Raising Ceiling

[caiany777]

Gresh12 for what it is worth my contractor is saying $10k to $15k depending on what we have to move. That includes demo, construction and then finishing it back to a drywall finish.

[caiany777]

dwise2613 I attached a couple of photo's of a very crude top view and sectional view of my layout. I probably should have included this to start with. Anyway, what it amounts to is, as you described, a tray ceiling that is raised 1-foot for a 12' wide by 10' deep section. The GC is saying it will be quite a bit cheaper to make this tray 12' wide than say 15' wide given the types of things that need to be moved in the ceiling. However, it can be made a lot more than 10' deep for minimal extra cost. We just picked 10' because I figured 6' behind and 4' in front was ok. So a couple questions:

1. If I read your last post correctly you wish you had more raised ceiling between the tee position and the screen? How many feet do you think would be good?
2. Is it even worth it to go through this process if I can only get 12' wide? Or will this really end up just acting like a 9' ceiling because the corners where it comes down to 9' will be what is getting in the way of a follow-through?

[Gresh12]

Thanks I may try to get someone in to do a quote.

[dwise2613]

[Gresh12]

Thanks.

I guess I was hoping to hear “if you get lucky and there is nothing in the way it could be $5k” but if you’re moving services the sky is the limit.

What I’m reading is this is expensive even in a good scenario. I’ve got no sense what home reno’s cost and where I live contractors are so busy even getting a quote is unlikely (especially for what I’d hoped wasn’t a huge deal but knowing the floor needs supporting felt it would be a huge deal).

I’ll keep working on how to protect myself from the rain outside in the winter.

[dwise2613]

Yeah, I had to get a structural engineer involved and a GC. I could have done the construction myself if I had help once I saw how simple it was to do what they did. Just need a saw-zaw and some 2 X 4's and a nail gun and some muscle as those beams weren't light. I would also go with thin tongue and groove wood to put on the ceiling instead of drywall, as my drywall has been destroyed. There was a video of here I saw on someone who did that, name is CHip, he's a golf pro.

[dwise2613]

Pretty sure the beams are 16ft long. The length of where the screen is is 13'6, then another 12in on the left, and another 18in or so on the right. Will post a photo of the finished product shortly. It basically ends up giving me an additional 9 inches of height in a boxed out tray ceiling that is 14 feet wide and 10 ft long.

The only thing I would have done differently is take out one more joist, I only took out 3, because of some duct work that I didn't want to pay more for to move. You never really have to worry about people hitting it on the back swing, rather the follow thru. I would determine where you are putting your hitting matt/insert first, especially with where the tee goes, and work backwards from there. Because I only took out 3, I'm limited to only really one spot to place my tee that I feel comfortable swinging driver from at 113 MPH.

Now in retrospect, I got too far along in my build before realizing this. Had a placed my screen on the other wall, so I'm swinging WITH the joists instead of against, could have saved my self a lot of money and trouble by only taking out 1 if that makes sense. I believe there was a post in here that I saw where someone did just that.

[caiany777]

Thanks dwise2613 I really appreciate this post and the photos. Would you mind letting me know the dimensions of your punchout? It looks you went the entire width of the screen? And then it looks like you took out about 3 joists so about 9 feet deep? Would you change those dimensions if you could go back? What do you think the minimum width would be to make it worth while?

[caiany777]

Thanks. I have in floor radiant heating so digging down is not going to be possible.

[caiany777]

Agree with dwise2613 . It all depends on how your house is constructed. I have ten-foot ceilings in my basement and they were dropped to 9 feet to run some of the ducting. If you take the floor joists out to create space you need to tie them back or reinforce it somehow. It is possible but you definitely to involve a contractor unless you really, really know what you're doing.

[dwise2613]

See my post above. I gained 9 inches, all depends on what is up there for the cost

[Gresh12]

Sorry to go somewhat off topic but how much can you raise a basement floor typically? And ballpark what does it cost if there isn’t too much utilities to move?

I’ve got 8’ in the basement and digging isn’t an option so I had somewhat given up as I didn’t think there would be enough space “between floors” to gain much and even if I could gain close to 1’ would it be so expensive to not justify it.

I have about 4 locations in my house that are almost good fit my sim but none quite work (always one dimension is just off). So I’m stuck in my backyard which isn’t great with very rainy winters.

[preludesam]

I’m about the same height and I really don’t have any major issues. Every once in a while I get a weird reading but I mostly chalk it up to a really poor swing. Second what Wormburner said about the center position. 15 feet is the minimum width wise. Even at 20 feet no one will want stand at the golfers back while swinging.

[COgolfengineer]

Another option is to dig out the floor, some people here have done that.

[dwise2613]

I went through this process. Had to move HVAC, electrical, cut out ceiling joists and run steel. Went from 8'3 to 8'11 after the 4 inch steel beams were in. Minus the drywall and 1.75 inches for evo foam and putting green to match up to my FB insert, I really only have 8'10ish.

I have never hit the ceiling once, and I'm 6'3 with a 115MPH clubhead speed. I do have some folks who come over that have grazed it, but nothing major. it tends to be the better golfers that hit it too, and only on the follow thru, not the take away, and only when they over swing. You can text me if you want and I'll send you some more pics. I have a Quad.