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  • #1

    Sidespin

    Guys,

    My skytrak was delivered to the house yesterday but no one was home to sign so I missed it...ugh. I had it re routed to a retail location and will pick it up tonight, I have also ordered the FMJ so I am pretty excited for the upgrade to my basement practice facility.

    My question is on sidespin. I am most interested in using the driving range feature of skytrak to work on my game, based on some research most of the data looks very accurate except sidespin. Anyone have any opinions on sidespin? Is it realistic or understated?

    Thanks,
    Bryan
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Harbor17 View Post
    Guys,

    My skytrak was delivered to the house yesterday but no one was home to sign so I missed it...ugh. I had it re routed to a retail location and will pick it up tonight, I have also ordered the FMJ so I am pretty excited for the upgrade to my basement practice facility.

    My question is on sidespin. I am most interested in using the driving range feature of skytrak to work on my game, based on some research most of the data looks very accurate except sidespin. Anyone have any opinions on sidespin? Is it realistic or understated?

    Thanks,
    Bryan
    I think it's realistic, if anything exaggerated. You'll definitely know if your face angle doesn't match your path. Using Truvis Chrome Softs helps, as you don't have to be so particular with aligning a logo towards the cameras. With regular balls, make sure you do have a logo or line towards the camera.

    ps. If you're working on your game, the GIP add-on is well worth it, to get the very cool Skill Assessment feature (where you have to hit X shots with X clubs at a preset distance each, and it calculates your "virtual handicap" overall and on each shot, and calculates distance to pin in feet. All configurable and very useful for daily practice to track your progress).
    Last edited by GungHoGolf; 02-01-2017, 04:18 PM.
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    • #3
      Congrats on the purchase, you will love it!

      I've probably have an owner bias but I don't believe the sidespin is understated, actually when I first got my Skytrak back in October I thought it was reading too much spin...until I realized that my indoor swing was a little different than my course swing. I'm playing tomorrow for the first time since I got my Skytrak so I'm interested to see how the practice (and sidespin) translates to the course.

      I think some guys have tested the Skytrak vs GC2 in regards to spin and found it to be relatively accurate

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      • #4
        Thanks Guys, has anyone tested this outside at the range to validate trajectory/sidespin?

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        • #5
          Side spin is accurate - I fight a strong draw IRL, which gets more pronounced throughout a round IRL, and I see the same pattern when playing in my garage with the SkyTrak. FYI - I have never had to worry about aligning the ball so the logo is facing the unit, even when not playing ChromeSoft balls.

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          • #6
            Measuring side to side deviation is more difficult outside. You must make absolute certain on alignment, then you're guessing on how far left or right of that line that the ball landed. And you need something as a reference to judge how far offline. Overall shot shape is easy, yes or no it drew or faded. Also, fairly easy, if it was over exaggerated. I found that it matches up quite well

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            • #7
              If it helps, I did a video yesterday hitting the same shot with GC2 and SkyTrak to compare data - pretty similar numbers.
              https://youtu.be/z5bifppIjq4
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              • Miura Mario
                #7.3
                Miura Mario commented
                02-02-2017, 06:18 PM
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                Great Vid man! I think many of the slight flight differences when you hit the the ball right down the middle are because the units are not 100% parallel which could also effect the sidespin value. Its really impressive how similar the numbers are - I definitely agree with your findings though I always get more ball speed/ carry off of GC2 usually 2-4mph on my better swings and sometimes 10-15 yards off the tee - and I also always hit it straighter on gc2. I would appreciate it if skytrak gave us some additional bs and carry!!
                Last edited by Miura Mario; 02-02-2017, 06:30 PM.
              • awisnia
                #7.4
                awisnia commented
                02-03-2017, 01:06 AM
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                Awesome video. thanks.
              • James James
                #7.5
                James James commented
                02-03-2017, 02:20 PM
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                Superb video.
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              Edited to remove duplicate post

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              • #9
                Awesome vid, the comparison is reassuring. I was on the fence about which to buy but once I saw how close skytrak is to other units I figured I would save some money.

                Thanks.

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by V8burble View Post
                  If it helps, I did a video yesterday hitting the same shot with GC2 and SkyTrak to compare data - pretty similar numbers.
                  https://youtu.be/z5bifppIjq4
                  Great video! Being across from one another you'd think maybe the flash of each would interfere with one another but doesn't appear to be the case. Super impressive what the skytrak can do, we definitely needed more comparison videos out there like this.

                  Should get my gc2 on Friday, looking forward to doing some tests like this as well.

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                  • #11
                    I've taken my ST out to the range a few times in the past few weeks. With my irons all shot shapes and trajectories were pretty spot on, so I assume the side spin was accurate. I had a few issues with my woods, 4 and 3 specifically where it sliced IRL but showed as a draw on the ST. but it was a small percentage of those.

                    Anyway, enjoy it man! You'll soon come to the realization that there just are not enough hours in the day to do everything you want to do haha!

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                    • #12
                      Sidespin on the SkyTrac reads at about half of actual sidespin... At least this was my experience a couple of months ago. Firmware upgrades may have corrected it, but I haven't seen data to support any correction. This is 100% factual. I tested it side by side with GC2 indoors and side by side with TM outdoors. The results were the same every time (when the SkyTrac actually picked up the shot). The ball flight difference IRL also showed more side dispersion than SkyTrac due to the decreased spin on SkyTrac. Backspin and total distance was fairly similar on all three units. However, the SkyTrac displayed slightly longer distances in the longer clubs due to the decreased dispersion. For example... good drives on SkyTrac would fly 270 to 280 and only 255 to 265 on GC2 and TM. I also sometimes get slightly longer distance readings on TM compared to GC2. I think carry distance on GC2 is a little short at times. There are YouTube videos by Par2Pro that display these same results.

                      With this being said... I wasn't too displeased with the side dispersion inaccuracy. I was more displeased with the SkyTrac missing so many shots. Others on the forum have had better results than myself, but I just couldn't get it to work for me, and I tried everything from height adjustments and multiple types of lighting to ball markings and ball position. My neighbor also has the SkyTrac and has the exact same issues that I had with mine even after firmware upgrades.

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                      • Miura Mario
                        #12.1
                        Miura Mario commented
                        02-02-2017, 06:23 PM
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                        Did you watch the video that V8burble just made? The skytrak has changed alot since you have owned it.
                    • #13
                      V8burble Great video on the shot comparison. Really nice to see the results and how comparable the readings were.

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                      • #14
                        Great video. It puts to bed the comments made to me that Skytrak has an unfair advantage. There's no possible way Skytrak is 50% off on spin. Just watch the video. Par2Pro put them beside each other which is not the right way to do it. I did this with the ES16 a few months ago but the flash was causing misreads.
                        My Courses:
                        World Par 3's by mthunt
                        Toronto GC (L) mthunt
                        Burlington G&CC by mthunt
                        Weston G&CC by mthunt
                        London Hunt Club L mthunt
                        Park CC Lidar mthunt
                        Sunningdale GC Robinson L
                        Sunningdale GC Thompson L
                        Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
                        Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
                        The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
                        The National GC L mthunt
                        Mississaugua GC L mthunt
                        Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
                        Markland Woods CC mthunt
                        Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
                        Magna GC L mthunt
                        Barrie CC L mthunt
                        mthunt Range

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                        • #15
                          Originally posted by V8burble View Post
                          If it helps, I did a video yesterday hitting the same shot with GC2 and SkyTrak to compare data - pretty similar numbers.
                          https://youtu.be/z5bifppIjq4
                          Awesome video. Needs to have its own thread and a sticky. Can then just direct people to that thread when the repeated question of "thoughts on skytrak" comes up by interested buyers. Reflects my experience as well, with lower ball speed being my only complaint. But I can certainly live with 2-3 mph.

                          I quit counting, but at least half of those shots had the Skytrak with more sidespin than the GC2. Does that mean we actually get strokes now instead of the proposed tour segregation due to unfair equipment? Haha

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                          • wbond
                            #15.1
                            wbond commented
                            02-02-2017, 05:11 PM
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                            9/17 ST had more SS. 5/17 ST had 3-5mph slower ball speed. Anything 2mph or less i would consider acceptable. Great comparison.
                          • mthunt
                            #15.2
                            mthunt commented
                            02-02-2017, 08:22 PM
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                            Lmaooooooo
                          • mthunt
                            #15.3
                            mthunt commented
                            02-02-2017, 08:23 PM
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                            I found the es16 to have like 8mph less bs than the GC2 with a driver.
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