TGC - GC2 vs Skytrak Questions

[Mike80]

TGC - GC2 vs Skytrak Questions

1 - Is putting better on GC2 compared to Skytrak or the same? (Accuracy, No Reads, Soft Putts)

2 - I know TGC for Skytrak is having spin issues resulting in the ball not sticking on greens very well. Is TGC for GC2 mature and no issues with spin and balls sticking on the greens.

3 - Anyone have any TGC disconnect issues with the GC2 like the Skytrak is having?

4 - Anyone having the excessive long iron shots in TGC with a GC2 similar to the issue with Skytrak?

5 - Is TGC Skytrak software license transferable to a TGC GC2 software license?

Thanks for any information you can provide!

[wee988]

Also...I have continued problems getting higher launch (36* is the highest I have registered for a pitch or lob on the range or wgt) with skytrak. Does this work any better on TGC? It seems hard to want to play more sim if I can't hit some basic pitch shot around the green. Very curious as I can't tell if it is the (unit) hardware or software (iPad range). Thanks

[KJZ78701]

Put the ball an inch in front of the red dot.....and loosen your grip? Just pulled up my 52 wedge data. 39.5-41.5 degrees on 89-95 yard shots. Ver.2.1.1 Firmware 1.400

[mthunt]

There are no problems with the GC2 integration to TGC

[FinnPD]

Gc2 kills skytrak in just about every way. All putting on sim golf is garbage, unfortunately. Putting is more of an excercise on speed than accuracy. Skytrak = $2K GC2 = $6K. You get what you pay for.... I imagine skytrak will solve a lot of problems and improve, but for now the most affordable and playable option is the GC2.

[goodmatt78]

I must have a good one because my ST has never missed a putt or chip (with TGC) and it is unbelievable. I hit on a GC2 quite often and the only thing I think is better with the GC2 is the delay, but I don't find that a big deal.

To say GC2 beats ST in every way is a reach for sure. I am sure glad I am not paying for a new flash every year like with GC2....that's for sure.

[m3w]

I would pick paying for a new flash over paying for PERMISSION to use my own device - every day of the week!

[aja]

Seems that there are 'good' SkyTraks and 'bad' SkyTraks. That in itself does not instill confidence in the product.

[goodmatt78]

I play barefoot or whatever shoes I have on....sometimes slippers. my putter has a white face.

[Mike80]

Where is the best and cheapest route to purchase a new GC2a? I received a quote from Foresight Sports at $6,695 for just the GC2a unit. Anyone know how to get one for a lower cost? I thought I read somewhere that somebody was getting some cheaper quotes from somewhere else. Not sure.

What is the cost of replacing the flashes on GC2? Do you have to ship the GC2 back for this to be service or can you replace the flash yourself?

Thanks!

[goodmatt78]

People do complain about the 99 dollar annual ST fee and rightfully so. However, people forget that foresight wants a 1k SDK fee and currently people are getting around that. I expect them to close that loop hole and then ST doesn't sound so bad.

[Joko]

While I hate annual fees, I get it if they continue to improve the product. $100 in golf is next to nothing.

[wbond]

I hate the annual $100 fee especially when told otherwise at the beginning, however, paying $100 vs more than 3x the cost of the GC2. It will take me 40+ years to make up the difference paying the yearly fee. I have a good skytrak, so i'm going to keep paying. Once again, it's all about how much you are willing to spend.

[wee988]

I could have gotten either but the 3x price of gc2 got me to skytrak. My issue is the sim part with skytrak which is really only now getting started with TGC release. The other difficult part of this is a lot of us who say we have a good unit. Mine is good EXCEPT I cannot consistently hit short pitches on the range. Others have other issue that are minor but they exist and no one (even Seth) seems to be able to say anything to help. Yes I know we can move the ball around the laser one inch in front or behind and trouble shoot to find YOUR individual spot....but in the end I just want to turn the thing on and hit a short shot with a launch angle greater than 35* without having it not register the first 5-10 attempts. I will likely get TGC or pg (or both)in the end but it is hard to spend any money on sim and computer if I can't hit some shorter pitch shots with some consistent readings.

What does that have to do with gc2 vs skytrak...?

Well I went to a local golf store here in Ohio to compare some driver combinations...yes I have a skytrak but don't fully trust its numbers vs gc2 and I think my ceiling height (10ft) in the golf room prevents me from taking normal driver swings. So...I go to the golf store. And do the testing on their gc2. I also grab a ping glide sw and proceed to hit about 10 in a row. Short sky lobs..some pitches. All pick up. Launch angle 42-50. Less than 20 yds. Even 5-10. And I am just pissed because that is really the final thing I need the skytrak to do...and everyone else seems to have a good unit for pitches but me...if I want to seriously get into sim stuff by next fall/winter I have to pray skytrak will fix this (knowing improvements are always slow in hardware/software fixes) or get a gc2 for a lot more $$$$

Still love the skytrak but wish someone (Seth please?..) could guide me more than I have been on this lob thing. Or just acknowledge the skytrak is limited on that shot. At least I would know it isn't my unit. And with that I guess it is just support for that good vs bad skytrak thing being a little painful for an overall happy skytrak user.

[Mike80]

Thanks for all the input. I wanted to know if the GC2 had any issues with TGC similar to Skytrak. Sounds like GC2 works great and has no issues with TGC. That's what I wanted to know. I currently have Skytrak and having some issues with it. Hoping this can get resolved soon otherwise I was considering the GC2.

I know the GC2 doesn't have any cost for using TGC currently. But sounds like they are closing the gap and they probably will begin charging a fee to integrate TGC with a GC2. Not sure on what the cost would be.

[goatbarn]

Problem is who is doing the "charging" for Foresight. It's not their software, not officially integrated. Skytrak has an official relationship to TGC, hence why they're involved in the purchase of the TGC sim package.

Foresight isn't doing anything via software/hardware to make the 2 compatible, so there is no reason they'd charge anyone for the use of TGC, since they don't want anyone using it.

If they were to lock it down somehow, then I could see them able to sell some kind of unlocking fee/subscription. That will probably never happen.

[Mike80]

goatbarn I would hate to purchase the GC2 and then find out they figured out how to lock it down and prevent TGC. I would only purchase a GC2 if I could also use TGC with it. If they did lock it down hopefully they would establish a relationship with TGC to offer an unlock subscription fee. Hard to tell I guess, but if they did lock it down that would be a big deciding factor in purchasing a GC2.

[aja]

Been talked about before, ad nauseum - don't upgrade the firmware and there is no way to lock out other programs that link in to the GC2 data stream. It's in the owner's control.

[goatbarn]

If you buy a GC2 and use TGC with it, you'll always be able to play it. If they lock it down first, then you buy a GC2...who knows, but at the very least you'll probably be paying foresight something to use TGC.

[gerry59]

Three thumbs up!!!! GC2 & TGC ,have had mine about a month now and it is awesome. no complaints, everything works as it should. AND Pro Tee seems to be always working on improvements to TGC.and are incredibly helpful. This forum helped steer me in a great direction.

[coz]

Gc2 kills skytrak in just about every way. All putting on sim golf is garbage, unfortunately. Putting is more of an excercise on speed than accuracy. Skytrak = $2K GC2 = $6K. You get what you pay for.... I imagine skytrak will solve a lot of problems and improve, but for now the most affordable and playable option is the GC2.

IMO GC2 isn't 3X better as the price suggests. Barely better from a delay perspective and no annual fee. ST better looking, just as accurate, laser dot placement. I am very happy with my ST purchase no regrets. I would purchase ST over GC2 if i had it all over again. I would be happy with GC2 also. We all win and improve with these products!

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[FinnPD]

Thank you for sharing your opinion! I have hit both of them side by side and the GC2 kills ST in every way. You see GC2's everywhere in professional golf. They are the most affordable and complete sim golf solution.

I agree the ST is better looking. However, the GC2 is well protected and folds up to fit in your golf bag for on the road use, and works as a standalone unit. I take it to the range all the time. Has ST actually released that "protective cover" or is it still not available, even tho people paid for it almost a year ago? They are not a very well thought out company. Their soft release of the technology before it was fully developed and ready was (and always is) a very bad business strategy. IMHO

[FinnPD]

Thank you for sharing your opinion! I have hit both of them side by side and the GC2 kills ST in every way. You see GC2's everywhere in professional golf. They are the most affordable and complete sim golf solution.

I agree the ST is better looking. However, the GC2 is well protected and folds up to fit in your golf bag for on the road use, and works as a standalone unit. I take it to the range all the time. Has ST actually released that "protective cover" or is it still not available, even tho people paid for it almost a year ago? They are not a very well thought out company. Their soft release of the technology before it was fully developed and ready was (and always is) a very bad business strategy. IMHO