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  • tomormatt
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2018
    • 3

    #1

    Lots of questions - starting with space with specific question on outdoor option

    Like many of you, getting started on the simulator build is almost overwhelming due to the number of options variable to consider. Although I may seem a bit incoherent, believe me when I say I have done a ton of research, lurking, talking with others who have done this, etc.

    I am starting my questions with the actual area where I am going to build the simulator as I think it may dictate some of the other variables (i.e. trackman vs. QuadGC vs. True, etc.). As background, I live in Southern California (i.e. no basement) and the purpose for the simulator is almost exclusively for my use only mainly for practice (i.e. do not plan on having other people over to play virtual golf courses). I have a couple options below for potential areas to build and am soliciting feedback on what is possible.

    Option #1 - a relatively unused and self-contained room that measures 13 x 18 with a 9' ceiling - pros is that the room is totally unused right now, cons are the size
    Option #2 - room that is currently a second living room that is lightly used that measures 25 x 19 with 9' ceilings - pros are it is lightly used, cons are it is very visible and would require some negotiations with my wife
    Option #3 - room that is currently the primary living room that would be moved to the room in option #2 - measures 25x32 with 12' ceilings - pros are the size and higher ceilings, cons are it would be disruptive and require substantial negotiations with my wife

    On options #2 and #3 I am thinking the simulator may not take the entire room, but have not seen any great options that really minimize the footprint of the simulator when it is not being used (i.e. screen rolls up into the ceiling, netting / sidewalls of simulator easily taken down, etc.), but if someone has suggestions it would make option #3 more plausible.

    I have done enough lurking / research to have some opinions on the three options above, but would greatly like some feedback from the forum. A fourth option that I have not been able to find much info to help me is the possibility for putting the simulator in an outdoor living area. I am probably not going to explain this well, but many people in Southern California have covered patios by their pools that essentially function as a living area (i.e. somewhat enclosed, large entertainment center / big screen televisions, kitchen / bar area, etc.). We are going to be building a deck off our second story that will create such a space below by our pool. The weather can get hot in the summer (i.e. 90 - 100) and relatively cool in the winter (highs in the 60s and lows in the 40s), but there are some options to enclose and regulate the temperature.

    Primary question is this even an option. I have to think lighting would be a challenge, but not insurmountable. The space is not designed right now so I have flexibility on what could be built. Any feedback is hugely appreciated and I am sure I will be coming back with more questions. I typically try to find relevant information by searching the forums and all over the internet so know that I try to find answers before posting. Thanks to all the forum members who have unknowingly been a huge help just getting to this point .

    quick edit - forgot to mention that I will be doing most of the install work. I have redone several rooms taking them down to studs and joists with plumbing and very light electrical work (i.e. I am comfortable adding a circuit / opening a wall / pulling wires). I am trying to keep an potential remodel work to a minimum, but can reconfigure if necessary.
    Last edited by tomormatt; 02-15-2018, 08:08 PM.
  • wbond
    Ultimate Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 3489

    #2
    Depends on how much you want to negotiate with the wife and how confident you are to convince her. If they are low, just go with option one, it's an easy path and you can get started right away. For you only being 13' wide is fine, you may be offset a little but it shouldn't be too much and the depth may limit you on which hardware to go with. But the bigger space would be really nice.

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    • bob chung
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2017
      • 221

      #3
      One word Y.O.L.O!
      I would use option 3, and use extra space for mini bar.
      Extra tv for sports game is must.
      leave the comfy sofa in the room also.
      your friends will thank you.
      Last edited by bob chung; 02-15-2018, 07:28 PM. Reason: Add

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      • tomormatt
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2018
        • 3

        #4
        I may get to that point Bob, but trying to be able to honestly tell my wife it is the only option. As context, I spent several years (including the first few years of our marriage) working in a golf shop first as an apprentice, but gave up the game entirely for the last 15 years (we moved back east, had two kids, etc.). She is supportive of me starting to play again, but I do not want to test the limits right away and have not even broached option #2 or #3 with her yet.

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        • Kent
          Senior Member
          • May 2017
          • 116

          #5
          Are 9' ceilings high enough for your swing? If they are, I would probably just go with option 1. Your 4th option sounds like it could work. You could fully enclose or have 3 walls enclosed with some sort of blockout drapes. I would think you would need to check with your local building department first. A couple of pictures would probably help you get better feedback.

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          • tomormatt
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2018
            • 3

            #6
            I am just under 6' tall and think the 9' ceilings (they are actually 9'2") work even with a driver and a couple inches of a hitting mat. That said, it is not going to work for anyone much taller and I would love to have another 6-12" if possible.

            We will definitely need a permit for the work in the backyard as it will be a deck off our second story as well as the living space underneath. I will try to find a picture that will resemble the finished product (hopefully) and see if that helps anyone who can comment on the feasibility.

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            • Tresslerd
              Member
              • Jan 2018
              • 33

              #7
              Option one causes least problems with Moma....If Moma ain’t happy no one is happy. Privacy ie quieter is also appreciated by Moma and darker area works well with projector. 13 ft width is fine, ceiling is what it is. If it works for you then it’s high enough. Short throw projector like a Optima 1080 Darby will do a 144” x 81” ( 16x9. Format) from 6ft, Hitting at 9 -10 ft works well (mine is at 9). With a 5’x4’ mat hang screen 1ft from wall with heavy packing blankets at 6 inch gives you three ft behind mat for swing depth. Room for a corner chair and CPU. A little tight but doable. This is my set up. The impact screen is 144x104 green area is 16 wide by 8 deep. (Center area is 12x8). Mat is 5 wide 4 deep. Screen is 9” off the wall. I would use stick on carpet squares for wall and baffles and carpet sq for ceiling protection. Good luck and enjoy I love mine! Ohh and if proctor gets in way due to height use Tera shield for floor mount.

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