For informational purposes

[Cklguy2013]

To answer your question Mike I would say that the ProTee distances are very accurate, I hit my clubs very similar distances to what I do in real life, without having made any changes to the default settings, notwithstanding a 5% reduction in my wedge distances which seemed to go a little to far. As a reference point I'm a low single digit golfer who swings between 100 - 105, and I generally, with good contact, get a carry of between 240 to 250, just as I would in real life, and I would rarely see a drive over 270 with carry and roll. Personally I want my carry distances as close as possible to real life to make the sim play more realistically.

[Mike80]

Yeah, this is very difficult because there is no way to force settings. I am one of the persons who want my Optishot exactly how I really play in real life. I have to reduce my distance percentages to 92% otherwise I am hitting ridiculous distances. This has to be something everyone does to honestly match their real distances. But the fact is most people are not going to reduce their distance. Not sure if it's because they just want the extra edge, or feel less of a man having to reduce their distance to what it was hitting a minute before the setting change or what?

Like it was stated earlier, it's easy to know what your drive distance should be. There are a ton of charts online that show what distance your driver should go per swing speed. Go to a pro shop and they can help determine your real swing speed with there fitting equipment. Also whatever your swing speed is with a driver isn't the same swing speed for all your irons either. Obviously everyone has agreed Optishot is a little generous with giving a lot of extra distance for a 95 MPH swing speed. Someone stated above that they know it's giving them more distances. So the big question is why don't you adjust your distance percentage if you know its giving you more distance? Don't you want it to replicate real life golf?

Optishot gives all the settings to calibrate your clubs to match your real distances.

Anyway, I have my percentages reduced to exactly real life golf and I have more fun that way. I just wish more people would so I'm not playing against like Tiger Woods. Like someone mentioned this is a simulator not Tiger Woods golf on the Playstation. Wouldn't it be more fun to have tournaments with people being average golfers vs. playing against professionals.

Also here's another point. Look at the ProTee tour. There tournament scores seem to be more realistic. Bubba or Zmax, does the ProTee make it harder for people to increase their distances and cheat or is it just more accurate right out of the box?

[SFR]

I know the max smash factor of 1.5 thing but what I wondered is what you guys can boost the system to its max, and then get with a 100 mph swing speed for the driver.

So let everyone boost to the max, then it will be fair.

[CatMan]

I agree with you guys. The way you hit the ball, fat,topped, thin . How high from the sensors you hit (DD's stock turf is almost half and inch higher than the sensors) after market turf could be almost 2 inches thick ! The lighting and how you tape your clubs can all affect your results. The best thing about optishot is that if you really know your distances and natural ball flight , you can tweak the software pretty darn close so it's really a personal choice if you want reality or you want to hit the ball 350 yards !! Wait until DD comes out with a LongDrive contest 😄I bet guys will be hitting it 600 yards !

Cheers

Exactly Maxxx,

And Players that turn it up to drive long doesn't mean they are going low they still got to hit an approach and get up and down...

I have probably the Shortest drive out here other than Ray C, and still manage to put up wins....

optishot is a Fun Simulator that helps keep your swing loose in the off season, we need to keep to that and not try to make it more than it is..

Now if Optishot wants to give us an option to control swing settings now we can have a discussion.... They can be preset for a Tournament going in, no need to police it...

[fhann]

So when settings are at default or 100% for woods, are you really able to hit a 280 yard carry with a 96 mph swing speed. That's more than a 20% boost then at default.

So again for info sake, if you boosted the woods to the max with any or all settings, is there a limit to what you would get for carry (not roll but carry only) with a 96- 100 mph swing speed?

Maximum carry distance with a driver is 2.5 yards for each mile per hour of club head speed when the club head speed is around 100 mph. This cannot be exceeded when using a COR legal driver at 0.83, temperature at 70 degrees F, seal level elevation, and no wind. It can only be achieved with a perfect center face contact, proper angle of attack, proper static loft, proper dynamic loft, and finally ideal backspin.

[SFR]

So when settings are at default or 100% for woods, are you really able to hit a 280 yard carry with a 96 mph swing speed. That's more than a 20% boost then at default.

So again for info sake, if you boosted the woods to the max with any or all settings, is there a limit to what you would get for carry (not roll but carry only) with a 96- 100 mph swing speed?

[Maxxx]

I agree with you guys. The way you hit the ball, fat,topped, thin . How high from the sensors you hit (DD's stock turf is almost half and inch higher than the sensors) after market turf could be almost 2 inches thick ! The lighting and how you tape your clubs can all affect your results. The best thing about optishot is that if you really know your distances and natural ball flight , you can tweak the software pretty darn close so it's really a personal choice if you want reality or you want to hit the ball 350 yards !! Wait until DD comes out with a LongDrive contest 😄I bet guys will be hitting it 600 yards !

Cheers

[CatMan]

Heres my point I agree that yes it would be best if the simulator was accurate with the Driver, and yes the honest players will adjust there distance to meet what they have in real life. However the players that don't know what there Distance is, and there are many out there, that will say they have that Tigerwoods Distance, and how is anyone going to discredit it.. If you have a Set Percentage that all players can not go over. It real easy to Monitor. and keep players to minimum standard..

[Maverick]

So the DD is not accurate when set at 100. The rules said not to go over 100. But What's wrong with bringing it down to match your real world distances? If everybody's hitting it 320-350 and shooting -20, this will become a video game league and people will quit.

IMO, since it's difficult to regulate people's distances in Optishot, let the handicap do it's job. If a good player shoots -10 a couple of times, he will be a -7 or so and be proud of it. This makes it harder for him to go low again but it gives other guys a chance to win. But they will still need to play well as the handicap will favor the low cap guys.

I don't understand why anybody would spend the time and money to build a simulator and not have it represent your real world distances. How does that help your real golf handicap? Isn't that the ultimate goal?

[CatMan]

One thing we need to be careful of is not to try to over analysis this simulator, That is what P3 did and they are screwing it up in my opinion. This is a Club tracker not a ball tracker, it is a basic as can get.. The 2.5 update has been there best yet... There is no advantage in the league if everyone keeps there woods no higher than a 100. If you want to have your own presets offline then do it.. But lets not try to make this into a ball tracker. sim. like p3 is trying to do. Also Everyone hits differently. Some pick the ball, well in this case the ball will go further, because the sensors are measuring Club speed. Some guy that hit down on the ball hit the ball at the same speed but their swing speed is lower because its not measuring the Ball, but the club.. Let players adjust there irons t real Life, leave the Woods Alone..

[Maxxx]

Hey boys, for the last 3 years the boys and I have been playing skins almost every week at my place and to make it a "simulation" and as realistic as we can we "set" our clubs to match our real games that we all know about eachother. The optishot has helped me improve my real golf game by at least 12 shots ! One of the reasons is that my distances and ball flight are as close to real as possible. (Except for every shot sticking like glue on the greens😂). This will never be the same as real golf but I would hope that eveyone tries to match their real game as much as they can.
Cheers boys

[braycobb]

I think the swing speed is pretty accurate (at least, mine is). The ball definitely carries further in the game.

SFR...The direct answer is that we can adjust Speed %, Distance % or both.

[SFR]

I have watched several twitch rounds and noticed that a 92 to 96 mph Driver swing speed was generating a carry of 260 to 280 and this was with a side wind and a bit into it, and not down wind. I have a chart that shows the LPGA swing speeds and they hit their Driver with a 94 mph swing and get 220 carry. You might get that up to 230 with the perfect spin but I think that is about right and should be the max.

Just wondering about the system, can you boost the readout of the swing speed or only boost carry?

[MatalaWedge]

I understand where you are coming from. But....

Now.... Hitting it v. long has always been my number one asset. My short game has been more or less crap for 20 years now but I was able to play close to scratch golf for around ten years because I was hitting 2-3 clubs less with my approach.

I'm set up at 100% speed and 100% distance. Yes... I'm now hitting it further than in real life in Optishot.... But so is everyone else... I see this as something DD has to fix. Not something we should all "fix to match our in real life shots" Either we all go to 95% or then we all stay at 100%.

I have a swing sense 3d swing analyser. The results are pretty much 95-96% of the optishot club head speeds every time with the driver. Consistant but slightly over the top.

I had optishot set lower before I joined the tour because it was more realistic. I am hesitant though to tune it down now unless everyone does so.

As I said to John a few days ago. These things are much easier on the course in real life. You hit the ball out of sight and that's that. Your playing partners have to believe it because it happens before their eyes. On the sim it's different. You always get the nagging feeling that this can't be.... How is he doing that?

I'm doing it by hitting the ball v. hard. Optishot is adding a little to that...

[HWoods]

We had very similar issues last year, and actually vega, I posted something very similar then as well. It's a tough to try and balance out what works in SIM world vs real golf and you guys will get through it. Hogan also brings up a great point that most people have no idea what their actual average carry is, as people, we usually remember only the good ones. You gotta figure out what makes it fun and realistic at the same time. Like I said, you guys will figure it out and it will get better.