Skytrak Inside vs Outside

[Ironstrokes]

I just checked my order history and it's actually this mat, maybe it's different than the monster mat.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004R5...rpL&ref=plSrch

I honestly dont remember if that is the same one or not, looks very similar though, so probably. Ill have to take a peak at the CCE at Costco at some point, cant really tell how different it is online, gotta feel it under my feet haha. But in the meantime ive been pretty happy with my monster mat, like how it really punishes me on those fat shots, keeps me working hard and havent noticed any distance loss. If I gained 10 or 15% more distance from changing mats Ill be hitting my 7 irons like 200 yards and dont think I can hit that far haha, so feel like the monster has been right on for well struck shots. Im open to suggestion and making things even better though so ill take a look at the CCE and at some point maybe do a buy, test and possible return depending.

[Chughes82]

It is the same. See my post above.

[v10king]

I had same squishiness with that mat. CCE is way firmer, feels like a real driving range mat vs that crappy monster mat.

[Ironstrokes]

I had same squishiness with that mat. CCE is way firmer, feels like a real driving range mat vs that crappy monster mat.

Yea I haven't tried the CCE mat yet so cant really say and I do believe you guys that it is firmer, but I like the sponginess of the monster a bit, when its too firm the club just bounces off and you don't get the feeling of hitting it fat as much. From what ive read in the past this mat does fine in punishing you for fat shots I believe, but if the monster is spongier it would seem that if I'm hitting a great solid shot off of that then I probably can do it on anything I would think, so kind of a different level of honing in on good contact possibly. Maybe one day ill try the CCE and be able to give a full review. Definitely gotta take the word of you guys that have had both for now though and pretty much everyone has said they like the CCE more. Just know I have not lost any distance on my monster, so those out there that think you will, that might not be true.

[N54TT]

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Super-Tee-Golf-Mat/dp/B008B8Q0BG/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458477077&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=ultimate+monsger+tee

this is the mat that is most similar to the CCE. It adds a foam backing which is what makes it more similar to the CCE....and is the one I use. It will punish your distances if you hit even a fraction behind the ball....but if you make ball contact first distances are spot on to what I see out on the course. I believe people that say the CCE is firmer and less squishy to stand on. I'm going to either replace mine with the CCE or a fiberbuilt system. I'm honestly leaning more towards the fiberbuilt.

[Chughes82]

I definitely agree that the monster mat will help improve ball contact because it punishes even slightly fat shots, as long as you work at eliminating fat shots. CCE does too. Clean shots with normal shallow divots haven't affected my distances and both have protected my elbows from repeated iron work. The squishy feel is really just a matter of preference. Some clean but deep divot shots on monster can be hard on the wrists as the club decelerates very quickly, but that happens to me a bit on the course too.

Very limited Trackman testing with cce compared to grass showed cce increased launch angle about two degrees and decreased spin by approximately 2000 rpm. It was not even close to a scientific study, so ymmv. A search for cce and trackman will find a summary of the test.

[v10king]

The monster mat slows your club head even when you get ball first. It's unrealistic as any real grass/turf would never do that to you. Also, it is so thin that I felt like my club was getting down through the mat to the cement almost in wedge strikes.

[N54TT]

The monster mat slows your club head even when you get ball first. It's unrealistic as any real grass/turf would never do that to you. Also, it is so thin that I felt like my club was getting down through the mat to the cement almost in wedge strikes.

The ultimate monster mat has the added foam backing and is not thin by any means. if you typically take deep divots something like the fiberbuilt might be better.

[v10king]

I don't take deep divots but still, there is minimal mat to compress on the cheap one. I have a CCE now and much prefer the density of the top and the foam under backing. If I had a monster mat with foam under it, I'd still hate it lol. Now the commercial driving range mats that all pro sells look pretty decent too.

[Ironstrokes]

The monster mat slows your club head even when you get ball first. It's unrealistic as any real grass/turf would never do that to you. Also, it is so thin that I felt like my club was getting down through the mat to the cement almost in wedge strikes.

Do you mean it slows the club too much after contact with the ball? Because a regular divot on real grass will slow the club a fraction too. Don't get how it would slow it down if you are hitting the ball first otherwise, isnt the ball already off the club by the time you hit the turf if you strike it right anyway? I personally don't feel any slow down on well hit shots and I take a normal divot size but different swings could do different thing I guess.

[v10king]

Do you mean it slows the club too much after contact with the ball? Because a regular divot on real grass will slow the club a fraction too. Don't get how it would slow it down if you are hitting the ball first otherwise, isnt the ball already off the club by the time you hit the turf if you strike it right anyway? I personally don't feel any slow down on well hit shots and I take a normal divot size but different swings could do different thing I guess.

It grabs my club and in general it's too much grab vs the CCE. That's my feeling, everyone is different. I wanted to add my opinion because it was pretty frustrating for me.

[Mark72]

Tip for those in cold climate or in hot climate with cool indoor temp from A/C - At first, my Skytrak distances seemed short when hitting in my garage. Some of this might be due to the cold temperature in my garage in winter vs. my normal distances outside in the summer. The chart below from a web search shows how carry distance (left column) decreases as the temperature (right) decreases. My clubs and balls sit in the garage all night, and then I quickly heat up the garage with two propane burners before hitting. I suspect the balls, clubs (even my CCE turf) are still pretty cold and stiff internally even after warming up the room. I started keeping an electric heater on in my garage all night, and that seems to make a difference. Hard to say this is the only reason for my distance increase, since I have also been practicing more and so my golf muscles may just be getting in better shape. But just another thing to keep in mind when evaluating distances.

226 -------105
224 ------- 95
222 ------- 85
220 ------- 75
216 ------- 65
214 ------- 55
205 ------- 45
196 ------- 35