Skytrak vs. Flightscope Xi

[Bubba22]

I agree. But the only real reason to buy GC2 imo is if you have a very small room for your studio/sim.

If i was in that position i would buy a skytrak for indoor use and a Xi+ for outdoor use and it would still be close to the same money. Seriously i dont get the pricing on GC2.

I still find skytrak to be expensive compared to Xi considering what you really get. Im eager to see what E6 clouds bring and hope it will exploit the potential of Xi and Xi+ fully.

The other reason is to do soft chips and putts without additional equipment add on or using auto putt.

[Dax]

Brutaly- Thanks you for your response. As far as distance, I am a 2 handicap and I know how far I hit the ball. I can consistently hit the 7 iron 190-200 yards (in Colorado). I play 714 MBs with c-taper x shaft. I can assure you I do not hit it 175 as the numbers showed last night. That being said, I think the inconsistencies are due to no sticker and not adjusting for altitude. But I will take your advice that it is very accurate. I figured that Flightscope might be more legitimate.

From the other data numbers can someone plug the numbers into a trajectory software and adjust the altitude to see if it was an altitude issue? I would agree that it is likely an issue of the following: (1) altitude not being set correctly to your playing conditions, (2) temperature could be set incorrectly as well, (3) no metal sticker on the ball, your spin numbers seem very low for a 2 handicap player using a 7 iron especially given your smash numbers as it looks like you were hitting them pretty good, and (4) maybe there is an issue with the environment you were hitting in as some things will interfere with the radar ( I am happy to discuss these if someone has questions).

[fhann]

[QUOTE=Bubba22;n32696]fhann, the lowest basic distance from unite to screen would be about 19 feet? What if you don't use the metallic stickers?[/QUOTE

The Flightscope X2 will not register all of the shots without the sticker. It would be unreliable in my opinion, to trust the data without using the metallic sticker inside.

If you place the sticker facing vertically upwards, you save the time and the distance the ball travels for the one quarter of a rotation the ball spins. Just do the math concerning ball speed and rotation and you can see the difference in distance required to detect 2 revolutions of the metallic sticker when it is place facing the target versus vertically upwards. Detection of the sticker is generally accepted when the sticker faces fully back towards the launch monitor.

Flightscope suggests that there is less chance to mar the sticker when striking the golf ball when the sticker is facing the target, but they also suggest placing the sticker facing upwards when encountering high ball speed/low spin situations.

[Brutaly]

I personally don't think Skytrak is expensive especially compared with the GC2. I

I agree. But the only real reason to buy GC2 imo is if you have a very small room for your studio/sim.

If i was in that position i would buy a skytrak for indoor use and a Xi+ for outdoor use and it would still be close to the same money. Seriously i dont get the pricing on GC2.

I still find skytrak to be expensive compared to Xi considering what you really get. Im eager to see what E6 clouds bring and hope it will exploit the potential of Xi and Xi+ fully.

[Brutaly]

Xi:
Ball speed
Carry
Total
Roll
Landing position
Lateral deviation
Club speed
Smash

What you can get out of it:
Carry
Total roll
Lateral landing
Club speed
Ball speed
time in air
spin
spin axis
launch vertical
Launch horizontal
Descent vertical
Height
Angle of attack
Face angle
Dynamic loft
swingplane vertical
Swingplane horizontal

It measures everything a X2 does but the software doesnt display it. Its a software locked X2 with a smaller battery and no camera.

This is from the top of my mind, im at home and the tablet and radar are at the studio. I can double check tomorrow.

Edit:
Forgot club path ofc.

[Dax]

For the metallic sticker question, essentially the sticker should just not point backwards. For shorter distances from tee to net with low spinning fast moving shots (I.e. For a driver) you should point the sticker to the ceiling to ensure a very accurate reading and a shot that does not register (we are talking a ball going over 150moh spinning less than 2k rpm). Noting that at 10 feet a real big hitter might have issues with their drives measuring and thus you should ensure that you have sufficient distance from tee to screen before buying.

[ajohns38]

If anything I thought Skytrak captured more data than Xi.

[Bubba22]

What exact measurements do you get with the Xi? Both what it tells and what Goatbarn can get? I personally don't think Skytrak is expensive especially compared with the GC2. I think the comparison between Skytrak and Flightscope is getting into the comparison of club data vs ball data.

[Brutaly]

Some parts of Colorado is at a high altitude. It has a major impact. I think Its about 10% increase in distance at 1000 meters altitude.

I think skytrak seems legit as well. The issue i have is that compared to xi Its very expensive since the Xi measures so much more.

[ajohns38]

Brutaly- Thanks you for your response. As far as distance, I am a 2 handicap and I know how far I hit the ball. I can consistently hit the 7 iron 190-200 yards (in Colorado). I play 714 MBs with c-taper x shaft. I can assure you I do not hit it 175 as the numbers showed last night. That being said, I think the inconsistencies are due to no sticker and not adjusting for altitude. But I will take your advice that it is very accurate. I figured that Flightscope might be more legitimate.

[Brutaly]

Comparing skytrak with FS Xi/Xi+/X2 is apples and pears. They are not in the same league. Even though they both seem consistent and that is what you should be looking at.

Personally i find Skytrak to be very expensive compared to what you get from it.

If you are uncertain on what to buy wait until we see what E6 cloud brings when it comes to presenting ball and club data from the Xi.

The Xi measures everything a X2 does! Goatbarn can help you so you get the most out of the Xi.

And about FS givning you too little distance. Not to be rude, but from my experience as a fitter 99% of all golfers believe they hit the ball further then they actually do, I find the Xi+ to be very accurate and i used 2 FS side by side and also 1 accusport when evaluating my unit. Did you set it at the right level above the sea? That has a rather big impact on the distance along side how cold the ball/club is.

Im 100% positive that 18 feet is more than enough to get good readings. For sim/practice i would not hesitate to put it even closer.

Usually you point the sticker at the net/screen but if you point itupwards the radar might get one more revolution to measure. Or at least that is the theory.

[ajohns38]

I used it last night without the metallic stickers. Seemed a little off. I was about 12 feet from tee to net. As mentioned, I don't know how off bc I havent used it with metallic stickers.

[ajohns38]

Thanks for the information.

[ajohns38]

Thanks for the information! That is good to know that you can use it that close (10.5ft) from ball to net. Do you point the metallic sticker that's on the ball at the net? Or I have read some people say they point it at the ceiling.

[Bubba22]

fhann, the lowest basic distance from unite to screen would be about 19 feet? What if you don't use the metallic stickers?