. See swing 5 for 7 iron data, this was thin and yet gave me a good result. I also hit three shanks, accurately represented on ST but showed a very nice shot on TGC. This is not good. It shows my in to out swing very repeatably and replicates my draw, but it may under estimate side spin.
Game Play
The fact that it comes with TGC is a huge plus. I've used TGC for over a year now and this is light years beyond Optishot and P3. However, it needs more courses. Driver is an issue to be able to play TGC. This needs to be fixed. Iron play is good. Wedge play will be a big problem. TGC does not do well with low spin shots into the green and if you are hitting 50 yds and in it is just going to run out on the green. Putting was fine, but i noticed that everything was zero'd out except speed. This may have carried over for the 0 HLA that i had with the Skytrak. I tried hitting it way offline, but it still read straight. Moving sensor between clubs can be cumbersome
Compared to Opti or P3
You don't have to tape clubs, but you have to move the sensor everytime, so I don't know which is worse here. R-Motion is definitely more consistent in their readings vs both Opti and P3. I did not have the ability to change club settings, but it looks like another beta was released today so this will help. This was very easy to adjust each individual club in both Opti and P3 so it remains to be seen if R-Motion gets this fixed. R-Motion does not give you the 300+yd drives or the crazy clubhead readings that Opti does on occasion. It needs to have something similar to Opti that you can pick your shot height better. For the price point it's at, i would definitely pick R Motion over Opti or P3 based on it's consistency and the software it comes with.
Compared to ST reading
See attached table. Launch angle was OK for irons but off on Wedges and Driver, Spin estimation was OK for irons but off for wedges. For driver it looks like they are keeping it in low 2k. Ball speed was fairly close for wedges and driver, but slightly higher for iron. CHS was very close for irons and driver. HLA was usually very close for most shots. Carry had a pretty wide margin.
Good
TGC
Consistent readings
Iron readings
Connectivity
Bad
Clips
Driver readings
Short wedge spin
Fake good shots
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