Would be nice to have everything mounted on the ceiling. What would the cost of beta be with Vcam.
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I agree. It is nice to have everything mounted in the overhead. Not only is it a cleaner looking installation, but in my experience it makes it much easier to control lighting. Ambient light that hits your walls or lighting that is directed towards the camera can effect the contrast or cause ghosting. The ground is normally a much more uniform and control surface to use as a camera back drop. Everything in the overhead facing down also gives you more options on your enclosure sides.
I use the CX Surround with a club camera and it works great. I am looking forward to the vistrak being able to replace the club cam and then itll be a prime system.
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So to recap. The most accurate system could be: ceiling mounted Vistrak surround (3 camera system) with a dual camera Vcam. In theory this should give the most accurate ball and club data with measured spin?
If yes...this sounds like a winner! I’ll keep following....
thanks
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gunserotti i just added a post that might provide some insight for you. Let me know if you have any questions on my set up or what you are looking for and i can provide my experience and as much info as possible.
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I will have to check with Martin which is the most economical way of having everything measured. You are right, adding the dual vcam with spin will give the CX surround everything. There may be a better way. Martin was talking about having the spin cameras in the Surround case. Now I will have to confirm if the two spin cameras will also pick up LA. If so, yes, that is a winner. Once we release the first beta units, we will start Alpha testing the Vistrak Surround with spin, Vistrak LX monitor, and the Vistrak KX monitor.Comment
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When can we expect to see a video of you playing around with the VisTrakComment
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Hey guys thought id chime in with some information for you. From what i have seen and know, the most accurate system is going to be the CX surround with the trigger camera coupled with the Vistrak. The CX surround for ball speed and trajectory. And the vistrak for video playback, club and spin data. The CX has the largest FOV and therefore will give you two data points that are further away. thus decreasing the relative error and increases accuracy. Great thing is this product is available now. I can assist with a purchase if interested. Then, Couple that with the vistrak for club data and (when the development is done) for spin data. And its a simple add on.
Currently, i am using the CX surround and a club camera in all my bays.
Works great, i have tested and confirmed CX ball speed and trajectory is accurate within a couple %. I did this with a " calibration rig" i built so i could quickly verify and set the cameras in my facility when an errant shot (we see many bad golfers) hit a camera. Plus i like to prove to people it is accurate. The rig is a rod of a known length attached to an inclimometer and a radial protractor. So i set the rig at a known LA and HA, verfied by the inclimometer and measured azimuth. i know the length of the rod and the exposure time of the camera so i can calculate the speed. I can then move the rod through a range and verify HA,LA match the actual and that the speed is constant.
Club camera, i have set up in two ways. Depending on which bay the client is using. Color cam which takes a single image right before impact, great visual and club face angle reading or mono with club markers which has a timed exposure and you see club path and speed that way.
Ball spin is calculated but it is very predictable and playable. There is currently a ball spin camera that can be added as well. But I have not used the spin cam.Comment
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With all that the VisTrak can do. I think adding a Vcam might be all you really needComment
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Are there any news regarding the alpha test of Vistrak?
@ Keither5150:
Are you already able to play a round TGC using Vistrak?
Perhaps you could share some videos with us?
As shown on Martins homepage, development of the low
profile IR LED lighting seems to be almost finished, do
you have tested it as well? Is it much more powerful than
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Caracalla Good progress on the IR lighting, have nailed down the brightness required and a couple ways to get there. Is IR lighting the preferred method for you to minimize glare and brightness on the player or in the room? Would it be preferable if it was integrated into one case with the camera or would mounting it separate be acceptable?
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Well, we do have a viable lighting option if the IR lighting does not pan out. Mike is currently building a high powered IR solution. Nothing like this exists on the market. Mike is confident that he can get it working. I have switched from Halogen lights..... to damn hot for my liking.... to a high powered LED spot light. The spot light seems to take the place of the halogens just fine.
Recent updates have yielded excellent results along with a few eye openers. The most recent update reeked havoc with more than a few other things. Certain data stopped being transferred. High speeds stopped being detected.... which is strange as I managed to hit 161 mph with the driver and 144 with the 3 wood a few weeks back. Martin has been made aware of the things that broke during the last two updates.
Unfortunately it is not ready for playing a round. We still have too many instances where the data is not solid.
I have not tested the IR lights. Since Mike is building them in AL and I am in Canada, he will be doing all of the testing.
Overall, Vistrak shows great potential, especially when paired with existing proven GSA products. Working out the kinks has proven to be more time consuming than anticipated.Comment
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New guy looking into getting a golf launch monitor, when I first started out looking I read about opti shot, then I ran across ST and done a lot of research on that product and was convienced that was what I wanted, but before i made the decision to buy someone had posted about a new system in the making (Vistrak) so I decided to wait and see what it was about thinking that it would be a system that was more advanced than the ST. I went to to Vistrak website and if I was reading correctly, are there different models available. What I am looking for is a Launch monitor where I can play different courses and multi player and mostly off line as I am not a online player, (used to take up to much of my times in my younger years MS Golf 3.0 days). Use it for play time and have friends over when it rainy or cold and improve my golf game a bit at the same time.. this is a stand alone system correct? Thoughts , views ,opinions anything to help me decide thanks.
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ProTee Max Can you increase the max number of private messages for my Keither5150 account. It seems that I have too many messages in my inbox. I deleted a whole bunch and it still won't let me send or receive new messages...... I really don't want to delete any of the Vistrak Beta inquiries. Until I get my inbox sorted out, people can contact me on Discord. TGC channel. And soon, the GSA Vistrak channel.
@ Pawpaw. GSA has numerous standalone systems that will fit various needs. Vistrak is currently Alpha testing. While we have the hardware almost nailed down. We are still waiting for GSA to fix a few issues before we ok the Beta release. More info can be found here. https://www.golf-simulators.com/vistrak.htmlComment
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Do you get carry and total yards with the Vistrak or just club and ball data?Comment
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There has been more than a few people ask if the single camera Vistrak can be mounted on a stand or tripod. As a club data addon to Skytrak or the GC2, it can be mounted on a tripod. It has been tested briefly in this configuration. The only difference is that a different lens will be needed compared to the ceiling mounted version.Comment
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