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**bubbtubbs** · 08-25-2021, 04:06 PM

It's all down to personal preference, but I would take the superior launch monitor and not worry as much about graphics and projection until later, especially if the ultimate goal is to replace the M+ anyway.

**Hjscm** · 08-25-2021, 05:03 PM

To me it depends on if yu will ever take it to the range. I bought the mevo+ and hit into a net for now but am seriously thinking of the gcquad used. I take mine to the range at least 4 days a week. I really want something for swing path and face angle.

**Hjscm** · 08-25-2021, 05:40 PM

I would also look into full swing golf. They mentioned should be shipping September some time.

**Travrav40** · 08-25-2021, 08:07 PM

For what it’s worth, after about six rounds I have my simulatorth Mevo+ hitting on all cylinders. As everyone’s environment is different it does require tinkering to get it right, but at 1,799 during Father’s Day and the portability of it I couldn’t be happier. As with most “toys” we tend to upgrade over time and the tech in this space seems to be changing at a rapid pace

**Markl** · 08-26-2021, 03:13 AM

The mevo+ is really a blast and one of my favorite covid purchases. I have been using e6 on a pc with the basic paid package. Match play with buddies & beers or a few solo rounds is really a good time and offers a satisfying golf fix anytime. It has pretty accurate info and feedback that seems pretty close to to live. putting is the weak spot IMO but you can set e6 to putt out if you want. Not horrible but takes a little getting use to.

While I haven’t used some of the premium sims, I am really enjoying the mevo+. If I were to upgrade anything it would be a better screen than the 24/7 enclosure/screen I use, and I may consider the expanded e6 with more courses. I am also considering The Golf Club 2019 because of the number of courses. I am just unsure as the UI doesn’t look as clean or as easy as e6 to launch and get right into it. Good luck with your search. Cheers!

**JayBrd85** · 08-26-2021, 03:36 AM

I've had my Uneekor QED since February, play 2-4 rounds a week on it. Usually use Unicorn balls or the GSK balls, have noticed any markings left on my screen. The QED has the video of the club head thru impact after each shot - that has been the most helpful thing for me to see. And I usually go months in between misreads/no reads. I used to get 2-10 per round with the skytrak. Can't say enough good things about it.

For the Mevo+ owners - is misreads/no-reads a frequent issue with the device? How often per round? Does it pick up chips and putts accurately?

**aussiebenny** · 08-30-2021, 06:06 AM

I was just recently in a dilemma between the QED and the MEVO+ for my garage gollf cage setup.
Here in Oz, MEVO+ is $3600 AUD and QED is $13500 with IGNITE. EYE XO was $17500 with VIEW.
Succeed software package is another $2800/ What a rip!

So I decided to step in lightly first with the mevo+, then go with something much better later if I really felt the need.
Got the mevo+ few days back and it's awesome. It picked up every single shot I hit and I've hit hundreds already.
It's also very accurate, reflecting the shot shape and distance exactly as how I felt it through the swing.
(I've tried with E6 connect PC demo, Awesome Golf demo, and FS Golf app so far)

It came with 0.18 firmware pre-installed, and so far, every chip shot, even chip&run has been picked up fine also.
My kids are loving it and it picks up all of their shots except for some ballons, air-swings, and shanks. lol
I haven't tried putting yet as mevo -> mat -> screen isn't flat all the way. So I need to get that sorted first.

As to answering OP's question, yes it's good enough for a blast with friends/family. Even without putting!

**Gresh12** · 08-30-2021, 10:55 PM

I’ve had my Mevo+ since the first batch. I had a SkyTrak previously.

I am happy with my M+ but I caution this doesn’t necessarily mean you won’t be constantly revisiting your situation (or at least I constantly am). It’s a series of compromises out there currently in my opinion and probably always will be to an extent.

None of them are perfect and best fit will vary by person. I don’t have the ceiling height for a Uneekor as an example. If I could buy a GC Quad and use the Trackman software I’d spend the $25k up front plus $1k a year for that setup but given Foresight software model and Trackman is less optimal in small spaces I can’t justify the cost of either to myself. I had high hopes for the Bushnell but I don’t think it’s quite going to land where I was hoping in Canada.

My M+ has been very accurate with enough ball flight (tested vs Trackman a few times) but it gets spin wrong on driver in my primary home setup with only 10’ of ball flight (way too much spin and I’m not convinced on shot shape sometimes). It’s useful that it comes with a starter sim setup included. I have upgraded to the $300 E6 package so I can play online with my buddy and I have TGC but I never use it. I will say I practice on mine way more than I play sim rounds.

As was noted above I think sim putting is a waste of time personally but some find it worthwhile. I personally would put zero weight on putting when choosing but I may be in the minority.

**Dubbs** · 08-31-2021, 01:02 AM

It all comes down to where you will mostly be using it and what your intentions are. Radars work best outdoors but have some flaws indoors. Radars rely on distance and require a "clean environment" From what I've experienced, indoors you will need a minimum of 20 feet to work with( depends on your indoor environment) The more flight distance you can set indoors, the more accurate it will get.

Photo-based tech (takes a ton of pictures as it captures the club making contact with the ball) will provide more accurate information, in particular, club data. It also requires less space indoors. The drawback with this tech, it's the most expensive at this moment and portability comes at a premium price.

To be honest, all of the LMs are good, you are just paying a lot more for more features and those serious golfers, like myself, will pay for it.

Uneekor is the only LM at the moment that provides an overhead video showing you making contact with the ball. That's an incredible feature tool for improving on your striking but it comes at a cost. If you are working on improving your game, you should also game the exact ball you play outdoors. With QED only using marked balls you are working with Bridgestone 2 piece ball.I have never heard of Bridgestone QED balls marking impact screens.

People make the costly mistake of using dirty clubs and balls. You should only play with clean/non-scuffed-up balls. As soon as it's marked/scuffed, you should not be using them anymore.

-Welcome to a really fun but expensive hobby.

**underwaterDMS** · 09-01-2021, 04:41 AM

I’ve owned both. I purchased my mevo+ in April 2020 at the start of the pandemic. I primarily used it in an outdoor cage I constructed because I didn’t know if I’d get to play at all because of Covid. As things opened back up again, I brought it to the range with me. I will say, for a more affordable option, the data it provided me was great. I leaned a decent amount about my swing and was able to work on some things, including angle of attack. If you’re interested in taking full swings and just hitting balls, it’s perfectly acceptable. Sure, there are some misreads, but all LM have them. If you want to be working on short game? Siming full rounds? It doesn’t hold a candle to the QED.

When I transitioned to a more full-time sim setup in my basement, I sold my M+ to another user on this forum and purchased a QED. I haven’t looked back. I would say my misread rate isn’t even 1/20th of the mevo. The data I get back is far superior. The high speed video feedback of ball-club interaction is extremely helpful. I consider myself a very good short game player. I know when I’ve hit a ball the way I want and when I haven’t. Even on short shots, the QED picks it up. Anyone can say what they want about sim putting. I disagree with the comments about sim putting being a waste of time. I find it very important for my simmed rounds. It’s a totally different skill set that you have to go in and out of 18 times during a round. Of course it’s not the same as on a real course. I also don’t hit off a divot action surface with a perfectly flat lie on a golf course either. That doesn’t make my 7 iron a waste of time. Different courses on TGC2019 have different green speeds, just like in real life, giving you an opportunity to adapt and work on your weight control. So many of the LIDAR mapped courses have amazing reproduction of all the contoured surfaces, giving you an opportunity to work on your green reading and marrying up aim points and weight. I guarantee that putting while playing my simmed rounds has helped my IRL game. And the QED does it insanely better than the mevo+. I’ve used both.

Money doesn’t grow on trees. Putting these systems together isn’t cheap. I had a fairly expensive build, including a big screen, 4K projector, etc. I’m not saying it’s the only way to go… but the LM is the brains of the system. If you are just looking for a fun toy and to take full swings, M+ is a great affordable option. If you are interested in much more robust data, video feedback, and the ability to work on your short game and truly sim rounds? Compromise on every other aspect of your system for now and get the better LM.

**aussiebenny** · 09-01-2021, 06:07 AM

Getting the QED would have made me do more short grame practice that's for sure.
Especially with the Uneekor's software which seems excellent for practicing.
My next upgrade from the Mevo+ will definitely be a Uneekor product I think.

**bvelts** · 09-02-2021, 02:34 PM

Thanks everybody for the replies.

I ended up going with the QED. The deciding factor for me was that this is primarly for game improvement in all areas. This is not to say you cannot improve your game with the Mevo+, the QED just makes it significantly easier. Plus a QED less than a year old at $2000CAD less than retail seemed like too good of a deal to pass up.

I cannot go on without mentioning Uneekor support. What an incredible team to work with. The license transfer process was incredibly smooth and everything was completed before I even mounted the QED to my ceiling. Software installation was a breeze and I was hitting balls within an hour.

**Bob Murphy** · 11-03-2021, 11:32 PM

What simulator do I need?

I am a 90 year old man with a desire to continue to golf for a few more years. I have no illusions about me making any big improvements in my game - I just want to use the simulator and have some friends in to golf during the cold months when it is too bad to play outside.

I currently have a relatively large garage space with plenty of room for a simulator setup. In fact, I have a net, projector and screen along with Mevo+ and E6. When it is working it does the job nicely. However, I have had enough problems keeping it running it spoils the effect. For example, today a friend drove 50 miles to enjoy a round of golf. We had so much trouble with the system "seeing" our putts (I have it set for 10' gimmies so all we want is for it to recognize a putt and move on) and finally, after 10 holes, it disconnected from the WiFi and wouldn't reconnect. We finally gave up and quit. Support tells me that the problem is due to the Mevo device picking up stray WiFi signals and locking on them instead of sticking to E6.

I think for me to be able to enjoy the setup as I want to use it I need a system that will reliably see the shot and provide information to a simulator that will "permit the show to go on". I am not interested in all the advanced information a really serious golfer might be. I just want the result - what I see on the simulator screen - to be at least somewhat reasonable. For example, on a good day I might hit a drive 110 yds. I would consider any result within 10% or so to be reasonable. Also, it is nice when the slice, hook or errant ground ball is displayed. And it would be nice to have a putt actually record something.

Would Sky Track or some other system be a better choice for me? Or should I justs "fold up my tent" and go away?

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