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  • Tm4 vs protee vx (and vs tm io) - results of the match

    Hello

    This week-end, I've been conducting two sets of tests with my tm4 vs protee and tm4 vs.tm io.
    I have to say that I'm very impressed with the results of my tests with Protee. I have attached the excel analysis of my test showing the discrepancy vs TM4 (with RCT balls). I've also included the results of TM4 vs TMio

    All balls data are very close to TM4 (ball speed, spin, launch angle). Dimple Spin measurement, impressive (maybe except on a couple of driver shots) ! Spin axis is probably better than TM4 indoor. Launch angle, always read slightly higher by 1° roughly

    As for club data, I saw some small differences :
    - club speed : always 1-2mh quicker on protee -> for sure, it's due to the calculation method of TM4 (TM4 is now stating they measure prior to impact, it used to be at maximum compression of the ball in the geometric center of the face). The highest noticeable differences were seen on non-face-centered shots (ie: ball on the toe, quicker speed...that's logical vs radar based system). I had the same phenomena on the io
    - face to path : also different to TM4 but when looking at the video replay, it clearly showed nearly all time that the Protee was correct, in particular on off-centered shots (heel or toe). I had the same result on io.

    - AoA : that's probably where I would trust a bit more TM4. Protee reads AoA higher on driver (1.76° standard deviation) and lower on 7 iron (1.18 standard deviation) and much lower on PW (2.37 standard deviation...). Reading the protee change log page, I understand they’re trying to improve it

    Now, there are still a few things that could be improved
    - impossibility to export data

    - impossibility to rename easily clubs during a same session (ie; 7i shaft A head A, 7i shaft B head B....) - ie the tag solution used by TM in TPS is perfect.

    - carry distances are totally off (we managed to get them right increasing altitude). I took some of the protee data and log them in Gemini & ChatGPT and the carry distance was nearly identical to the one supplied by my TM4. Protee distance are lower by 10% vs reality or TM4

    I ve shared this info with protee support to congratulate them - never got an answer - I was surprised - they normally answer quick and are very nice.

    also may I add the conclusion of Gemini after asking him to analyse my data :



    1. The Data Integrity (Standard Deviation Analysis)

    To assess reliability, I focused on the Standard Deviation (\sigma) of the deltas between the overhead units and the TM4 benchmark. A lower \sigma indicates higher consistency.
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    Key Findings

    • Ball Data Excellence: Both systems are elite. For ball speed and launch, you are splitting hairs. The Trackman iO shows incredible spin consistency (\sigma of 19 rpm is essentially perfect), but the Protee VX remains well within professional tolerances.

    • The Face-to-Path Surprise: This was the most unexpected result. The Protee VX was significantly more consistent in measuring the club face relationship to the path on iron shots than the TM iO. If you are using an overhead unit for swing path diagnostics, the VX is punching way above its weight class.

    • The AoA Challenge: All overhead optical systems struggle slightly with Attack Angle as loft increases (especially on wedges). While the iO is more "radar-like" on Driver AoA, both systems show a systematic bias compared to the TM4 on steep wedge shots.



    The Trackman iO is nearly 3 times more expensive than the Protee VX. Based on the data, are you getting 3 times the performance? Mathematically, no.

    • You pay for the TM iO for: The TPS software ecosystem, brand prestige, resale value, and surgical spin precision.

    • You pay for the Protee VX for: Professional-grade accuracy, incredible value-for-money, and a club-tracking engine that, in my testing, proved more stable than the industry leader in key metrics like Face-to-Path.

    Final Verdict

    If you are a professional fitter or a commercial academy, the Trackman name carries weight. But for a high-end residential setup or a data-driven golfer, the Protee VX is a giant killer. It delivers 95% of the performance for a fraction of the cost. The data suggests the VX isn't just a "budget alternative"—it’s a legitimate technical competitor to the best in the business.

    Attached Files
    Last edited by Patator100; 02-25-2026, 11:39 PM.

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    Thank you Patator100. This is great work. I think Protee will take these results and continue to improve with things like AOA. This is really good work!

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    • #3
      Wow that was a great review! Thanks for sharing.

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      • #4
        Thanks. I ve just realized that the excel file was not uploaded. Here it is
        Attached Files

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        • #5
          Patator:
          Great analysis, I love this type of well thought out data and analysis.

          I'm using the Protee VX at a ceiling height about 4% under the minimum spec of 9 ft. I had a Mevo + in my setup and it, like Trackman 4, suggested the swing speed and ball speed of the VX were a bit under 4% low for driver and 7 iron. Still, the variablity of the Mevo + made us question the results. My setup is in a basement with a kitchen just above and in front of the Mevo +. So, EMT, rebar, and kitchen metal appliances made us question the results. We were often scratching our heads on some of the data and decided not to go with any of it. I agree with the distance being off, although perhaps only a bit less than half the amount you indicated.

          After looking at your fine analysis and data, I'm not sure what to think.

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          • #6

            Hi Pator,

            Thanks again for the test.

            I'm curious what did you increase the elevation to to calibrate the carry on the VX to = TM4. I have my VX set to 850 feet our local elevation here in WI.

            Just confirming that the VX calculated carry difference was less than the TM4 and if so was this across all clubs. I assume that the total distance was less the TM4 as well.

            Thx
            Last edited by BJPJJS; 02-26-2026, 09:22 PM.

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            • #7
              Club speed evaluation is interesting as we struggle to get any smash factor for driver that get towards 1.47 and above. If it's truly reading slightly faster than actual, that would make sense to see a lower smash. Even when reviewing contact where contact is 2mm or less from the middle of the clubface, with pretty optimal spin, launch, path and face angle, we just don't get the smash we would expect. This is across multiple players and different clubheads.

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              • #8
                hello
                I confirm the distance was lower than tm.
                the second player (owner of the protee) was sure about his carry distance with pw : 100m
                protee was around 80-92 all time
                tm4 : around 100m

                same analysis on driver but as we re not consistent hitters, difficult to say the exact yardage difference

                Originally posted by BJPJJS View Post
                Hi Pator,

                Thanks again for the test.

                I'm curious what did you increase the elevation to to calibrate the carry on the VX to = TM4. I have my VX set to 850 feet our local elevation here in WI.

                Just confirming that the VX calculated carry difference was less than the TM4 and if so was this across all clubs. I assume that the total distance was less the TM4 as well.

                Thx

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                • #9
                  look at the tmio tab in my excel file. Same comments for it - higher swing speed than tm4. But tm4 is known for giving high smash factors…which one is the most correct ??

                  I ve just sold my tm4, ordered my Protee from a French importer…and also buy a second hand quad.
                  So in about 6 weeks I will do the same test with quad (I will use it for fittings) which is the best unit for indoor use.

                  Since Protee has now added a function showing when there is a lighting interference with their camera measurement, it will be easier to remove shots not correctly measured by the protee.
                  this option was not available when friendly golfer did the test


                  Originally posted by wbond View Post
                  Club speed evaluation is interesting as we struggle to get any smash factor for driver that get towards 1.47 and above. If it's truly reading slightly faster than actual, that would make sense to see a lower smash. Even when reviewing contact where contact is 2mm or less from the middle of the clubface, with pretty optimal spin, launch, path and face angle, we just don't get the smash we would expect. This is across multiple players and different clubheads.

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                  • #10
                    Thanks Patator,

                    Can you let me know how much you bumped up the elevation?

                    Thanks

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                    • #11
                      when I left, the last setting was 2500m.
                      what I would suggest you is to hit 5 balls, take the ball data info, load them in Gemini and ask him what the carry distance is and fine tune your elevation until you get similar results in between Gemini and Protee.
                      if not confident in Gemini, you could do the same with the flightscope online calculator

                      Originally posted by BJPJJS View Post
                      Thanks Patator,

                      Can you let me know how much you bumped up the elevation?

                      Thanks

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                      • #12
                        Thank you for the info

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                        • #13
                          I find the same thing when comparing the algorithm from GSPro to Protee labs. Anything about 105 yds or less, the Protee labs is always shorter than GSpro. I am fairly confident in my wedge yardages and coming from a GC2, the GC2 pretty much matched GSpro. I feel that shots under this yardage read a little short on Protee.
                          Originally posted by Patator100 View Post
                          hello
                          I confirm the distance was lower than tm.
                          the second player (owner of the protee) was sure about his carry distance with pw : 100m
                          protee was around 80-92 all time
                          tm4 : around 100m

                          same analysis on driver but as we re not consistent hitters, difficult to say the exact yardage difference


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by wbond View Post
                            I find the same thing when comparing the algorithm from GSPro to Protee labs. Anything about 105 yds or less, the Protee labs is always shorter than GSpro. I am fairly confident in my wedge yardages and coming from a GC2, the GC2 pretty much matched GSpro. I feel that shots under this yardage read a little short on Protee.

                            You can calibrate carry in Labs to GSpro using altitude. The adjustment in labs only effects the carry number is labs.
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