Backspin (lack of) has become a big problem

[David Williams 'Chips']

Hello fellow sim golfers. I've had the skytrak around 4 years now and use TGC 2019 software. I've always loved it and still do, however, and the positive bit first, my game has improved significantly since I first had it, but now I'm getting more frustrated with it. Since, I've started striking it better, I'm getting punished more with crazy low backspin. On the course, my 9i is around 125 carry. On the sim yesterday for example, I carried it 160 and flew the green into water, with a backspin of around 3,000. I'm seeing it a lot lately and is a problem only with the more lofted clubs (maybe pw to 8i). I've seen some posts suggesting using a v small tee and I'll give it a go but any other suggestions? Can I amend any of the settings to get more normal backspin e.g. roughly 9,000 for 9i?

Thanks in advance
Dave

[Morini]

Skytrak measures actual backspin. Any LM would very likely give you same numbers. Typically low spin is caused by cheap mat, cheap or worn ball, or poor technique. Hitting off a short tee will bring spin closer to what it would be off fairway. If spin improves when hitting off a short tee, get a better mat.

[David Williams 'Chips']

Thank you Morini. Any mat suggestions?

[SkyTrak_Jordan]

Hello fellow sim golfers. I've had the skytrak around 4 years now and use TGC 2019 software. I've always loved it and still do, however, and the positive bit first, my game has improved significantly since I first had it, but now I'm getting more frustrated with it. Since, I've started striking it better, I'm getting punished more with crazy low backspin. On the course, my 9i is around 125 carry. On the sim yesterday for example, I carried it 160 and flew the green into water, with a backspin of around 3,000. I'm seeing it a lot lately and is a problem only with the more lofted clubs (maybe pw to 8i). I've seen some posts suggesting using a v small tee and I'll give it a go but any other suggestions? Can I amend any of the settings to get more normal backspin e.g. roughly 9,000 for 9i?

Thanks in advance
Dave

Is the SkyTrak unit the same level as the hitting surface? What type of mat do you use? Are you using premium golf balls and changing them out on a regular basis?

[jpotas]

I am joining this thread after spending some time trying to figure out the same thing. In real life I hit my 50 degree CBX about 85-90 yards with a normal full swing and I normally find my ball mark with 18" of my ball. In TGC 2019, I never get any stopping power and always get rollout on the greens. I just accepted it as an issue with TGC. However, after seeing the rollout again I verified the backspin number on the shot, it only showed 2600 which has got to be way off. I then started hitting shots on the Skytrak range and had the same numbers on well hit, crisp shots. I hit a lots of drives with 2600 backspin with a 9 degree head, I see no way that I can have that low of backspin with a 50 degree wedge. My real life and Skytrak distances seem very close,

I don't know if this just started.

I am using a CCE hitting mat.

I have been using my Sktrak for several years and kind of have pride in my setup since I get almost no missed shots or what I would consider mis-reads.

[David Williams 'Chips']

Is the SkyTrak unit the same level as the hitting surface? What type of mat do you use? Are you using premium golf balls and changing them out on a regular basis?

Hello mate, thank you for your reply, i use TM practice balls and get the low backspin even when using them for the first time. I attach a pic of my mat. I'm not sure if the mat might be a problem. What is recommended? Yes, the skytrak unit is level with the mat.
Thanks Dave.

[David Williams 'Chips']

I am joining this thread after spending some time trying to figure out the same thing. In real life I hit my 50 degree CBX about 85-90 yards with a normal full swing and I normally find my ball mark with 18" of my ball. In TGC 2019, I never get any stopping power and always get rollout on the greens. I just accepted it as an issue with TGC. However, after seeing the rollout again I verified the backspin number on the shot, it only showed 2600 which has got to be way off. I then started hitting shots on the Skytrak range and had the same numbers on well hit, crisp shots. I hit a lots of drives with 2600 backspin with a 9 degree head, I see no way that I can have that low of backspin with a 50 degree wedge. My real life and Skytrak distances seem very close,

I don't know if this just started.

I am using a CCE hitting mat.

I have been using my Sktrak for several years and kind of have pride in my setup since I get almost no missed shots or what I would consider mis-reads.

What's your top 3 of your published courses mate?

[jpotas]

This is a few shots off a very short tee, nice easy swing with good contact. Purposely not swinging hard in order to just make good contact. I can feel the ball hitting higher on the face. Best I could manage with a 50 degree CBX is 3200 backspin. Something is very wrong.

[jpotas]

Here's another swing off my matt, normal swing, great contact, again my 50 degree CBX.

Edit: Using Callaway Supersoft, brand new.

[jpotas]

More info, just realized that for my original post with the 50 degrees spreadsheet I had total spin on and not actual backspin, numbers are actually worse. Here is the actual spin, which averages 2786. Second spreadsheet is a 5 iron, averages over 1000 more backspin. Remember, the 50 degree wedge shots were using a short "Birtee" in order to rule out matt interference.

This makes no sense, there is no way I am spinning a 5 iron more than a relatively new CBX 50 degree wedge.

[preludesam]

Any chance you can spray the face with some deodorant and check the impact location and post the picture. Your launch angle is very high and it’s tough to create spin with low ball speed. Launch for a good strike on a 50 should be 25-30 degrees and ball speed always increases the potential for spin. Your posted data is feasible for a high strike.

Also are you using a premium ball? Anything with a urethane cover should be used.

I’m going to try and reproduce your conditions and see if I can get something similar. I’m using an X3 but I can show you a couple situations where this is possible.

[jpotas]

As I stated in a previous post, I used a tee per Morini's post to another forum member. This was to rule out any matt conditions. I also stated that I hit higher on the face than usual, I could feel that I was hitting higher. However, my spin numbers off my matt are exactly the same. My other post here shows a screenshot of a perfect (for me) 50 degree wedge shot, it carried 90 yards which is exactly what I would expect. That shot was the next shot after the 5 that I posted in the spreadsheet, however without the tee. This was certainly not hit high on the face, I could feel the difference. It displayed only 2200 backspin. Based on what I found online, the average male golfer hits a 50 -52 degree wedge 90-95 yards (carry), so this hit falls right in line with the average.

Also, as stated previously, I am using new Callaway Super Softs.

As a side note, I hit everything high. My 9 degree driver ball flight is typically 35 to 40 yards high. Just the nature of my swing.

I use foot spray all the time to check my strike locations. I work on my game several times a week, and play to around an 11-12 index so I do know my numbers very well. My gut just flat out tells me that something is wrong. I can post a pic the next time I practice.

I struggle to keep my drives under 2200 spin!! I see no way that my 50 degree is only giving me 2200 to 3200 backspin.

[jpotas]

As promised. Here is a pic of the ball contact and the results. 1900 back spin?????

[jpotas]

And here is the very next shot, even better ball contact, lower on the face. Better at 3184 backspin but still way too low.




[jpotas]

And finally my next shot, 7 iron. Crappy shot but look how much more spin.